The Madame Web Failure Thread (And the Success of Dune: Part 2 Thread)
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Trumptards should avoid the Dune movies.
The wokeness of Dune 1 & 2:
Everything Dune 2 Changes From the Original Novel
https://movieweb.com/dune-2-changes-from-novel-explained/
One of the most significant overhauls involves Princess Irulan (Florence Pugh), the daughter of Emperor Shaddam (Christopher Walken). Her role in the novel, where she watches her father get overthrown and reluctantly becomes engaged to Paul, the usurper, is confined almost entirely to the final chapter. Here, she's a fully-fledged character, appearing in several scenes as she gradually becomes aware of her father's secret deal with Baron Harkonnen to take down House Atreides and of the likely price he'll have to pay as his involvement becomes known throughout the galaxy. Additionally, her decision to marry Paul ultimately gives her much more agency; she willingly volunteers to become his bride to allow her family to maintain political power and influence.
But the most significant and impactful character expansions involve Chani (Zendaya), Paul's initial love interest and a Fremen. Whereas in the novel, the character was mostly a bystander to the action, Villeneuve makes her a much more direct participant in it, and it's mostly through her eyes that the story's tragedy becomes clear. Since she's established as a cynic and more skeptical of the Fremen belief system, she's more unwilling to accept Paul as a messiah for their tribe.
Additionally, her romantic relationship with Paul is also greatly expanded. While Herbert's novel mostly compresses their developing love within a time jump, Villeneuve wisely takes his time and lets us see Chani's gradual respect for Paul and the ways in which her love keeps him emotionally grounded. In fact, maybe the most gutting part of Paul's eventual transformation into the Kwisatz Haderach is how it drives a wedge into his relationship since Chani had rightfully warned him against choosing a path of bloodshed. In the final scene, when Paul decides to marry Irulan for political reasons, we see his betrayal through Chani's eyes and see how far he's fallen.
6ixStringJack, the woke version of Dune 2 has rudely added a conflict about adultery. Trumptards will have a problem understanding the seriousness of Dune's Paul betraying Chani because Trumptards don't care about Trump betraying his many wives. Trump covered that to the satisfaction of his followers by saying all his ex-wives are evil bitches and he has sexual needs that marriage doesn't fulfill, which is a frequent comment by actual divorced Trumptards. What is not to like about Trump? He cheats on his wives and taxes and his followers cheat on their wives and taxes.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
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Nope. That's not woke.
I'm so glad to hear that no Democrat voter has ever committed adultery or got a divorce. Good for you. 
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Dune: Part 2 gets $12 Million on Thursday preview night and a total of $32 Million+ projected after Friday night.
The $12 Million from Thursday night was far more than all 39 of the other movies shown on Thursday combined. There's only 20 films up for Friday's projections so far, but the $20 Million+ Dune made on Friday dwarfs all of them.
Bruce predicts just shy of $90 Million for opening weekend at The Numbers.
He doesn't list the production budget, but other sites online are claiming that it cost a stupid $190 Million to make.
Unless all the predictions everywhere are wrong, it will easily cover that and make money, but Hollywood really has a money problem. Dune: Part 2 won't even start making money for Warner Bros. until it clears $475 Million.
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Quote:The difference is that a decent Democrat would be ashamed while a Trumptard desires that a shameless, adulterous, tax-cheating criminal be President because Trump is a worse version of themselves.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nope. That's not woke.
I'm so glad to hear that no Democrat voter has ever committed adultery or got a divorce. Good for you.
How's Dune doing?
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Dune#tab=summary
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The difference is that a decent Democrat would be ashamed while a Trumptard desires that a shameless, adulterous, tax-cheating criminal be President because Trump is a worse version of themselves.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nope. That's not woke.
I'm so glad to hear that no Democrat voter has ever committed adultery or got a divorce. Good for you.
Oh, come off it. I've got to hear from you everyday about how Democrats don't ever lie, don't ever cheat, don't ever get divorced, never succumb to any vices, never get sick, yada yada yada...
You wouldn't be ashamed of anything. You know no shame. I don't give one single shit that Trump cheated on his wives or got divorces from them. Neither do you. I'm not voting for Trump for Father or Husband of the Year. You didn't vote for Biden for Father or Husband of the Year either.
Keep your fucking politics out of the cinema board and in the RWED where they belong.
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How's Dune doing?
I already listed in detail how Dune is doing in the post before your most recent idiocy.
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Variety: Box Office: ‘Dune: Part Two’ Rides to Impressive $32 Million Opening Day
https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/dune-2-opening-day-box-office
-1235927316/
Yeah... But that's not exactly true though, is it? I have to give points to Variety for not waiting beyond the first paragraph of the article to point out that Part 2 made $12 Million of that in Thursday previews (and events that even predate Thursday), but why do they continue to put out misleading headlines when they know they're not the truth.
Honestly, when I saw that the Friday number was only $32.6 Million this morning it came to me as a warning sign that Part 2 is not going to have the banner weekend that pretty much everyone unanimously agreed that it would. $20.6 Million on Friday is not great, coming off a $12 Million Preview night. Saturday's numbers are almost universally higher than Sunday's, so in order to get the $89 Million that Bruce predicted (or the flat $90 Million that many sites predicted), it's going to have to make something like $32 Million on Saturday alone. While it's true that Saturday's numbers are almost universally higher than Friday's numbers when you remove Preview Thursday numbers, I have some serious doubts about it grossing $12 Million more on Saturday than it did on Friday.
It would appear that with the benefit of Friday's Projections that Bruce did not have when making his $89 Million prediction, The Wrap agrees with me.
‘Dune: Part Two’ Revives Box Office With $75 Million-Plus Opening Weekend
https://www.thewrap.com/dune-part-two-revives-box-office-with-75-milli
on-plus-opening-weekend/
I think they're low-balling it with $75 Million (Plus) and playing The Price is Right here. My range with the data we have now would be probably $78 to $81 Million. Add in probably another $1.5 Million for Warner Bros. lowballing the projections once late Monday comes and they reconcile the actual sales.
If I was going to put an exact figure on it, I think $81 Million is a good number once we have the exact figures on Monday.
So that's officially my guess. Any number between $81,000,000 and $81,999,999 for opening weekend.
This would put it at the low end of many of the recent predictions for Dune: Part 2's opening weekend.
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“When Frank Herbert wrote Dune and when the book came out, he felt that the readers misunderstood him,” Villeneuve explained at a recent post-screening talkback attended by The A.V. Club. “People saw Dune as a celebration of Paul Atreides, but for him he wanted the book to be a warning regarding messianic figures.” (6ix, Trump is a fake Messiah. His ultimate goals are unrighteous.)
Although he begins the story with good intentions — and here’s the spoiler warning for plot points of Dune and follow-up novel Dune: Messiah — Paul (Timothée Chalamet) ends up embarking on a holy war in his name that will devastate the universe and leave billions of corpses behind. Still, the original story is told in a way that makes it easy for readers to fall into the dangerous mindset that Paul’s mission is righteous and good, as many of the novel’s characters do as well. “In order to correct that perception, [Herbert] wrote Dune: Messiah that is almost like an epilogue,” Villeneuve went on to explain.
While the director has said he would adapt that novel into a potential third movie, he wanted to fight that interpretation earlier in his own franchise. “In my adaptation, specifically in Part Two, I’m trying to be faithful to the book, but more I’m trying to be faithful to Frank Herbert’s wishes and desires,” he said. To do that, he expanded and empowered the role played by Zendaya’s character Chani, a Fremen warrior who falls in love with Paul before he falls deeper into his destiny.
“Chani, in the second part of the book, kind of disappeared in Paul’s shadows. The character becomes less interesting,” Villeneuve continued. “But I thought there was a strong opportunity there to create a character there who would give us a new perspective on Paul, in order to get closer to Frank Herbert’s intentions.” It works. Through Chani’s eyes, we see Paul for who he truly is: a man as power-hungry as the rest of them. (As power-hungry as Trump.)
https://www.avclub.com/denis-villeneuve-dune-part-two-zendaya-chani-he
rbert-1851297779
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Variety: Box Office: ‘Dune: Part Two’ Rides to Impressive $32 Million Opening Day
https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/dune-2-opening-day-box-office
-1235927316/
Yeah... But that's not exactly true though, is it? I have to give points to Variety for not waiting beyond the first paragraph of the article to point out that Part 2 made $12 Million of that in Thursday previews (and events that even predate Thursday), but why do they continue to put out misleading headlines when they know they're not the truth.
Honestly, when I saw that the Friday number was only $32.6 Million this morning it came to me as a warning sign that Part 2 is not going to have the banner weekend that pretty much everyone unanimously agreed that it would. $20.6 Million on Friday is not great, coming off a $12 Million Preview night. Saturday's numbers are almost universally higher than Sunday's, so in order to get the $89 Million that Bruce predicted (or the flat $90 Million that many sites predicted), it's going to have to make something like $32 Million on Saturday alone. While it's true that Saturday's numbers are almost universally higher than Friday's numbers when you remove Preview Thursday numbers, I have some serious doubts about it grossing $12 Million more on Saturday than it did on Friday.
It would appear that with the benefit of Friday's Projections that Bruce did not have when making his $89 Million prediction, The Wrap agrees with me.
‘Dune: Part Two’ Revives Box Office With $75 Million-Plus Opening Weekend
https://www.thewrap.com/dune-part-two-revives-box-office-with-75-milli
on-plus-opening-weekend/
I think they're low-balling it with $75 Million (Plus) and playing The Price is Right here. My range with the data we have now would be probably $78 to $81 Million. Add in probably another $1.5 Million for Warner Bros. lowballing the projections once late Monday comes and they reconcile the actual sales.
If I was going to put an exact figure on it, I think $81 Million is a good number once we have the exact figures on Monday.
So that's officially my guess. Any number between $81,000,000 and $81,999,999 for opening weekend.
This would put it at the low end of many of the recent predictions for Dune: Part 2's opening weekend.
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Bruce doesn't usually do an update to any of his predictions on Saturday, but he did today.
His revised prediction is now between $75.8 Million and $84.4 Million, with the model giving an exact figure of $79,391,466.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/256360830-Saturday-update-Dune-shooti
ng-for-80-million-debut-after-32-2-million-opening-day
I don't need computer generated models to come up with my numbers.
My prediction of $81,000,000 to $81,999,999 stands. I'm skewing higher than the middle of Bruce's range because I'm also factoring in the fact that studios are extremely likely to lowball their projections on opening weekend. The only time this didn't happen last year was a few occasions when Disney highballed their predictions because of embarrassing flops, which I also predicted they would do.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (January 28th):
Girl Boss movies will fail. Comic Book Movies will fail.
There doesn't appear to be a whole lot of either in 2024, but this one fits both molds for failure.
Sorry SONY, but I'm betting on less than Morbius numbers on this one.
I didn't think that Madame Web was going to make this THAT easy on me.
$80 Million worldwide in 17 days, and only $800k on its 3rd Friday night.
As bad as Morbius was and as bad as Morbius performed, it still pulled in a worldwide box office of $162 Million.
Although the Domestic/International was basically a dead heat for the Madame after the first weekend, the International box office pulled ahead by about $5 Million on Weekend 2. I expect this gap to widen further going forward, but probably not too much. I think this movie is nearing the end of its run.
The only thing to do now is see if it can even crack $100 Million.
Depending on how you look at it, this may be a bigger flop than 2004's Catwoman. That movie pulled in $82,078,046 worldwide, which would be $134,008,813 today. A figure that Madame Web will never come close to touching.
But Catwoman did cost $100,000,000 to make, which would be $163,269,985 in 2024. That's twice the production budget as Madame Web allegedly cost.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (Around Noon, March 2nd):
Variety: Box Office: ‘Dune: Part Two’ Rides to Impressive $32 Million Opening Day
https://variety.com/2024/film/box-office/dune-2-opening-day-box-office
-1235927316/
Yeah... But that's not exactly true though, is it? I have to give points to Variety for not waiting beyond the first paragraph of the article to point out that Part 2 made $12 Million of that in Thursday previews (and events that even predate Thursday), but why do they continue to put out misleading headlines when they know they're not the truth.
Honestly, when I saw that the Friday number was only $32.6 Million this morning it came to me as a warning sign that Part 2 is not going to have the banner weekend that pretty much everyone unanimously agreed that it would. $20.6 Million on Friday is not great, coming off a $12 Million Preview night. Saturday's numbers are almost universally higher than Sunday's, so in order to get the $89 Million that Bruce predicted (or the flat $90 Million that many sites predicted), it's going to have to make something like $32 Million on Saturday alone. While it's true that Saturday's numbers are almost universally higher than Friday's numbers when you remove Preview Thursday numbers, I have some serious doubts about it grossing $12 Million more on Saturday than it did on Friday.
It would appear that with the benefit of Friday's Projections that Bruce did not have when making his $89 Million prediction, The Wrap agrees with me.
‘Dune: Part Two’ Revives Box Office With $75 Million-Plus Opening Weekend
https://www.thewrap.com/dune-part-two-revives-box-office-with-75-milli
on-plus-opening-weekend/
I think they're low-balling it with $75 Million (Plus) and playing The Price is Right here. My range with the data we have now would be probably $78 to $81 Million. Add in probably another $1.5 Million for Warner Bros. lowballing the projections once late Monday comes and they reconcile the actual sales.
If I was going to put an exact figure on it, I think $81 Million is a good number once we have the exact figures on Monday.
So that's officially my guess. Any number between $81,000,000 and $81,999,999 for opening weekend.
This would put it at the low end of many of the recent predictions for Dune: Part 2's opening weekend.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (Just before Midnight, March 2nd):
Bruce doesn't usually do an update to any of his predictions on Saturday, but he did today.
His revised prediction is now between $75.8 Million and $84.4 Million, with the model giving an exact figure of $79,391,466.
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/256360830-Saturday-update-Dune-shooti
ng-for-80-million-debut-after-32-2-million-opening-day
I don't need computer generated models to come up with my numbers.
My prediction of $81,000,000 to $81,999,999 stands. I'm skewing higher than the middle of Bruce's range because I'm also factoring in the fact that studios are extremely likely to lowball their projections on opening weekend. The only time this didn't happen last year was a few occasions when Disney highballed their predictions because of embarrassing flops, which I also predicted they would do.
Bruce must REALLY be interested in the success of Dune: Part 2. He just wrote another article about it today after the studio projections for the weekend came in.
Weekend projections: Dune hits pay dirt with $81.5-million debut
https://www.the-numbers.com/news/256370830-Weekend-projections-Dune-hi
ts-pay-dirt-with-81-5-million-debut
$81.5 Million, huh?
You mean EXACTLY in the middle of my range that I came up with on intuition that didn't require any computer models.
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