***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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I guess I missed it, but Croatia was added on 9/8 to The-Numbers for $73,783 in 57 theaters. Small enough to have not spotted until today.
I saw that SoF had made enough to get to the next bump, so I figured the Domestic weekend projections had come in. They hadn't.
It looks like NZ was updated. It's now at $685,125 on the-numbers. (It's at $538,503 on BOM right now).
This bump at the numbers must have been in the area of $180k, because SoF was $135k short of a bump and now is $955k short of the next bump. I don't think that's what happened though. I think that the bump for NZ on the-numbers was only around 107k and even though Bruce says the Croatia numbers were reported on the 8th, he didn't actually add them until this morning, because I'm pretty sure that BOM and TN had virtually the same NZ numbers until just right now.
Hopefully some of the big numbers from these Latin American countries start rolling in or Talk To Me just completely runs away with it at this point.
Talk To Me is at 1,400% only needing $542k for a 22% bump, while SoF is at 1,317% and in need of $955k for a 7% bump.
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Oh...
Just a few minutes later...
SoF now at $191,881,689. Still no domestic numbers in for the weekend. This looks to be additional money from Australia and UK.
SoF now at 1,324% with around $9.2M internationally reported by the-numbers.
It's getting too difficult to bother tracking the overlap of both sites, but it appears there is around $1.5 Million being reported at BOM that still hasn't made its way to the-numbers yet.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Supposedly, Sound of Freedom was 1st place in something like 14 Latin American countries this weekend. No word from either of the tracking sites, but that's what I've heard.
According to Angel Studios at least, it was #1 in 18 countries.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2023/09/06/angel-studios-reports-sound-
of-freedom-dominates-in-latin-america-in-its-opening-weekend-takes-1-spot-in-18-latin-american-countries/
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In the press release they also revealed the 18 counties where the movie took #1 at the box office. They include: Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru, Bolivia, Belize, Paraguay, Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, and Dominican Republic.
Not only were they #1 in these Latin American countries, but they also took the top spot in New Zealand in its opening weekend. The film came in second in both Australia and South Africa and fourth in the United Kingdom.
Unfortunately though, #1 in New Zealand didn't amount to diddly squat. It still needs $6 Million to beat Super Mario (which it will get), but it also still needs $27 Million to beat M3GAN, and Talk To Me might just end up in 1st place for 2023, so it might need even more than that to win.
There's still a long time from here until the end of the year. If Angel Studios comes out and shows its books and proves the story that the budget was $14 Million, but then raised $500k on crowdfunding for distribution and then gave those donors back their money plus some more money after it was a success, the budget can be lowered from the current $14.5 Million these percentages are being calculated off of.
Until then, this is nothing but rumor and needs to be proven before the calculations change.
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Sunday's Numbers: MASSIVE SOUND OF FREEDOM UPDATE!
*NOTE: Numbers haven't been updated since Friday because of lagging info, so percentage changes are from EOD Friday.
1. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,448% (+138%)
3. Talk to Me - 1,400% (+22)
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,360% (+0%)
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
SoF needs 61% to beat M3GAN. (About $9 Million)
SoF is 48% above Talk To Me.
SoF is 88% above Super Mario Bros.
Gotta say it first... Don't nobody get too excited about these Sound of Freedom numbers until we know more first. It wasn't all that long ago that Bruce gave and then took away $125 Million in China to MI7 within about a 10 hour period overnight.
So if you look at the international tab for SoF now, the only new country that got any data was the $73k I mentioned this morning on Croatia. And unlike most other movies where he has a "Rest of World" entry, there is none on the international tab.
But the "International Total" now reads $26,928,706 instead of the $9.15 or so Million it said this morning. Usually the "Rest of World" entry adds up to this along with all of the other country totals.
So... This could all be bullshit and/or an accident. We'll have to watch it the next few days and see what happens. BOM still shows just $7.7 Million internationally.
If this is true, SoF has now grossed over $210 Million worldwide and only needs $9 Million more to take 1st place from M3GAN. Also, if true, the numbers for the first week in theaters in a lot of these Latin American countries should have been high enough where the grosses from subsequent weeks going forward should probably be enough to outpace any advances that Talk To Me has left in the gas tank.
Oh... and after learning from my MI7 mistake, I've decided to archive the Sound of Freedom International tab so people can see what the hell I'm talking about if in the future it turns out this wasn't correct information and SoF doesn't currently have over $210 Million Worldwide.
Here's the Archive Link: https://archive.ph/3OCNn
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Quote:Not sure if I mentioned, The Numbers seems to have the same thing. But only for the countries that he publishes the data.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
You used data from Box office Mojo.
With Box Office Mojo, remembering things is not very important. They keep the data visible, or at least once they make the data available.
Here is the NZ summary for SoF:
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2275836673/weekend/
You clicked deeper than I did. I didn't realize you could do in-depth numbers for individual countries there. Noted.Quote:
A minor inconvenience compared to the abysmal lack of data at The Numbers.
True, but not without its own problems. The bulk of international numbers so far have come out of Australia and for whatever reason BOM hasn't even listed them at all on the international tab.
This is why I'm not going to add any numbers on any of my various lists until they show up on The-Numbers for consistency. If it so happens that Bruce never adds these numbers from other countries that haven't made their way to his lists, I will have to do a little bit of research why this is the case and I will likely add the extra money to the lists at that time. Maybe I'll write my first email to him for clarification in that event.
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Also, Croatia was posted there late Friday. Shown all weekend.
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Release dates for Germany (9 Nov) and France (14 Nov).
France is reporting this is a Fiction Film about Qanon.
Mexico Libtards were trying to convince folk that SoF would not do well, because "pay-it-forward won't work here"
Film's producer announced he is running for president of Mexico. I fear he will be quickly assassinated.
But think about if he and Trump are President at the same time.
I wonder if Trump convinced him to run, when Trump held that Private Screening at his Club in Jersey.
Today, TN updates UK, Australia, NZ. Also started moving around things, placed North America into the list.
BOM added El Salvador - but without details. Still no Australia.
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My *&#$%^@!*&;@! handheld device keeps deleting things,including the article I wanted to link.
Here's another one:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12307679/Its-peoples-movie-So
und-Freedom-producer-hails-success-14m-budget-film-moves-second-place-box-office-Mission-Impossible-having-grossed-85m.html
Producer states it is a $14M film. But, of course, how would HE know anything?
6ix, you are being dishonest by including the marketing budget, 5 years after the Production Budget was completed, as part of the Production Budget of this film.
After I read the Budget was $20M, at the beginning of this thread, YOU stated that it was $14M. Where did you get his info? Did you make it up? Did you dream it?
You are displaying your gullibility by equating your Mandela Effect as your gullibility, and that is weak tea.
Mandela Effect is where everybody remembers that, when Trump had more citizens voting for him than any other person in history, even more people cast ballots for Obiden. Only idiots believe that actually happened, yet the majority of Americans following Fake News know that this happened.
Mandela Effect merely describes Libtards.
Terms used for this $5M investment were "marketing funds" and "launch budget" among others.
This also has a bunch of release dates:
https://deadline.com/2023/08/sound-of-freedom-investors-angel-studios-
box-office-1235520610/
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Release dates for Germany (9 Nov) and France (14 Nov).
France is reporting this is a Fiction Film about Qanon.
Mexico Libtards were trying to convince folk that SoF would not do well, because "pay-it-forward won't work here"
Film's producer announced he is running for president of Mexico. I fear he will be quickly assassinated.
But think about if he and Trump are President at the same time.
I wonder if Trump convinced him to run, when Trump held that Private Screening at his Club in Jersey.
Today, TN updates UK, Australia, NZ. Also started moving around things, placed North America into the list.
BOM added El Salvador - but without details. Still no Australia.
You're not going to mention the $26.9 Million that Bruce is reporting SoF now has overseas?
Did you not see that or my previous post? Or are you just tempering your expectations that this was a math mistake on Bruce's part?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
6ix, you are being dishonest by including the marketing budget,
I'm not including the marketing budget. I never include the marketing budget for any movie before applying the 2.0x and 2.5x Rule of Thumb to the movies.
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5 years after the Production Budget was completed, as part of the Production Budget of this film.
Again, that's not what I'm doing. Part of PRODUCING a movie is DISTRIBUTING the movie. It makes no difference if it's 1 year, 5 years or 100 years after the movie was filmed and edited. If Angel Studios needed $500k in 2023 to secure distributing rights, and it raised that money on a crowdfunding platform to do so, that is part of the Production Budget and not part of the Marketing Budget.
As I stated before, if Angel Studios comes out and shows that they paid that money back plus some, as I've seen before you stated this event took place, then the Production Budget was actually less than the original $14 Million that it cost. I will simply need irrefutable proof of these events taking place.
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After I read the Budget was $20M, at the beginning of this thread, YOU stated that it was $14M. Where did you get his info? Did you make it up? Did you dream it?
I told you that I don't remember where I got it from. I did not make it up, but aside from a few Christian blogs now I don't see this information anywhere.
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You are displaying your gullibility by equating your Mandela Effect as your gullibility, and that is weak tea.
I told you that I don't believe in the Mandela Effect. I simply can't find any source that I consider would be unbiased and legitimate that states the budget was only $14 Million today when at the beginning of this thread I had found such an article that I felt met that criteria. My mistake was not citing the reference at the time and/or archiving an article of the statement.
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Mandela Effect is where everybody remembers that, when Trump had more citizens voting for him than any other person in history, even more people cast ballots for Obiden. Only idiots believe that actually happened, yet the majority of Americans following Fake News know that this happened.
Mandela Effect merely describes Libtards.
I know what the Mandela Effect is, and I don't believe it for a second.
The inability to read and comprehend what somebody said is also something that Libtards do.
You're not a closeted Libtard yourself, are you JSF?
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
My *&#$%^@!*&;@! handheld device keeps deleting things,including the article I wanted to link.
Here's another one:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12307679/Its-peoples-movie-So
und-Freedom-producer-hails-success-14m-budget-film-moves-second-place-box-office-Mission-Impossible-having-grossed-85m.html
Producer states it is a $14M film. But, of course, how would HE know anything?
This, believe it or not, may have been the article that I saw way back when I put $14 Million as the budget.
However, now with the Crowdfunding for Distribution purpose (which I've already explained is part of the Production Budget and not the Marketing Budget), and with every other legitimate website in the world saying $14.5 Million was the budget, I will need actual proof of the events that took place and this additional money that was crowdfunded was returned if I'm going to lower the budget back to $14 Million. Not just some statement that isn't even a quote in a single article.
In the end, this could be better for SoF's chances of taking and maintaining the number one spot for 2023 if it leads to actual reciepts that people were paid a dividend off of this crowdfunding and the budget actually shrinks.
Meanwhile... If those International numbers that Bruce posted today are legit and don't get removed, it might be moot. If today's additions are due to 1st week BO numbers for the 18 Latin American countries, the 2nd week is going to be really high as well. If it follows trends and makes even half as much in its second week in those countries, it beats M3GAN by next Sunday without taking into account any takes from other theaters we already have tracking for.
And with Talk To Me finally slowing down, it might not have to make much more than 1,508% of its budget to maintain first in the end.
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