The Madame Web Failure Thread (And the Success of Dune: Part 2 Thread)
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 01:07
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Looks like Bruce is showing $82.5 Million on the Weekend page now, but it's still just a projection. WB must have upped their projection another million since yesterday without having firm numbers. They must be pretty confident to do that. It will probably be above my $82 to $83.25 million now. Likely between $83 and $84.5 Million when the actual numbers are put up.
They've also upped their international projection to $99.820 Million from only $97 Million yesterday as well, so this thing actually did do more than $100 Million internationally. Not bad, but still well below the $120 to $150 Million I was hearing people predict before the weekend.
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Weird... I guess not.
I don't know why the studio upped its projection by $1 Million a day later when the final numbers came out and were only $5,391 above that.
So my original prediction that the studio lowballed the numbers and it would actually make between $82 Million and $83.25 Million once the real numbers was correct, with $82.505 Million in the bank domestically.
I also don't know why they upped the projections for the international a day later either from $97 Million to $99.820 Million either. That one is especially strange since it didn't even reach that and it only made $99.783 Million.
So it's made just over $182 Million on opening weekend worldwide.
The production budget was $190 Million (which Bruce now shows on The-Numbers).
I know everybody online is celebrating this as a big win, but it's really not. It only made just shy of 96% of its production budget back on opening weekend. If memory serves, it was pretty much a coin flip that the movie ended up making the studio money if it fell between 80% and 99% of the production budget on opening weekend in 2023.
If this one is front loaded with fans, which I've heard some speculation that it is, that may not bode well for its prospects going forward.
The top movie in the 2024 top list worldwide right now is YOLO, which added about another $50 Million to its total since Bruce's last update and now sits at $455 Million. That's just $20 Million shy of what Dune: Part 2 needs to break even. If Bruce is updating the Chinese movies every week and that $50+ million is just from last week alone, there's a good chance it's going to pretty easily crack $500 Million before it's out of theaters.
Unless word of mouth is really great and Dp2 has really good legs, it's probably not going to take the top spot and it could possibly struggle to break even for Warner Bros.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:The difference is that a decent Democrat would be ashamed while a Trumptard desires that a shameless, adulterous, tax-cheating criminal be President because Trump is a worse version of themselves.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Nope. That's not woke.
I'm so glad to hear that no Democrat voter has ever committed adultery or got a divorce. Good for you.
Oh, come off it. I've got to hear from you everyday about how Democrats don't ever lie, don't ever cheat, don't ever get divorced, never succumb to any vices, never get sick, yada yada yada...
You wouldn't be ashamed of anything. You know no shame. I don't give one single shit that Trump cheated on his wives or got divorces from them. Neither do you. I'm not voting for Trump for Father or Husband of the Year. You didn't vote for Biden for Father or Husband of the Year either.
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How's Dune doing?
I already listed in detail how Dune is doing in the post before your most recent idiocy.
6ix, the problem with Trumptards is they do NOT correct their mistakes. Instead, they deny a mistake was made. I'll give you an example: Every court decision against Trump will inevitably cause his Trumptards to squawk that he didn't rape that woman, he didn't cheat on his taxes, he didn't tell Trumptards to stop Congress from functioning on January 6th while it was certifying Electoral College ballots, etc. How Trumptards react to Trump's misdeeds is how Trumptards react to their own misdeeds.
6ix, your misdeed is wasting your time counting Hollywood's money when you should be out in the world working and counting your own money rather than piddling around in your basement, obsessed with caulking and painting at midnight:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=65350&mid=11889
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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The way I choose to use my time is mine and none of your fucking business.
You do you.
Trump, election voting and the use of my time have nothing to do with Madame Web, Dune: Part 2 or Cinema.
Keep your bullshit in the RWED, psychopath.
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Quote:I'm guessing that if you see Dune 2 you will misunderstand what is obvious:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The way I choose to use my time is mine and none of your fucking business.
You do you.
Trump, election voting and the use of my time have nothing to do with Madame Web, Dune: Part 2 or Cinema.
Keep your bullshit in the RWED, psychopath.
Dune’s Paul Atreides Is Not The Good Guy
If you really want proof that this is the ‘point’ of Dune, if we can even distill any novel down to one single throughline, just look to interviews with the author himself.
“It began with a concept: to do a long novel about the messianic convulsions which periodically inflict themselves on human societies,” Frank Herbert is quoted as saying in Tim O’Reilly’s biography. “I had this idea that superheros were disastrous for humans.”
Herbert reiterates the point in the introduction to his short story collection, Eye: “Dune was aimed at this whole idea of the infallible leader because my view of history says that mistakes made by a leader (or made in a leader's name) are amplified by the numbers who follow without question.”
https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/reviews/dune-s-paul-atreides-is-not-t
he-good-guy/ar-BB1jltIw
Dune 1 and 2 warn you about leaders such as Trump:
Donald Trump depicted as superhero, rock star and George Washington
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/donald-trump-depicted-superhero-
rock-29753717
The History of Trump Pretending to Be Superman -- Lex Luthor is based on Trump, but that hasn’t kept him from repeatedly posing as the Man of Steel.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/history-donald-trump-superman.
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https://www.google.com/search?q=picture+of+trump+as+superhero
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I'm guessing that if you see Dune 2
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The way I choose to use my time is mine and none of your fucking business.
You do you.
Trump, election voting and the use of my time have nothing to do with Madame Web, Dune: Part 2 or Cinema.
Keep your bullshit in the RWED, psychopath.
I thought I was very clear. I will not see Dune: Part 2.
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Quote:You will see it one day on TV for free. Then you will be amazed at the complex bookkeeping necessary to inflate the cost to $190,000,000. You will realize the Dune producers committed a crime equivalent to robbing Fort Knox. Somebody should make a movie about stealing money while making a movie.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I thought I was very clear. I will not see Dune: Part 2.
https://www.the-numbers.com/movies/franchise/Dune#tab=summary
This is how movie producers convince their financial backers that the money is creating great art rather than being stolen in a great crime:
21 "Dune 2" Details And Easter Eggs That Are Super Clever, But You Might've Missed Them
Gurney Halleck playing a nine-stringed guitar in his first scene in Dune: Part Two is a nod to his character from Frank Herbert's original book. There are MASSIVE spoilers ahead for Dune, Dune: Part Two, and Frank Herbert's Dune.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/noradominick/dune-part-two-details-easter-egg
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You will see it one day on TV for free.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I thought I was very clear. I will not see Dune: Part 2.
I have a TV. I don't watch the TV though. In fact, I never even got an HD antenna, so it's pretty much a big computer monitor.
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From the other Dune thread...
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=63866
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Waiting for Dune 3? 21 Years Ago, James McAvoy Made a Perfect TV Version
Need to know what happens next after Dune 2? A fantastic adaptation of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune already exists.
By Ryan Britt | March 7, 2024
https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/dune-3-james-mcavoy-frank-herbert-childre
n-of-dune/
If the shocking ending of Dune: Part Two left you wanting more, you can actually watch Dune: Part Three right now. Kind of.
Although Denis Villeneuve hasn’t fully committed to a movie adaptation of Dune Messiah, there is an often overlooked filmed version of this Dune sequel out there right now. This isn’t a bootleg or a fan film either, but The Sci-Fi Channel’s excellent Frank Herbert’s Children of Dune miniseries. This very real adaptation of Dune Messiah even stars several major Hollywood stars, including James McAvoy and Susan Sarandon, as well as Star Trek legend Alice “The Borg Queen” Krige.
If you’ve slept on this particular Dune sequel, now is possibly the best time to watch it. Here’s what to know about Frank Herbert’s Children of Dune, why it’s great, and how to watch it.
What is Frank Herbert’s Children of Dune?
On March 16, 2003, six months before the debut of the reboot Battlestar Galactica, the Sci-Fi Channel (yes, this was before it changed to “SyFy”) dropped a killer miniseries called Frank Herbert’s Children of Dune. But don’t let the title fool you. Because this three-part miniseries actually adapted two of Herbert’s books, Dune Messiah and Children of Dune, over the course of three episodes. Each part is about 90 minutes long, and the first episode, “Messiah,” adapts the totality of Dune Messiah, fairly faithfully. It also features the return of (most) of the cast from the 2000 smash-hit miniseries Frank Herbert’s Dune.
In fact, in the year 2000, the miniseries version of Dune, written and directed by John Harrison, was the most successful Sci-Fi Channel original at that point. It starred Alec Newman as Paul Atreides, Julie Cox as Irulan, Saskia Reeves as Lady Jessica, Barbora Kodetová as Chani, William Hurt as Duke Leto, and Ian McNeice (Doctor Who’s future Churchill!) as Baron Harkonnen. To date, it remains, without a doubt the most faithful adaption of the first Dune novel, which includes two pivotal plot points both David Lynch and Denis Villeneuve left out of their films: the banquet scene toward the start of the book, and the death of Chani and Paul’s first child, Leto II the Elder. (In the other Dune adaptations, this baby doesn’t even exist!)
More at https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/dune-3-james-mcavoy-frank-herbert-childre
n-of-dune/
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm sure it's great. Other SyFy classics...
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Originally posted by second:
These movies have zero ticket sales at The Numbers, but they are profitable because the budget is around the same size as a High School play.
Sharknado
https://www.the-numbers.com/custom-search?searchterm=Sharknado
Cinedigm (Sharknado 2, Sharknado 5: Global Swarming) has released 757 movies with ticket sales of $49,332,674 and it was still in business as of 2023. No movies are listed yet for 2024.
https://www.the-numbers.com/home-market/distributor/Cinedigm
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You won't see any argument from me there. Hollywood budgets (including Dune: Part 2's budget) are stupid.
The Si-Fi Channel's continuation of the story might be something worth watching in the event that Part 2 does so bad that the studio pulls the plug on future installments, but my advice to anybody who paid for and enjoyed the 2 new movies would be to wait until the 3rd one comes out before tainting their brains with a low-budget 2003 rendition of the rest of the story. We tend to
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Quote:These numbers are genius as far as the producers' well-being is concerned once you realize that the producers are stealing most of the money by tricky bookkeeping and kickbacks from subcontractors. The credits at the end of the movies show dozens of special effects subcontractors, each getting squeezed by the producers.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You won't see any argument from me there. Hollywood budgets (including Dune: Part 2's budget) are stupid.
Is Hollywood accounting legal?
https://www.google.com/search?q=is+hollywood+accounting+legal
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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