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Thursday, March 24, 2022 2:09 AM

In Kharkiv’s Rubble, Hatred for Russia Is Strong

Once great admirers and friends, residents have now nothing but contempt and worse for the invaders

“Russian terrorists did this. … And my father is Russian, from Belgorod!” Galina, a 63-year-old cashier, says as she pulls her belongings from the wreckage of what used to be her apartment. As she gestures at the rubble behind her, she tells us, “They dumped an enormous bomb from a plane over there, at what used to be our flat.” Galina and her husband, Sergey, also 63, have not left the city because they have nowhere to go. “Anyway, [President Vladimir] Putin’s tentacles are reaching everywhere, even to Lviv,” she says, referring to an airstrike on a volunteer base that killed dozens of soldiers several days ago across the country in western Ukraine. “He has to be stopped. He has to be killed — that is the only way.”

The foundations of half-a-dozen apartments remain, but the front walls have been blown off and most people’s possessions lie on the ground among the smashed stones. It is here that Galina and Sergey rummage through the wreckage trying to salvage what they can. The husks of two cars, now just piles of twisted black metal, lie on the street outside.

Despite the carnage that has been inflicted on the people of Kharkiv, they say that their relatives in Russia refuse to believe that anything untoward has happened to them. The irony, Galina says, is that “Kharkiv is — or at least was — a pro-Russian city! Everyone here speaks Russian and has family over the border.” But now sympathies for Russia have evaporated, replaced with burning hatred. Perhaps unexpectedly, it is here in the Russian-speaking east that you hear the most passionate denunciations of Putin and the Russian attack on Ukraine.

Previously, western Ukraine, with its closer links to central European countries like Poland and Slovakia, where Ukrainian is the dominant language, was the most fiercely anti-Russian part of the country. Yet you could still find people here who would say that they do not blame ordinary Russians for the actions of their government and lay the blame for the war on Putin. You do not hear this anywhere now in the east.

Animosity toward Russia has sharpened among people in the east for two main reasons. First, eastern Ukraine has borne the brunt of the indiscriminate destruction that Putin has unleashed. Kharkiv and Mariupol have suffered brutal and cruel bombardments. The second factor is proximity to Russia — and not just in geographical and cultural terms. For many, this feels like a deep family betrayal, as if it is their siblings and cousins firing the shots. In some cases, it is.

“If you call to Moscow — our friends have relatives there — they don’t believe any of it. A sister was looking at her brother in the hospital over video. Her brother had been wounded, and she would not believe him. She said, ‘You did this to yourself; you are fighting a war among yourselves.’ ”

The other excuse they use is: “ ‘It was the neo-Nazis who did this. Russians are here to liberate you from them,’ ” Galina fumes. “Well, all they’ve done so far is liberate us from our apartments!”

As we walked past a university building in central Kharkiv that had been blown to pieces by a GRAD rocket barrage, a local woman stopped me and pointed to the mess saying, “This was all built by imperial Russia! It’s Russian bombing Russian.”

The Russians have claimed to be striking only military targets. But in our time in Kharkiv, we saw every type of building imaginable in ruins: primary schools, apartment blocks, university residences, hospitals. It seemed that every street we drove down had more damage than the last. The destruction in the center is orders of magnitude higher than that in Kyiv.

Alexei, a 45-year-old retired police commander, was in bed when a rocket struck his apartment block three days ago. The strike came at daybreak, blowing off his unit’s windows and doors. His wife was severely injured and is currently recovering in the hospital, while his infan

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 24, 2022 2:11 AM

Not crazy, smart.

So far, all of the disruptions in oil and other commodity prices have been due to WESTERN sanctions. All of the disruptions in finances have been due to WESTERN sanctions. Russia had NOT counter sanctioned anything.

Can I help it if we're stupid enough to use all of our ammo shooting ourselves in the door?

But since THE WEST initiated a full-on assault on the ruble by blocking Russian Central Bank foreign assets and making it almost impossible to exchange rubles for dollars, Russia is smart to demand payment in rubles.

This does two things:

It raises the value of the ruble by increasing foreign demand, and

It effectively reduces gas flow to the EU without breaking a single contract by making purchase more difficult.

Sorry if you don't like Russia's response to western sanctions, maybe bc you perceive it to be an effective one.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 24, 2022 3:00 AM

Most of you are a waste of time.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
SIG: "What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same."

You have any cites for this "human shield" behavior? Any?

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Not crazy, smart.

So far, all of the disruptions in oil and other commodity prices have been due to WESTERN sanctions. All of the disruptions in finances have been due to WESTERN sanctions. Russia had NOT counter sanctioned anything.

Can I help it if we're stupid enough to use all of our ammo shooting ourselves in the door?

But since THE WEST initiated a full-on assault on the ruble by blocking Russian Central Bank foreign assets and making it almost impossible to exchange rubles for dollars, Russia is smart to demand payment in rubles.

This does two things:

It raises the value of the ruble by increasing foreign demand, and

It effectively reduces gas flow to the EU without breaking a single contract by making purchase more difficult.

Sorry if you don't like Russia's response to western sanctions, maybe bc you perceive it to be an effective one.

Uh-huh. " Russia is smart to demand payment in rubles." Sure, shoot yourself in the other foot. They didn't "demand," they requested rubbles because they can't take USD because of sanctions.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/russian-stock-market-crushed-by-war-
will-partially-reopen-thursday-01648074226

"Moscow’s stock exchange is tiny, with a market capitalization of about $773 billion at the end of last year, according to the World Federation of Exchanges. That is dwarfed by the New York Stock Exchange, where the total of all equities is roughly $28 trillion.

The average exposure by a U.S. investor through a mutual fund or retirement account to Russia is exceedingly small, according to Ben Johnson, director of global ETF research at Morningstar.

“If someone is holding a traditional 60% stock, 40% bond portfolio matched to a global index, their exposure to Russia would be roughly 0.02% of their portfolio,” Johnson said. “Russia barely registers.”

The reopening of Russia’s stock market has only minimal economic significance compared with the heavy weight of U.S.-led sanctions. A myriad of U.S., European and Japanese companies have pulled out of the country; there have been bank runs and panic buying of staples like sugar; and Russia’s currency, the ruble, has been beaten down."

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:45 AM

CAPON. Yes, I do.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
CAPON. Yes, I do.

Ok.

THG

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
SIG: "What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same."

You have any cites for this "human shield" behavior? Any?

Ukrainians accuse Russians of holding hostages in Mariupol hospital

Russian troops were holding civilians captive at a hospital in Mariupol on Tuesday, a Ukrainian official said.

The head of Donetsk’s regional administration, Pavlo Kyrylenko, said on his official Telegram that doctors and patients were being held against their will in the city’s regional intensive care facility, also known as Hospital Number 2, CNN reported.

“It is impossible to get out of the hospital. They shoot hard, we sit in the basement,” an unnamed hospital employee said, according to Kyrylenko.

“Cars have not been able to drive to the hospital for two days. High-rise buildings around us are burning … the Russians have rushed 400 people from neighboring buildings to our hospital. We can’t leave.”

https://design.onmedianet.com/

When I searched Russians' holding hostage's G links were everywhere. And not from sources like zerohedge.

T

THG

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

CAPON. Yes, I do.

Ok.

capon
['ka?pän, 'ka?p?n]
NOUN
a castrated male chicken fattened for eating.

So comrade, when do we eat?

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, March 25, 2022 6:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
CAPON. Yes, I do.

Ok... let's ... see... them...

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