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Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:05 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Unlike you, SECOND, I don't re-post every POS I find on the inet. So you won't find me posting about Trump being peed on by Russian hos, or Michelle complaining about whitey.

Where there is evidence for something, I post about it.

Also, your "three predictions" are already seriously out of date. Russia withdrew from Kherson, but in good order with all of their equipment.

Try to keep up.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Nine months of Russia’s all-out war in numbers

5,595 civilians killed
440 children killed
2 million civilians illegally deported by Russia
47,145 Russian war crimes under investigation
10,189 civilians injured
847 children injured
323 children missing
4,500 missiles fired by Russia

Note: Ukraine doesn't publish its military casualties. The number of civilian casualties is expected to be higher since it doesn't include data from the areas with heavy hostilities or those occupied by Russia.

Sources: Office of UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, President Volodymyr Zelensky, President’s Office, Prosecutor General’s Office, National Police

10:24 AM · Nov 24, 2022 · Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1595815705357815815

Signym, win or lose, a big repair bill will be sent to Russia for the damage to real estate in Ukraine. I suppose Russia won't pay if it loses and cannot afford to completely fix all it destroyed if it wins.

How much damage has been done to Ukraine?
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+much+damage+has+been+done+to+ukrai
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I think by now you'd get tired of posting bullshit, SECOND.

The west never had any intentions of releasing the Russian assets that it seized, so that money was gone six month ago. And I doubt Russia will respond to anything an impotent court is going to order.
What is the west going to do? Sanction Russia some more??

/snicker


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Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:18 PM

This is how the alpabet-agency-medua-lie-mschinw works.

Lie your head off.
And if it blows up, throw hapless reporter under the bus:

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Fired AP Reporter Who 'Risked Triggering WWIII' Actually Did Nothing Wrong

Wednesday, Nov 23, 2022 - 04:20 PM

On Tuesday we [and many other] reported that the Associated Press had fired reporter James LaPorta, two days before his birthday, over an erroneous report which cited a 'senior US intelligence official,' who claimed that a Russian missile fired into Poland had killed two civilians.

If true, the bombshell development could have potentially triggered 'Article 5' - the mutual defense agreement between NATO members, risking WWIII.

AP later retracted the story after it was revealed that Ukraine fired the missile, and the outlet issued the following correction which pinned blame on the anonymous intelligence official:

* In earlier versions of a story published November 15, 2022, The Associated Press reported erroneously, based on information from a senior American intelligence official who spoke on condition of anonymity, that Russian missiles had crossed into Poland and killed two people. Subsequent reporting showed that the missiles were Russian-made and most likely fired by Ukraine in defense against a Russian attack.*

Five days after the report, LaPorta was fired. But Slack messages obtained by Semafor reveal that he did nothing wrong - aside from working for AP in the first place.

The messages begin with LaPorta passing along a tip from a "senior American intelligence official" who was "vetted by Ron Nixon." Nixon is an Associated Press vice president.
Via Semafor

Next, editor Lisa Leff asked if the wire service could run with the narrative despite having a single source - which is against AP's rules for anonymous sources.

"that call is above my pay grade," LaPorta replied.

Another AP reporter, Vanessa Gera, suggests moving forward with the report, writing, "I can't imagine a US intelligence official would be wrong on this."

Leff then asks LaPorta if he is "in position to work up an urgent" - to which he replies, "No, I'm actually at a doctor's appointment. What I passed is all I know at the moment."

Then, Gera and Leff decide to run with it.


In short, LaPorta - a former USMC infantryman, was fired after forwarding a tip from a vetted source, and then demurring when asked if he thought they should run with it.

He has since been ordered not to comment on the situation, saying that he "would love to comment on the record, but I have been ordered by the AP to not comment." As such, Zero Hedge has not reached out for comment.

Oddly (or maybe there's a perfectly good reason for it), journalist John Leichester's name was also on the byline of the article in question despite being nowhere in the slack conversation - though he wasn't fired.

* While LaPorta said Nixon had vetted his source, Nixon later said he did not know that the source was being cited for the missile story, according to people who spoke to David Bauder, an Associated Press reporter.

The Associated Press has taken additional disciplinary action but declined to say against whom that action was taken. There have been no reports of any person besides LaPorta losing a job, including John Leicester, who was also listed on the byline.

According to Bauder, Leicester was not involved with the anonymously sourced material being placed into the story. -The Epoch Times*

Most importantly, however, who was the anonymous 'senior US intelligence official' that fed LaPorta a false narrative which risked WWIII?


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fired-ap-reporter-who-risked-trigg
ering-wwiii-actually-did-nothing-wrong


Images of internal AP discussion here

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Thursday, November 24, 2022 10:29 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I think by now you'd get tired of posting bullshit, SECOND.

The west never had any intentions of releasing the Russian assets that it seized, so that money was gone six month ago. And I doubt Russia will respond to anything an impotent court is going to order.
What is the west going to do? Sanction Russia some more??

/snicker

Russia now has an economy smaller than Canada. Did you ever wonder how Russia did poorly with all the land and people it has? Since most Russians can't compare Russia to other countries, Russians will never sense what is wrong, will they? But Russia can keep falling in the same way North Korea keeps falling behind South Korea. North Korea handles that by making it a crime to know.

North Korea has the world’s fourth-largest military, with more than 1.2 million personnel, and is believed to possess chemical and biological weapons. While it remains among the poorest countries in the world, North Korea spends nearly a quarter of its gross domestic product (GDP) on its military.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-nuclear-weapons-missile-t
ests-military-capabilities


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 25, 2022 2:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I think by now you'd get tired of posting bullshit, SECOND.

The west never had any intentions of releasing the Russian assets that it seized, so that money was gone six month ago. And I doubt Russia will respond to anything an impotent court is going to order.
What is the west going to do? Sanction Russia some more??

/snicker

Russia now has an economy smaller than Canada. Did you ever wonder how Russia did poorly with all the land and people it has? Since most Russians can't compare Russia to other countries, Russians will never sense what is wrong, will they? But Russia can keep falling in the same way North Korea keeps falling behind South Korea. North Korea handles that by making it a crime to know.

North Korea has the world’s fourth-largest military, with more than 1.2 million personnel, and is believed to possess chemical and biological weapons. While it remains among the poorest countries in the world, North Korea spends nearly a quarter of its gross domestic product (GDP) on its military.
https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/north-korea-nuclear-weapons-missile-t
ests-military-capabilities


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Keep telling yourself that, SECOND.

I'm sure it will help... something.
/snicker

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Friday, November 25, 2022 8:45 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Keep telling yourself that, SECOND.

I'm sure it will help... something.
/snicker

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


Signym, I suppose you don't know that North Korea's Army exists to prevent South Korea from conquering the North. But the North Korean Army has a dual purpose. Not only can it defend against a South Korean attack, but it can, surprise!, also invade South Korea. The various Kims who have controlled North Korea never have tried another invasion since the Korean Armistice Agreement of 1953. Perhaps the invasion of the South will never happen because of the strong possibility that the USA would fight along side of South Korea. China will not be fighting along side of North Korea because Chinese leaders are smarter today than Chairman Mao in 1953.

Russia and Ukraine have a relationship that is similar to North and South Korea. One big difference is that Kim Jong-un is not delusional about the strong cultural ties between North and South, while Putin is delusional about Russian ties to Ukraine. Russia has tried to commit genocide in Ukraine on several occasions. Russians deny it, but who do they think is gullible enough to believe Russian denials? Ukrainians don't believe the Russians. North Korea never did try such genocidal insanity in South Korea.

The other big difference is that the USA won't fight along side of Ukraine. If North Korea had a border with Ukraine, it could do as much or more damage to Ukraine than Russia has done because the USA will not fight North Koreans invading Ukraine. The USA will fight North Koreans invading South Korea because of the history behind the Korean War way back in 1953.

Signym, you can place as many /snicker tags as you want in your reply, but that shows you understand very little, much the same as Russians don't understand why Ukrainians fight rather than surrender or why Russia is poor. Russians do not understand extremely simple concepts and that has made Russia a much poorer country than Russia would be if its people would get a clue about what they are doing wrong and, using their commonsense, stop doing it.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 25, 2022 12:25 PM

Hahaha!

/snicker

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Friday, November 25, 2022 5:40 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!

/snicker

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The Russians and the North Koreans keep telling themselves that there is no connection between their international belligerency and their relative poverty compared to countries in similar conditions. The USA's belligerent attitude hasn't helped it to prosper, either. If the Iraq War and Afghanistan War hadn't been fought, the USA would be in better economic shape. Iraq and Afghanistan would have been better off, too. Looking backwards, the Napoleons of the World are in charge of where and when to go to war. The Napoleons fight while their country pays a price for their belligerency.

War of the Sixth Coalition
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon#War_of_the_Sixth_Coalition
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Alexander told the Sénat that the Allies were fighting against Napoleon, not France, and they were prepared to offer honourable peace terms if Napoleon were removed from power. The next day, the Sénat passed the Acte de déchéance de l'Empereur ("Emperor's Demise Act"), which declared Napoleon deposed.

Napoleon had advanced as far as Fontainebleau when he learned that Paris had fallen. When Napoleon proposed the army march on the capital, his senior officers and marshals mutinied.[206] On 4 April, led by Ney, the senior officers confronted Napoleon. When Napoleon asserted the army would follow him, Ney replied the army would follow its generals. While the ordinary soldiers and regimental officers wanted to fight on, the senior commanders were unwilling to continue.

Without any senior officers or marshals, any prospective invasion of Paris would have been impossible. Bowing to the inevitable, on 4 April Napoleon abdicated in favour of his son, with Marie Louise as regent. However, the Allies refused to accept this under prodding from Alexander, who feared that Napoleon might find an excuse to retake the throne.[207][208] Napoleon was then forced to announce his unconditional abdication only two days later.[208]

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 25, 2022 6:59 PM

Russia’s High-Tech Artillery System Was Supposed To Win The War In Ukraine.

The close integration of tanks, infantry and artillery should allow the guns to shoot fast at enemy troops that might break cover for less than a minute at a time. That’s all the time well-trained Russian gunners would need, in theory. “Today, the cycle [from reconnaissance to engagement] takes literally 10 seconds,” said Maj. Gen. Vadim Marusin, deputy chief of staff of Russia’s ground forces.

The fire-control system worked reasonably well on a small scale during the first phase of Russia’s war on Ukraine, in the eastern region of Donbas in 2014 and 2015. Russian batteries frequently disrupted Ukrainian attempts to mass forces for attacks.

But between 2015 and 2022, the Russian army’s biggest campaign was in Syria, where the fighting was infrequent and the enemy was unsophisticated. Artillery skills atrophied, according to Fomin. “The experience of Syria does not suit Ukraine at all,” he wrote.

Moreover, the army grew complacent — and acquired too few Orlan drones to support the fire-control system on a large scale. “On Feb. 24, most of the artillery went into battle with compass and binoculars at hand,” Fomin wrote. “The spotter needed to climb a tree or somewhere else and control the fire — there were not enough [unmanned aerial vehicles] and, in most cases, there was no UAV.”

The radar vehicles were present but couldn’t compensate for the drone shortage. “For the most part, no one knows how to use them or, perhaps, they are not effective,” Fomin wrote of the radars. “I can say one thing for sure: I have never heard at the command post that they received target designation from radar devices.”

With too few drones and broken radar links, and relying on spotters with binoculars clinging to trees, Russian artillery batteries rolling into Ukraine at best were inefficient. At worst, they were blind.

A lack of drones also has prevented Russian batteries from making good use of their Krasnopol laser-guided shells. Orlan-30 drones fitted with laser designators are the best means of guiding the Krasnopols to a target, according to Fomin. But without adequate numbers of Orlans to designate targets, the high-tech shells sit unused.

The situation has improved since February, Fomin claimed. Many batteries now have Chinese-made DJI quadcopter drones. A quadcopter might not have a laser-designator, but it does have a video camera — and that’s a big improvement over a spotter in a tree. Units also have begun swapping messages using social-media app Telegram.

As Russia’s wider war on Ukraine grinds into its ninth month, the Russian artillery fire-control system still isn’t working as designed, Fomin claimed. But it’s not too late, he stressed. “The Russian gods of war will easily solve the issue with Ukraine if more Orlan-30s are given to the troops to adjust Krasnopol,” he claimed.

The problem, of course, is that Russia is struggling to acquire drones. Domestic manufacturers are being squeezed by foreign sanctions, forcing the Kremlin to cut deals with Iranian industry. But even the Iranian drones include many foreign parts. Iran’s drone-makers might also be vulnerable to sanctions.

Worse, the Russian army’s training standards are getting lower, not higher, as experienced troops die or wind up in hospitals — and draftees with no more than two weeks of cursory instruction replace them. What chance do almost untrained conscripts have of operating a sophisticated fire-control system?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-s-high-tech-artillery-syst
em-was-supposed-to-win-the-war-in-ukraine-but-troops-didn-t-know-how-to-use-it/ar-AA14xJLI


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 25, 2022 7:47 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!

/snicker

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Russian soldiers who die in combat in Ukraine “belong to the state,” a regional governor said at a meeting with the mothers of fallen troops Thursday.

The blunt comments from Igor Kobzev, the head of the Irkutsk region in southeast Siberia, come as the Russian military officially acknowledges fewer than 6,000 casualties despite suffering major setbacks in its nine-month invasion.

Quoting his own mother's words to him when he enrolled in a military academy, Kobzev, 56, said:

“From now on you don’t belong to me, you belong to the state, the homeland.”

“With honor and great understanding, I hand over an 18-year-old boy into service in the Armed Forces and you’re becoming a person of the state.”

At the meeting, Kobzev awarded medals to the fallen soldiers’ mothers and claimed that only 28 Irkutsk region natives have died in Ukraine.

Independent media outlets tracking Russia's military deaths say 122 servicemen from the Irkutsk region have died in Ukraine since February. 

The outlets have been able to confirm the names of 9,000 Russian soldiers killed in Ukraine.

Senior U.S. officials estimate that 100,000 Russian troops have died, gone missing or been seriously injured in the war.

President Vladimir Putin is expected to meet the mothers of soldiers fighting in Ukraine later Friday.

The run-up to the anticipated meeting has been plagued by accusations from the soldiers’ relatives that Putin will likely meet handpicked representatives and continue ignoring their concerns.

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/11/25/russian-official-quits-after
-sons-bloody-videos-spark-school-shooting-fears-a79498



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, November 25, 2022 8:57 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hahaha!

/snicker

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The European Parliament has experienced a cyber attack that started not long after it declared Russia to be a state sponsor of terrorism.

The Parliament on Wednesday passed a resolution that details Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine, weighs international definitions of terrorism, and – over nine pages and 4250 words – concludes that Russia is a state sponsor of terrorism. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2022-0405_EN.html

Not long after the resolution passed, this happened:

The availability of @Europarl_EN website is currently impacted from outside due to high levels of external network traffic. This traffic is related to a DDOS attack (Distributed Denial of Service) event. EP teams are working to resolve this issue as quickly as possible.

https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/24/european_parliament_russia_ddos/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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