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***** Sound of Freedom

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 9:50 AM

Monday's Numbers:

1. M3GAN - 1,475% [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,357% (0%)
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,271% (+0%)
4. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% (+0%)
5. Talk to Me - 1,044% (+88%) [No new Domestic numbers since Sunday. Likely a 12% gain.]
6. Barbie - 885% (+2%)

SoF needs 87% to beat SMB. (About $12 Million)
SoF needs 204% to beat M3GAN. (About $29 Million)
SoF is 227% above Talk to Me.
SoF is 386% above Barbie.

No international numbers for Sound of Freedom yet. Unless Cheap Seat Tuesday has $425k in store for Sound of Freedom, it won't see a percentage increase until Wednesday. It probably has another 2 after that through Sunday.

Internationals came in very late on Monday or early Tuesday for an 88% increase on Talk to Me. No new Domestic numbers for it since Sunday though. If Talk To Me had a larger international presence, it would likely take 1st place for the year because of its 4.5 Million budget. By next weekend, unless good international numbers start getting posted for SoF, it's very likely it will only be 100 points behind.

Barbie has really slowed down this week, posting only a 2% gain yesterday. The 2,647,855 that it did pull in was enough to beat Blue Beetle on its 4th day by nearly $500k, however.



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Wednesday, August 23, 2023 10:02 PM

The Flash's Production Budget remains in question for now. I will not be changing it from $200 Million on my lists unless solid information comes out. I just wanted to note this for my lists and let's keep an ear to the ground about it going forward.

Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Green Lantern Vs. The Flash: Which DC Comics Hero Fared Worse At The Box Office?

https://www.looper.com/1365678/green-lantern-the-flash-dc-comics-hero-
box-office
/




Speaking of The Flash...

You mentioned earlier than anybody else that I'd heard from that The Flash may have cost $300 Million instead of the reported $200 Million, but when I asked for links on that you didn't respond.

However, just yesterday I heard the same thing myself.

https://www.cbr.com/the-flash-budget-bigger-dceu/


They reference THIS article, which was about merchandising of movies this year:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/barbie-transf
ormers-ninja-turtles-summer-toys-1235566369/amp
/

I'm not going to change anything in my lists yet based off of this source, which everyone is now reporting on. Given that the article wasn't even about the Box Office or The Flash specifically, this could possibly have been a typo that just got "telephoned" out of control once somebody caught it.

It will be on my radar going forward though.



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Thursday, August 24, 2023 4:41 AM

Tuesday's Numbers:

1. M3GAN - 1,475% [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,358% (+1%)
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,271% (+0%)
4. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% (+0%)
5. Talk to Me - 1,044% (+88%) [No new Domestic numbers since Sunday. Likely a 24% gain for Monday/Tuesday.]
6. Barbie - 887% (+2%)

SoF needs 88% to beat SMB. (About $13 Million)
SoF needs 204% to beat M3GAN. (About $29 Million)
SoF is 227% above Talk to Me.
SoF is 384% above Barbie.

Super Mario Bros got another million and went up a point. Big surprise.

No international numbers for Sound of Freedom yet. SoF did not make enough on cheap seat Tuesday to go up at all today. It will tomorrow. Since it is only $25k shy of rounding up to the next million, I think it can eek out 3 percentage bumps by Sunday night, but it's really running out of gas quick in the States at this point and could see as few as 2 or even only 1 percentage bump from Monday to next Sunday after that. 21% by Sunday will get it to 67% behind Super Mario Bros and 183% behind M3GAN, with about $10 Million needed to beat SMB and $26 Million needed to beat M3GAN for the top spot.

Without any numbers in yet, I've tried to gauge buzz in South Africa about the movie but I haven't come up with anything except for articles before it was released there.


No new Domestic numbers on Talk To Me since Sunday, which is likely just a few points more than 200% behind SoF at this point.

Barbie beat Blue Beetle again.

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 5:10 AM


Updating:

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
But I have still been noticing trends, and I'll make a table to help show this.
I fully expect most folk will not have interest in this, but I think it is curious. Not only because Sound of Freedom is such a wonderful film, but also because it is breaking the mold, much like Maverick did last year.

Barbie has been benefitting from strong summer weekday sales, which SMB did not have. (SMB is a Seth Rogan film?) SoF has had strong Saturday and Sunday figures, the days when honest working folk are not working.

Over the weekend, Barbie made 53.0% of it's Production Budget. Sound of Freedom made 54.0% of it's Production Budget.

I m using $14M as the Production Budget figure for Sof, and $100M for Barbie. Barbie's international balances may bounce around, but this table is using the stated observation of 47.5% Domestic and 52.5% International.

All figures not tagged with % are Millions of Dollars.
For Barbie figures, the same figures are both $Millions, but also % of Production Budget.
1st column is Date.
2nd column is SoF Single Day BO.
3rd column is Single Day BO % of Budget.
4th and 5th are Total Cummulative Box Office, and then % of Budget.
6th and 7th are Last 7 Days of Box Office, and then % of Budget. All for Sound of Freedom.
8th column is Barbie single Day Domestic Box Office.
9th column is the % of Budget gain on SoF % for the same day.
10th column is the Total of Barbie's Domestic Box Office.
11th column is the total of the Last 7 Days of Barbie's Domestic Box Office.
12th is the % gain on SoF for the same Last 7 Day period.
13th column - 18th columns are the same things, but for Worldwide Box Office.



0000________Sound of Freedom_______ | _______________Barbie_______________________
000/00000 Domestic Box Office 00000\ / Domestic Box Office 0 Worldwide Box Office \
00000000 1 Day Acuml Total Last L 7D 0000 Gain 00000Lst Gain0000 Gain000000Lst Gain
00001Day %Budg Total %Budg 7Day %Bdg 1Day onSoF Ttl 7Dy SoF 1Day onSoF Ttl 7Dy SoF
27J 2.57 18.4% 136.5 0975% 31.9 228% 21.2 +2.8% 258 236 +8% 44.5 26.1% 542 496 268%
28J 3.77 26.9% 140.3 1002% 30.0 214% 29.0 +2.1% 287 239 25% 60.9 34.0% 603 502 288%
29J 4.81 34.4% 145.1 1036% 27.4 196% 34.5 +0.1% 322 204 +8% 72.5 38.1% 676 428 232%
30J 4.23 30.2% 149.3 1066% 24.9 178% 29.4 -0.8% 351 189 11% 61.7 31.5% 737 397 219%
31J 2.00 14.3% 151.3 1081% 23.7 169% 15.0 +0.7% 366 178 +9% 31.5 17.2% 769 374 205%
1 A 2.06 14.7% 153.4 1096% 22.4 160% 15.3 +0.6% 381 167 +7% 32.1 17.4% 800 351 191%
2 A 1.56 11.1% 155.0 1107% 21.0 150% 12.8 +1.7% 394 157 +7% 26.9 15.8% 827 330 180%
3 A 1.44 10.3% 156.4 1117% 19.9 142% 11.8 +1.5% 406 148 +6% 24.8 14.5% 853 311 169% 185
4 A 2.21 15.8% 158.6 1133% 18.3 131% 16.5 +0.7% 423 135 +4% 34.7 18.9% 888 284 153% 218
5 A 2.87 20.5% 161.5 1154% 16.4 117% 19.5 -1.0% 442 120 +3% 40.9 20.4% 928 252 135% 176
6 A 2.48 17.7% 164.0 1171% 14.6 104% 17.0 -0.7% 459 108 +4% 35.7 18.0% 964 227 123% 170
7 A 1.08 07.7% 165.1 1179% 13.7 098% 09.1 +1.4% 468 102 +4% 19.1 11.4% 983 214 116% 160
8 A 1.17 08.4% 166.2 1187% 12.8 091% 09.6 +1.2% 478 096 +5% 20.2 11.8% A04 202 111% 149
9 A 0.90 06.4% 167.1 1194% 12.1 086% 07.4 +1.0% 485 091 +5% 15.5 09.1% A19 191 105% 139
10A 0.82 05.9% 168.0 1200% 11.5 082% 07.1 +1.2% 492 086 +4% 14.9 09.0% A33 181 099% 130
11A 1.35 09.7% 169.3 1209% 10.7 076% 10.0 +0.3% 502 080 +4% 21.0 11.3% A54 168 092% 116
12A 1.96 14.0% 171.3 1224% 09.8 070% 13.2 -0.8% 516 073 +3% 27.7 13.7% 1084

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 7:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Angel Studios pointed out that in the history of Hollywood, 10 films have made more than 35% more on their 2nd weekend than on their 1st weekend.
All 10 were during the Christmas Holidays.
Until Sound of Freedom.



I saw that over a month ago, but I didn't ever repeat it here.

They said that. But then they left no citations or even mentioned one of the movies they're talking about.

You can't research that on the-numbers.com without individually looking at every single movie. At least not on the free tier. I tried.

It could be true. It could also be completely fabricated as well.

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Thursday, August 24, 2023 10:16 PM

From August 11th:

Quote:

JSF: Barbie only has about 2 weeks of summer remaining, then it will likely plateau, or flatline. Not sure if it will be able to catch SMB once summer ends.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. I don't think it's going to outright flatline out of the blue, but you can already see the numbers coming back down to earth. It could stay in theaters as long as a movie like Guardians 3 did, with ever diminishing returns until it's making about $30 per theater.



It's less than $70 Million behind SMB right now, and it's still pulling in 2.5 to 3.5 Million per day on week days Domestic. Barbie should easily be able to beat SMB as the highest grossing movie of 2023 before it's out of theaters now.

Barbie did overtake SMB as the highest grossing movie in the United States as of yesterday.

Quote:

Quote:

JSF: SoF doesn't need gobs of international sales to gain 100% more - only $14M.



Quote:

SIX: Yeah. It could very well still beat M3GAN and take number 1. But that depends on if the international release is "REAL" or not. If it gets 700+ theaters in places like UK and Australia like Barbie did, it should not have any problems finishing out the year in first place. However, if this is simply a formality and they're going to just dump this movie in only about 50 theaters in each international location, the international box office numbers are only going to amount to a few million dollars.

Time will tell. It's a shame that the international release dates are so late and aren't even going to start until all the hype in the US has long died down.





Well... As I was concerned about, the release of SoF, at least according to this article, is a joke:

https://www.iol.co.za/saturday-star/news/sound-of-freedom-film-exposes
-child-trafficking-707bbd58-454d-4d14-8119-c22b03b16e5d


Quote:

The first 50 000 tickets are now available for South Africa, providing people who can’t afford cinema tickets the opportunity to see it at one of the 43 cinemas releasing the film.


43 cinemas...

I tried to compare that to Barbie, but although SA is on the list of countries showing it internationally, it doesn't appear the entire line for SA is populated. And then I saw the "Maximum Screens" number which reads "94" next to the "Theatrical Engagements" number which also read "94" and I thought, well... okay. If Barbie only got 94 "screens", that could be in somewhere around 43 Theaters. Maybe South Africans don't go to the Cinema all that much, so the $1,485,572 that is recorded for Barbie since 07/21 is on the very high end of what one could hope that SoF could ever make in South Africa.

But then I looked at Super Mario Bros.'s International page...

It shows 109 for "Maximum Screens" and 944 for "Theatrical Engagements" and grew a little concerned. But then I saw the amount Super Mario made in South Africa and it's only $1,354,352.

So bottom line is I have no idea how many actual theaters either of the top 2 Domestic flicks of 2023 played at in South Africa, and I have no idea what the hell "Theatrical Engagements" even means in that table.

But neither of these flicks made even $1.5 Million in South Africa. I wouldn't expect much from it showing there.




How about the other countries? How did Barbie and SMB do there?

Australia (08/24/2023): Barbie $49 Million (8.5%) / SMB $34 Million (5.9%)
Brazil (09/21/2023): Barbie $33 Million (5.7%) / SMB $26 Million (4.5%)
Mexico (08/31/2023): Barbie $52 Million (9.0%) / SMB $85 Million (14.8%)
Spain (10/11/2023): Barbie $29 Million (5.0%) / SMB $29 Million (5.0%)
United Kingdom (09/01/2023): Barbie $108 Million (18.8%) / SMB $67 Million (11.7%)

They did quite well, actually... (Percentages above are rough estimates of how much they grossed compared to the Domestic Box Office)

To get second place from Super M

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Friday, August 25, 2023 1:49 AM

Wednesday's Numbers:

1. M3GAN - 1,475% [FINAL]
2. Super Mario Bros - 1,358% (+0%)
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,279% (+8%)
4. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% (+0%)
5. Talk to Me - 1,089% (+45%) [No new Domestic numbers since Sunday. Likely a 36% gain for Monday-Wednesday.]
6. Barbie - 889% (+2%)

SoF needs 80% to beat SMB. (About $12 Million)
SoF needs 197% to beat M3GAN. (About $28 Million)
SoF is 190% above Talk to Me.
SoF is 390% above Barbie.


No international numbers for Sound of Freedom yet. In fact, no Domestic Numbers yet today either. It only needed $25k to round up to $179 Million though, so it went up. Also, it gets a rather rare 8% boost today instead of only 7% since the percentage figure also got rounded up as well. SoF is now within 200 points of M3GAN.

Talk To Me must have had some international numbers come in since yesterday since it went up another 45% today without any new Domestic numbers since Sunday. Reporting on this one has been... weird. We're at the point where SoF is probably going to fall behind Talk To Me unless international numbers come in soon.

Barbie beat Blue Beetle again.

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Friday, August 25, 2023 4:33 AM

It's "National Cinema Day" one of the days this week, I guess... So unfortunately I don't get to retire any of the movies that should be retired. The Little Mermaid goes from 40 theaters to 1,600 theaters. Super Mario goes from 68 theaters to 1,461 theaters. Miles Morales 2 adds 214 theaters.

Indy 5 still loses 220 theaters this week though.

Asteroid City is getting an additional 276 theaters and it's so very close to breaking even with RoT 2.0x, so this might be what it needed to get out of the loser's category.


I'm pretty sure that all the movies I thought might retire this weekend are still on the list. When I update my lists on Monday or Tuesday I'll double-check that.

You can tell that last weekend's movies were a bomb and they don't have much faith in this week's new entries if they're going to pull a stunt like this. There's zero chance that the Box Office course-corrects and hits $100 Million after ruining it's 19-week streak last weekend. Hell... without Bruce's predictions for that until tomorrow, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they'll be lucky to pull in $80 Million this weekend.

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Friday, August 25, 2023 4:40 AM

Strangely, I don't see Sound of Freedom on the list of theaters this week at all. It was showing in 2,152 theaters as of Tuesday, and we still haven't gotten any numbers for it today. I wonder if this was a double oversight on Bruce's part, or of SoF was unceremoniously yanked from theaters prematurely after Tuesday? It was just $40k less than Haunted Mansion on Tuesday, and it made over 4 times what Indy 5 made on Tuesday. It made 26 times what Insidious pulled in on Tuesday and 32 times what Miles Morales 2 made. All of these movies are still in theaters and/or increased their theater counts for next week. Did they purposefully remove Sound of Freedom to make room for these movies that nobody is going to see?

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Friday, August 25, 2023 4:51 AM

Weird...

I'm still showing theaters offering tickets for Sound of Freedom near me online up through next Sunday. It must be a glitch on Bruce's end. With all of those additional theaters for trash like The Little Mermaid and movies that should have already been retired like Super Mario and Insidious, I'm suspecting that it will be announced that SoF loses quite a bit of theaters this weekend though.

Bruce doesn't have any international numbers up yet, but Box Office Mojo does:

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/releasegroup/gr3549975045/?ref_=bo_rl_su

I didn't even know it was released in Iceland, Lithuania and the UAE on the 18th along with South Africa. It looks like there are some numbers in for New Zealand where it was released today as well.

Only $267,670 in the bank internationally so far, and only $87,927 reported from South Africa where it was only released in 43 theaters.

I'm not sure how accurate any of that is right now, but if SoF wants 1st place it's going to have to perform a whole lot better than that internationally, especially if its US run is being prematurely cut off this weekend.

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