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***** Sound of Freedom

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Friday, September 1, 2023 11:10 AM

I'm not counting any of the numbers until Bruce posts them.

It will be interesting to see if they get the same numbers in the end or not. I'm not very impressed with how different their numbers are right now.


You're backwards on your NZ assessment. It made $275,871 on opening weekend. It now only has $266,958.

I've already posted about all of this 2 days ago.

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 1:50 AM

Thursday's Numbers:

1. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,359% (+0%)
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,307% (+0%)
4. Talk to Me - 1,267% (+89%)
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% (+0%)
6. Barbie - 928% (+1%)

SoF needs 53% to beat SMB. (About $8 Million)
SoF needs 202% to beat M3GAN. (About $29 Million)
SoF is 40% above Talk to Me.
SoF is 379% above Barbie.

SoF's numbers aren't up today, but it doesn't matter. It's not going to get another percentage bump this week until Sunday night if it even gets one Domestically. It likely made $155-$160k on Thursday, which will put it at roughly $825k away from the next percentage bump (and I did predict that SoF will make $800-850k this weekend, so it probably should be able to manage that). No new international news for SoF today.

Talk to Me's numbers came in. Looks like it got an international update as well. It did about 13% better than I predicted it would Monday through Wednesday and got that 22% Domestic bump I knew it would, but as you can see above it got a whopping 89% bump since last time numbers were updated, which must be from a few additional million in International numbers. It is now only 40% behind Sound of Freedom and unless Bruce posts some huge international numbers for SoF this weekend it will take 3rd place from SoF with no real signs of slowing down too hard with all that international help.

On Thursday, for the first time since Barbie was released, it made less than 1% of its production budget domestically with only $1.3 Million.

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 3:41 AM

ETA: dangit, I was in a hurry, and assumed you had posted correct digits. But you had transposed 2 digits. I am now editing to correct this.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm not counting any of the numbers until Bruce posts them.

It will be interesting to see if they get the same numbers in the end or not. I'm not very impressed with how different their numbers are right now.


You're backwards on your NZ assessment.

Incorrect.
Quote:

It made $275,871 $257,871 on opening weekend.
Correct. As reported on 28 August.
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It now only has $266,958.
Correct. As reported on 28 August.
At the end of the weekend, by 27 August, it had made this much in total.
Quote:



I've already posted about all of this 2 days ago.

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 9:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm not counting any of the numbers until Bruce posts them.

It will be interesting to see if they get the same numbers in the end or not. I'm not very impressed with how different their numbers are right now.


You're backwards on your NZ assessment.

Incorrect.
Quote:

It made $275,871 on opening weekend.
Correct. As reported on 28 August.
Quote:

It now only has $266,958.
Correct. As reported on 28 August.
At the end of the weekend, by 27 August, it had made this much in total.
Quote:



I've already posted about all of this 2 days ago.

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I dunno man. I think you're looking at numbers wrong and/or misremembering things.

I can't prove that since the international numbers are so shit.

NZ isn't coming anywhere close to $3 Million when all is said and done.

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm not counting any of the numbers until Bruce posts them.

It will be interesting to see if they get the same numbers in the end or not. I'm not very impressed with how different their numbers are right now.


You're backwards on your NZ assessment.

Incorrect.
Quote:

It made $275,871 on opening weekend.
Correct. As reported on 28 August.
Quote:

It now only has $266,958.
Correct. As reported on 28 August.
At the end of the weekend, by 27 August, it had made this much in total.
Quote:



I've already posted about all of this 2 days ago.

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Ohhhhhh.... Right. Yeah. My bad.

Now I remember.


It had something small for New Zealand,like $5 or $6k up there at first, then it had the 266,958 total gross figure up the next week when it put the $257,871 Opening Weekend figure up.

Freakin' international accounting sucks.


Still though... NZ isn't coming anywhere close to $3 Million when all is said and done.


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Saturday, September 2, 2023 11:00 PM

Friday's Numbers:

1. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,359% (+0%)
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,307% (+0%)
4. Talk to Me - 1,267% (+0%)
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% (+0%)
6. Barbie - 930% (+2%)

SoF needs 53% to beat SMB. (About $8 Million)
SoF needs 202% to beat M3GAN. (About $29 Million)
SoF is 40% above Talk to Me.
SoF is 377% above Barbie.

Still no numbers for SoF on Thursday or Friday yet. And it still doesn't matter. We won't know anything until the real numbers are up through Sunday whether SoF starts next week with a huge advantage in the rounding by coming up short for a percentage bump on Sunday, or it gets that percentage bump now and starts next week off with a huge deficit. It's also too early to predict whether or not it even gets a Domestic bump next week. It's a coin toss now.

No Domestic bump for Talk To Me on Friday. It's about $348k shy of the next bump of 22%, which it will get tonight. It won't get another one until Monday or Tuesday Domestic. It may or may not see an International bump on Monday when the weekend numbers are reconciled after it got that massive International bump early yesterday.

With only $5k on a Friday night, we will never see another bump for Insidious for Domestic numbers. Unlike the blockbusters that bounce all over the place late in the run, the international numbers for Insidious have stayed put for weeks. I'll have to keep an eye on it though because I suspect that there will be some surprises and extra money Internationally for that one like there was for M3GAN long after it left the Box Office.

Barbie gets a 2% Friday night bump. It will probably remain in theaters well into October, but the days of huge gains for this one are over as well. Weekly International bumps won't be huge either, somewhere in the realm of 8%-10% this week and 50-60% of that next week. It will beat SMB for the top grossing flick Worldwide by next weekend though, however it remains to be seen if it will join the 1,000% Club for Worldwide Gross vs. Production Budget. It still needs $102 Million to do that, and I don't think that's in the cards.

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Saturday, September 2, 2023 11:12 PM

Oh... and I forgot to mention that this is the 2nd week in a row that Bruce doesn't have any theater counts for Sound of Freedom in his weekly article on the issue.

It lost 550 theaters last week, dropping to 1,602 from 2,152. It probably lost another 200 to 600 this weekend. My guess is that they drop it to around 1,200. Maybe more if that's where they're getting all of the theaters to add 1,925 theaters to Elemental this week.

And just like I predicted, that was another nonsense move, but even dumber since there was no Cinema Day justification for doing it.

Bruce is currently reporting that Elemental made $894 per theater yesterday, which is a number it hasn't seen since July 17th. This is because his database is still figuring that it was only played in 235 theaters. The actual take per theater for Elemental yesterday was $97.22, which is only $3 and change above what it made on Thursday per theater before the massive theater count bump.

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Sunday, September 3, 2023 12:56 AM

I keep forgetting to mention that the past week Russia is listed as having a 14 Sept release date.



Today, some observations about Box Office figures from Australia - or lack thereof.

For the past week, BoxOfficeMojo has not posted Australia Box Office figures for Sound of Freedom, which was scheduled for release on 24 August. The page for Australia indicates where it's data source is. This link produces a page which has also not provided figures for the 24 Aug period. It had Top 5 Box Office for the prior weekend, and that data was dated 23 August. Today, that data has been updated, with a date of 30 August, and showing some data for 24-27 August. That update was not there on Thursday night, which would have been morning of 1 Sept in Australia. I also did not see it last night, which would have been morning on 2 Sept in Australia. But this morning before noon it was there, with the 3-day old date.
The numbers on BOM have not been updated, with still no SoF, Mastaney, or Meg2.
They post those numbers in, I think, Australian Dollars, although none of the conversions between Australian Box Office figures and US Dollar figures are consistent.
They post Top 5 as
1. Barbie with 3.20 M "week" and 80.19M total, BOM says 1,700,000 for weekend and 53,300,000 total.
2. SoF with 2.42M "week" and 2.43 total.
3. Oppy with 1.95M "week" , BOM says 960,577 weekend and 24,446,606 total.
4. Mastaney with 1.20M "week"
5. Meg2 with 0.98M "week" , BOM has no listing.

The SoF info suggests there was about $10K in Box Office before 24 Aug.

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Sunday, September 3, 2023 1:40 AM


Updating:

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures.
They just turned black for the weekend.
Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door.

Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5.
Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.


let's see...
For the days when working folk are not working...

Date | DBO Rnk /Scrn Rnk
04Jul 14.24 1 $5,407 1
08Jul 7.176 3 $2,431 2
09Jul 7.295 3 $2,471 1
15Jul 10.22 2 $3,132 2
16Jul 9.563 2 $2,929 2
22Jul 7,434 4 $2,263 3
23Jul 6,684 3 $2,035 3
29Jul 4.813 4 $1,411 4
30Jul 4.233 4 $1,241 4
5 Aug 2.870 6 $ 0965 7
6 Aug 2.487 6 $ 0836 6
12Aug 1.965 8 $ 0701 9
13Aug 1.551 7 $ 0554 9
19Aug 1.040 10 $ 693 8
20Aug 0.859 09 $ 399 9
26Aug 0.600 13 $ 375 15
27Aug 0.550 14 $ 344 15

other days...
05Jul 4.047 2 $1,537 1
06Jul 3.697 3 $1,404 2
07Jul 5.208 3 $1,764 2
10Jul 4.000 1 $1,355 1
11Jul 3.829 1 $1,297 1
12Jul 4.424 2 $1,499 2
13Jul 4.576 2 $1,550 2
14Jul 7.491 2 $2,294 2
17Jul 4.954 2 $1,518 1
18Jul 5.449 2 $1,669 2
19Jul 4.722 2 $1,446 1
20Jul 3.702 1 $1,134 1
21Jul 5.706 3 $1,737 3
24Jul 3.168 3 $ 0965 3
25Jul 3.391 3 $1,032 3
26Jul 3.001 3 $ 0914 3
27Jul 2.568 3 $ 0782 3
28Jul 3.766 5 $1,104 5
31Jul 2.001 4 $ 0587 4
1 Aug 2.061 4 $ 0604 4
2 Aug 1.561 5 $ 0458 6
3 Aug 1.440 5 $ 0442 7
4 Aug 2.212 6 $ 0744 6
7 Aug 1.077 6 $ 0362 7
8 Aug 1.170 6 $ 0393 8
9 Aug 0.900 8 $ 0303 7
10Aug 0.822 7 $ 0276 9
11Aug 1.351 8 $ 0482 9
14Aug 0.590 8 $ 0211 9
15Aug 0.732 9 $ 0261 9
16Aug 0.562 7 $ 0201 8
17Aug 0.438 7 $ 0156 8
18Aug 0.700 11 $ 326 10
21Aug 0.311 10 $ 145 9
22Aug 0.390 10 $ 181 10
23Aug 0.314 09 $ 146 9
24Aug 0.246 10 $ 114 10
25Aug 0.401 15 $ 250 15
28Aug 0.157 15 $0 99 15
29Aug 0.180 16 $ 113 16
30Aug 0.158 13 $0 99 14

Quote:

If trends continue, I expect SoF to gain another 50% this week (end 20 Aug), and another 30% the next week (end 27 Aug), making it about 1315%.
Using Oppy as a guide, 1/5 of the International Box Office comes from UK, Australia, Mexico. i expect $18M from these 3, which would make it about 1445% when these are tallied. Australia starts trickling in after 24 Aug, and UK/Mexico after 1 Sep.


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Bruce's predictions for the weekend do not show SoF in the Top Ten.
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Today is the 57th day of release for SoF. 8 weeks.
No figures yet posted for Monday night SoF.
Sunday my local theater did not have any showings of SoF, but did for Fri, Sat, and the rest of this week. Theater counts did not change as listed.

I have "targets" that I expect from International, due to various factors. These are a reminder for me. They are likely to be wrong.

$14 M for UK
$7 M for Mexico, Australia, Brazil
$5 M for Peru
$3 M from NZ, Colombia, Argentina

These add up to $49 M. If they make half of that, plus another $4M from the rest of the world, then that would be $29M, and SoF would pass by Megan's 1505%.

I am not sure about some releases. Which countries are English speaking? I'll conjure that Spanish speaking countries will get a dubbed version of the film. Some countries with other languages, I don't know if they are being dubbed, or just released as "Foreign Language" film, like in art houses.

Updates from Bruce for International, plus BOM International are incomplete, missing, or conflict.

SoF continues to earn more than 1% of Production Budget every day Domestically. Still does better than WokeSayGay Mansion some days.

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Sunday, September 3, 2023 1:52 AM


Sound of Freedom International Box Office.


I think I need to start a new table for this. Data is hard to come by, is not transparent, and seems to fluctuate a bunch. I will need to use Box Office Mojo for source data, and work from there. If other data becomes available, I will try to reconcile that.




Updating:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:


All figures not tagged with % are Millions of Dollars.
For Barbie figures, the same figures are both $Millions, but also % of Production Budget.
1st column is Date.
2nd column is SoF Single Day BO.
3rd column is Single Day BO % of Budget.
4th and 5th are Total Cummulative Box Office, and then % of Budget.
6th and 7th are Last 7 Days of Box Office, and then % of Budget. All for Sound of Freedom.
8th column is Barbie single Day Domestic Box Office.
9th column is the % of Budget gain on SoF % for the same day.
10th column is the Total of Barbie's Domestic Box Office.
11th column is the total of the Last 7 Days of Barbie's Domestic Box Office.
12th is the % gain on SoF for the same Last 7 Day period.
13th column - 18th columns are the same things, but for Worldwide Box Office.




0000________Sound of Freedom_______ | _______________Barbie_______________________
000/00000 Domestic Box Office 00000\ / Domestic Box Office 0 Worldwide Box Office \
00000000 1 Day Acuml Total Last L 7D 0000 Gain 00000Lst Gain0000 Gain000000Lst Gain
00001Day %Budg Total %Budg 7Day %Bdg 1Day onSoF Ttl 7Dy SoF 1Day onSoF Ttl 7Dy SoF
27J 2.57 18.4% 136.5 0975% 31.9 228% 21.2 +2.8% 258 236 +8% 44.5 26.1% 542 496 268%
28J 3.77 26.9% 140.3 1002% 30.0 214% 29.0 +2.1% 287 239 25% 60.9 34.0% 603 502 288%


18A Icel-14/F 2,854 __ 2,854 | 011,914 #3 0 8 1,489 #3 $14,768 #5 $0 14,768
17A UAE-200/T - - - - - - - -| 153,695 #8 039 3,940 #7 153,695 __ $ 153,695
18A SAf-117/F - - - - - - - -| 087,927 #2 060 1,465 #1 $87,927 __ $0 87,927
18A Lit-177/F - - - - - - - -| 0 5,654 #8 016 0 353 #2 $ 5,654 __ $ 0 5,654
24A NZ -123/T - - - - - - - -| 0 5,626 18 0 3 1,875 #5 $ 5,626 __ $ 0 5,626
0000000000000000000000$2,85400000000000000000000000000000000000000$ 267,670

Nation0 DateRng _____________________This Week_______________________
Rel Thtr Weekdy BoxOffc Rk Thtr $ per Rnk Total 0 7 Day Rnk Cummultiv
Dte Cont Weeknd00000000000 Cnt Theatr0000Weekday SbTotal0000Total BO

18A Icel 14-17A $ 2,854 __ ___ ______ __ $ 2,854
000014/F 18-20A $11,914 #3 0 8 $1,489 #3 00000000$14,768 #5 $0 14,768
17A UAE- 14-16A
000200/T 17-20A 153,695 #8 039 $3,940 #7 00000000153,695 __ $ 153,695
18A SAfr 14-17A
000117/F 18-20A $87,927 #2 060 $1,465 #1 00000000$87,927 __ $0 87,927
18A Lith 14-17A
000177/F 18-20A $ 5,654 #8 016 $0 353 #2 00000000$ 5,654 __ $ 0 5,654
24A N Z- 14-16A
000123/T 17-20A $ 5,626 18 0 3 $1,875 #5

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