The Madame Web Failure Thread (And the Success of Dune: Part 2 Thread)
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 01:07
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Bruce says Madame Web is going to gross $6.59 Million this weekend for a 57% drop.
I call bullshit.
The Marvels fell 74% on the 2nd weekend. Granted, The Marvels grossed as much on its 2nd weekend as Madame Web did in its first weekend, so it doesn't need to do a whole lot of business not to fall as far. The Marvels fell 50% in its 3rd weekend. I'm going to split the difference and call it a 62% drop for Madame Web's second weekend, and say it doesn't clear $6 Million.
DEADLINE (Today): https://deadline.com/2024/02/box-office-bob-marley-one-love-demon-slay
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Right now, Spider-Man clairvoyant Madame Web is showing a -64% second frame drop (which is bad though not as atrocious as Marvels -78% second weekend freefall or Sony/Marvel’s Morbius‘ -74%) with an estimated $5.56M in 4th place at 4,013 theaters after a $1.5M Friday. She’ll stand at $35M by Sunday. Still, both Marvels and Morbius look like crowdpleasers next to Madame Web respectively at $84.5M and $73.8M domestic finals.
Yup. $5.56 Million estimated for Deadline.
I'm surprised that Deadline is throwing The Marvels under the bus to try to protect Madame Web here though...
The Marvels -78% drop on its second weekend was due in part to the fact that it lumped in Thursday night previews into the 3-Day weekend as is what usually happens when a movie isn't released on a weird day like Madame web was. Thursday wasn't a preview night for Madame Web since it was released on Valentine's Day Wednesday, so Thursday's numbers were not included in the 3-Day Box office.
We here know this, after JSF figured that out sometime in mid-2023, but your average Deadline reader is not aware of this. I'd argue unless you were in the industry or tracked it like Bruce does, the chances that you would know this are almost zero percent.
The Marvels made $6.6 Million on Preview Thursday, so if you don't include that, it dropped -74% compared to Madame Web's -64% drop.
It still did "better" than The Marvels did by that singular metric, but again... The Marvels grossed $39.5 Million on opening weekend without Preview Thursday included to Madame Web's $15.3 Million. To try and claim now that Madame Web isn't doing worse than The Marvels did is extremely disingenuous on the part of Deadline.
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Reality is just about exactly what I said it would be. I said it wouldn't clear $6 Million.
It made $5,915,452, for a 61% drop.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Madame-Web-(2024)#tab=box-office
A lot of those international numbers already came in for the weekend too, and it's only at $61 Million worldwide. At this point, Madame Web might not even make it's fake $80 Million production budget.
It actually cost $100 to $120 Million.
We're living in Bidenflationland now. I doubt anybody involved in this is going to find another job in Hollywood.
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Wow... Madame Web got a huge international bump since that last post. When it was only at $61 Million worldwide with what looked to be a decent chunk of the international numbers in, fast forward a day or two and it's already up to $78 Million Worldwide. Apparently the international appetite for this was greater than here in the states and hasn't dropped off as much. It's now $42 Million international vs. $35.8 Million US.
It won't have a problem hitting $80 Million now. Grossing only around $400k on Monday, unless it has a monster Cheap Seat Tuesday, it won't do that before Friday night, but even with Dune Part 2 coming out this weekend it will hit $80 Million by Sunday.
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Did not have a monster Tuesday. Will not cross $80 Million before the weekend.
My guess it will be just under $79.3 Million going into Friday.
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Nah... Dune has a good shot of dethroning all of them, and by summer the Chinese movies will be out of the top 10.
https://rlsbb.ru/dune-part-two-english-hdcam-1080p-will1869/
Pirates have a plan to make money --> "Please be advised this upload has ads cut or watermarked into the video."
Pirates competing to copy Dune 2:
https://1337x.to/torrent/6008039/Dune-Part-Two-2024-1080p-HQCAM-x264-A
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Hollywood's ticket sales for Dune 2 compared to Dune 1 compared to Dune (1984)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Dune#tab=summary
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Dune: Part Two
As previously highlighted, the 2021 adaptation was a critical and commercial success with $108.9 million domestically and $433.8 million worldwide despite a simultaneous streaming release during the early phases of pandemic recovery, with Covid still a significant concern among some audiences.
Dune: Part Two‘s pre-sales have dwarfed Part One‘s through the same point before release by over 116 percent according to various models. Drivers include the film’s stellar reviews (97 percent from 182 Rotten Tomatoes critics as of Wednesday morning), goodwill gleaned from its predecessor, pent-up demand for a theatrical event film, and the rising star power of Timothée Chalamet and Zendaya, who topline the film alongside a strong ensemble cast.
Their 3-Day Weekend Forecast: $80,900,000
If they're not wrong and the international audience comes out strong for Part 2 like they did Part One, Dune 2 is going to easily take the top spot from all the Chinese flicks even without money from you Communists and the pink haired potbelly goblins on Twitter.
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Quote:If you are thrilled by bald albinos with no eyebrows knife-fighting in the sand, Dune 2 is your movie.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Their 3-Day Weekend Forecast: $80,900,000
If they're not wrong and the international audience comes out strong for Part 2 like they did Part One, Dune 2 is going to easily take the top spot from all the Chinese flicks even without money from you Communists and the pink haired potbelly goblins on Twitter.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The Sterile Spectacle of “Dune: Part Two”
By Justin Chang | February 27, 2024
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/11/dune-part-two-movie-revi
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Having been delayed, amid the recent Hollywood strikes, from its original release date, in the fall of 2023, “Dune: Part Two” is understandably eager to get going. It’s off before we’ve even glimpsed the Warner Bros. logo, whose famous water tower is a helpful reminder to hydrate: we’ve got a long, dust-choked ride ahead. While the screen is black, a heavily distorted voice hisses something that we recognize as words only by the grace of subtitles: “Power over Spice is power over all.” The rare newbie to the Dune-iverse may be confused: is this a story of cumin bondage? But the meaning will be clear enough to readers of Frank Herbert’s 1965 science-fiction colossus or to those who have watched the 2021 adaptation, “Dune: Part One.”
That picture—directed, like this one, by Denis Villeneuve—dropped us into an aggressively beige and brutalist version of Herbert’s cosmos and set in motion a saga of feudal conquest and environmental ruin. At the heart of the plot is the substance known as spice, capable of prolonging life, inducing prophetic visions, and enabling interstellar travel. (It’s good for any kind of trip.) Spice has long triggered fights and conspiracies among those seeking to control supply, because it exists only on Arrakis, a desert planet plagued by giant sandworms.
“Dune: Part Two” opens where the previous movie ended, at the conclusion of an especially cutthroat game of thrones. It’s still the year 10191, and the bald-headed baddies of House Harkonnen, having vanquished the nobler, hairier lords of House Atreides, are now running Arrakis and its spice-mining operations. But hope springs anew in the desert, where the hero of the tale—Paul Atreides (Timothée Chalamet), son of the tragically slain Duke Leto Atreides—has gone full T. E. Lawrence, taking refuge with blue-eyed, Bedouin-like desert dwellers known as the Fremen.
Paul—fifteen in Herbert’s book—possesses extraordinary mental acuity, precocious fighting skills, luxurious windswept locks, and, as things proceed, more epithets than anyone under the age of twenty should be saddled with: Mahdi, Muad’Dib, Usul, Lisan al-Gaib, Kwisatz Haderach. You’ve heard of messiah complexes, but Paul’s case is uniquely burdensome. A faction of Fremen, led by the wry and avuncular Stilgar (a wonderful Javier Bardem), believes that Paul will lead their people to triumph over their Harkonnen oppressors. Paul’s noble mother, Lady Jessica (Rebecca Ferguson, all fire and steel), belongs to a shadowy religious sisterhood, the Bene Gesserit, with its own twisted designs on her son. (To add a nativity story to this heady theological brew, Lady Jessica is pregnant, and Villeneuve, perhaps with a nod to Stanley Kubrick, grants us a womb with a view.)
Is the prophecy true? Does it even matter, so long as Paul can weaponize his worshipful following in the pursuit of personal vengeance? Chani (Zendaya), the fierce and beautiful warrior who haunted his dreams in the first film, easily captures his heart in this one, and she tosses cold water—O.K., a drop of spittle—on his delusions of divine grandeur. Yet Zendaya, an actor of tremulous, often wordless nuance, also shows us the mounting alarm behind Chani’s skepticism. “Fear is the mind-killer,” Herbert’s text warns, and faith may be deadlier still.
Paul harbors anxieties of his own. Even as the character gains in physical confidence and emotional stature, the swift and spindly Chalamet never fully sheds his boyish vulnerability. He and Zendaya get some brief moments of dunetop canoodling; were Villeneuve more of a sensualist, or Paul a bit more adventurous, we could be watching “Call Muad’Dib by Your Name.” Ultimately, though, he’s out to make war, not love. More than once, we behold his fiery visions of an apocalypse—a “holy war”—that may come to pass if he ascends. Herbert, steeping his Fremen mythology in details from Arab culture and Muslim precepts, used
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Originally posted by second:Quote:If you are thrilled by bald albinos with no eyebrows knife-fighting in the sand, Dune 2 is your movie.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Their 3-Day Weekend Forecast: $80,900,000
If they're not wrong and the international audience comes out strong for Part 2 like they did Part One, Dune 2 is going to easily take the top spot from all the Chinese flicks even without money from you Communists and the pink haired potbelly goblins on Twitter.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I'm not going to watch it. I have no interest. The 80's movie was terrible. I never read the book. The Dune world does nothing for me. I put it up there with Blade Runner, which is another property that has a lot of fans but never did anything for me. I never saw that remake either.
This was not my point and you know it.
Piracy won't hurt this movie. People who are downloading it were never going to pay to see it in the first place.
It should easily take 1st place at the worldwide box office above the 4 Chinese films by the time it's out of the box office. It will be the first of many, and by mid-summer there won't be any Chinese flicks in the top 10.
That's all I'm saying. Nothing more, nothing less.
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