Russia & Nazis

POSTED BY: captaincrunch
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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Tuesday, March 22, 2022 11:00 PM

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1497306746330697738.html

Kamil Galeev
@kamilkazani
Galina Starovoitova Fellow
@TheWilsonCenter
. MLitt in History, St Andrews. MA in China Studies, Peking University

"Let's discuss Putin speech. He declared Ukrainians to be "Neonazis" and promised to "denazify" them. Indeed the "Nazi" character of Ukrainian statehood and identity has long been a central thesis of Russian propaganda. Let's discuss why and how it reflects ideology of Putinism"

"Why Russia uses it ("nazi")? First, because it's compatible with Russian foundation myth that rulers in Kremlin are saint because once they defeated the Nazi Germany. Ofc they won't tell that it was Kremlin that built up Nazi military might and allied with them on the early stages of WWII"

WWII - Russian Front

Stalin expected that Hitler might attack. But he believed that Soviet army was strong enough to repel them quickly. On paper he had much more tanks, guns, planes. So when Hitler did attack on June 22, 1941, Stalin was calm. He ordered his troops to beat them off and counterattack

For a few days he believed the plan is working. And you know why? Nobody dared to tell him it's not. So he was calm and content, everything working perfectly.

< Gee, that sounds familiar! That's probably why Putin's butt cheeks are still clenched. He recalled how Stalin had beem lied to just as he has been in Ukraine >

Only on June 29, a week after the war started he learnt that Minsk has fallen. That meant the road on Moscow is open

How was it possible? Minsk was covered by the strongest army USSR had, the Western Front, administered by the Belarus Military District. Stalin called the People's Commissariat (=Ministry) of Defence and asked what is the situation on the Western Front. They couldn't say anything

Stalin was alarmed. He ordered Molotov, Malenkov, Beriya and Mikoyan to get into car and they all drove to the Comissariat. Stalin told to connect him with the Belarus Military District. Zhukov told there's no connection. And Stalin realised the Western Army doesn't exist anymore

He yelled at Zhukov so hard, that Zhukov ran out to another room and wept. When Politburo members left the Comissariat, Stalin told:

- Lenin left us the great state and we wasted it

Stalin left to his dacha alone

Politburo members divided. Voznesensky said that if Stalin doesn't care , then Molotov should lead the state. Molotov refused. They all went to Stalin's dacha. Stalin looked very badly and asked why did they come. Mikoyan thought - Stalin feared that they came to arrest him

Molotov said they must form a Defence Committee to run the country. And Stalin should lead it:

- Ok - said Stalin. He looked surprised

On July 6 chief of Soviet military intelligence general-lieutenant Golikov departed to London to discuss coordination of efforts in this war

Thus the USSR allied with the US and the UK. USA organised lend lease: enormous military help in food, in fuel, in vehicles, in armament. They supplied Soviet Army for the entire war. Otherwise USSR would lose, its supply chains being disrupted by the German advance

In the course of the war the narrative changed again. Now nobody would admit that the USSR wanted the war, that it built up the German military machine as an ice-breaker against the West. No, the USSR was peaceful, consistently anti-Nazi, the force of light against the darkness

It was a lie but a convenient lie. The alliance would be diffucult if Western powers admitted the truth: that the Soviets were purposefully building up the German military machine and de facto allied with Hitler in 1939-1931 dividing Eastern Europe together. So the West bought it

That's how a myth of the anti-Nazi USSR was borne. It was recognised by the West which didn't want to question the role of its allies in building up the Nazi military machine. After belief in Communism died, it became a le

THG

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 2:30 AM

Great post G. Now brace yourself. Signym is preparing a twenty page brief for her response to your post, your thread. Not to worry. If she posts a large diatribe I'll cut and past it in her gardens thread. She hates when I do that, and I do do that.

T

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 2:46 AM

There is a strong and violent Nazi element in Ukraine (local militia, "national guard", internal security, Azov Battalion) that has an effective stranglehold on government officials.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 4:16 AM

Only Ted gets to decide who is and isn't a Nazi.

Get fucked, Ted.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 12:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
There is a strong and violent Nazi element in Ukraine (local militia, "national guard", internal security, Azov Battalion) that has an effective stranglehold on government officials.

And so therefore, logically, let’s bomb the sht out of Ukrainian women and children and fck the world economy and leave a 100 year stain on the people of Russia? Brilliant. How many people in Russia- if they knew the truth- do you think want this?

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 5:17 PM

Tell Ukie Nazis to stop using women an children as human shields and tell them to stop shooting civilians who are fleeing.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 7:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Tell Ukie Nazis to stop using women an children as human shields…

Is every Ukraine male a Nazi? Because Russia is bombing civilians everywhere.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
….and tell them to stop shooting civilians who are fleeing.

Why would they shoot their own “human shields?”

Or Putin could just uninvade.

You embarrass the fck out of yourself with every post.

JAYNEZTOWN

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 7:40 PM

where's Revarfan when you need him?

it was amazing how everything broke down so fast into Godwin law or Godwin's rule

Reaver bot used make death threats each and every day against anything that might be something ....then throw around Nazi term at least 25 times a day

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 8:53 PM

Yup.

Here's a hint though. If you get deep enough under Second's skin, he starts posting like his alter-ego Reaverfan.

Reaverfan was Second's sockpuppet.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 9:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Reaverfan was Second's sockpuppet.

As Western intelligence showed that Russia was preparing to invade Ukraine, Mr. Putin declared Ukraine an American colony with a “puppet regime” and denied that he planned an invasion.

In the United States, Mr. Tucker Carlson (FOX News) also called Ukraine “an obedient puppet of the Biden State Department.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220323102544/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/03/23/technology/russia-american-far-right-ukraine.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 9:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Reaverfan was Second's sockpuppet.
As Western intelligence showed that Russia was preparing to invade Ukraine, Mr. Putin declared Ukraine an American colony with a “puppet regime” and denied that he planned an invasion.

That's been true since 2014 when we staged a coup on Ukraine's democratically elected President and put the track suit wearing puppet Z in there, Marcos.

Just because Putin says it, doesn't mean it isn't true.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 10:36 PM

Quote:
Why would they shoot their own “human shields?”

Because they were trying to flee i.e not be human shields anymore.

What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same.

Were you born stupid?
Or do you have to work at it?
You embarass yourself with every post!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 10:52 PM

Ukraine Blocks Trans Women Refugees: "They Are Men, Must Go Back & Fight"
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-blocks-trans-women-refu
gees-they-are-men-must-go-back-fight

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 11:05 PM

lol...

"You mean I cut my dick off for nothing????"

OPPS.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

THG

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 11:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Tell Ukie Nazis to stop using women an children as human shields…

Is every Ukraine male a Nazi? Because Russia is bombing civilians everywhere.

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
….and tell them to stop shooting civilians who are fleeing.

Why would they shoot their own “human shields?”

Or Putin could just uninvade.

You embarrass the fck out of yourself with every post.

G, I’ve always known Signym is a lying Russian troll but two days ago I was reading one of her posts and had an epiphany, an eye opening moment. Signym is unquestionably a moron. Really G, her arguments would be laughed out of a fifth grade level debate.

What she is posting is just as absurd as the madness Jack posts, like, no one died of COVID. Or, there is no evidence there is a war between Russia and Ukraine. No one is dying there.

Holy shit G, Signym really is stupid.

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 11:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:

G, I’ve always known Signym is a lying Russian troll but two days ago I was reading one of her posts and had an epiphany, an eye opening moment. Signym is unquestionably a moron. Really G, her arguments would be laughed out of a fifth grade level debate.

What she is posting is just as absurd as the madness Jack posts, like, no one died of COVID. Or, there is no evidence there is a war between Russia and Ukraine. No one is dying there.

Holy shit G, Signym really is stupid.

Yup. There is no defense or justification for her Russian fandom other than pretending to be stupid or shameless lying. And she doesn't really care.

It's dumb af. So much for having, "genuine conversation like we used to" that she always whines about. Yet another lie.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 23, 2022 11:48 PM

SIG: "What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same."

You would know better than me.

THG

Thursday, March 24, 2022 1:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

SIG: "What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same."

You would know better than me.

T
https://www.picgifs.com/emoticons/smileys-and-
emoticons/coffee/smileys-coffee-372222.gif

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 24, 2022 1:52 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
SIG: "What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same."

You would know better than me.

That's a pretty low bar, considering you know next to nothing and can't think your way out of a paper bag.

You've never watched hostage dramas on TV? Maybe if we called them "hostages" instead of "human shields" you might figure it out?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

JAYNEZTOWN

Thursday, March 24, 2022 2:02 AM

Putin says 'unfriendly countries' must buy Russian oil and gas in rubles.

From the 'batshit crazy' topic

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:
Moscow the Kremlin only had four supporters
'Belarus, Eritrea, North Korea and Syria
If you look at a map of the world and who is sanctioning Russia v who is not, the sanctioners are a tiny portion in a sea of nations that still trade with Russia.

Biden/Democrat Policies Sent Gas Prices Soaring Well-Before Ukraine War
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4048916/posts

SECOND

Thursday, March 24, 2022 2:09 AM

In Kharkiv’s Rubble, Hatred for Russia Is Strong

Once great admirers and friends, residents have now nothing but contempt and worse for the invaders

“Russian terrorists did this. … And my father is Russian, from Belgorod!” Galina, a 63-year-old cashier, says as she pulls her belongings from the wreckage of what used to be her apartment. As she gestures at the rubble behind her, she tells us, “They dumped an enormous bomb from a plane over there, at what used to be our flat.” Galina and her husband, Sergey, also 63, have not left the city because they have nowhere to go. “Anyway, [President Vladimir] Putin’s tentacles are reaching everywhere, even to Lviv,” she says, referring to an airstrike on a volunteer base that killed dozens of soldiers several days ago across the country in western Ukraine. “He has to be stopped. He has to be killed — that is the only way.”

The foundations of half-a-dozen apartments remain, but the front walls have been blown off and most people’s possessions lie on the ground among the smashed stones. It is here that Galina and Sergey rummage through the wreckage trying to salvage what they can. The husks of two cars, now just piles of twisted black metal, lie on the street outside.

Despite the carnage that has been inflicted on the people of Kharkiv, they say that their relatives in Russia refuse to believe that anything untoward has happened to them. The irony, Galina says, is that “Kharkiv is — or at least was — a pro-Russian city! Everyone here speaks Russian and has family over the border.” But now sympathies for Russia have evaporated, replaced with burning hatred. Perhaps unexpectedly, it is here in the Russian-speaking east that you hear the most passionate denunciations of Putin and the Russian attack on Ukraine.

Previously, western Ukraine, with its closer links to central European countries like Poland and Slovakia, where Ukrainian is the dominant language, was the most fiercely anti-Russian part of the country. Yet you could still find people here who would say that they do not blame ordinary Russians for the actions of their government and lay the blame for the war on Putin. You do not hear this anywhere now in the east.

Animosity toward Russia has sharpened among people in the east for two main reasons. First, eastern Ukraine has borne the brunt of the indiscriminate destruction that Putin has unleashed. Kharkiv and Mariupol have suffered brutal and cruel bombardments. The second factor is proximity to Russia — and not just in geographical and cultural terms. For many, this feels like a deep family betrayal, as if it is their siblings and cousins firing the shots. In some cases, it is.

“If you call to Moscow — our friends have relatives there — they don’t believe any of it. A sister was looking at her brother in the hospital over video. Her brother had been wounded, and she would not believe him. She said, ‘You did this to yourself; you are fighting a war among yourselves.’ ”

The other excuse they use is: “ ‘It was the neo-Nazis who did this. Russians are here to liberate you from them,’ ” Galina fumes. “Well, all they’ve done so far is liberate us from our apartments!”

As we walked past a university building in central Kharkiv that had been blown to pieces by a GRAD rocket barrage, a local woman stopped me and pointed to the mess saying, “This was all built by imperial Russia! It’s Russian bombing Russian.”

The Russians have claimed to be striking only military targets. But in our time in Kharkiv, we saw every type of building imaginable in ruins: primary schools, apartment blocks, university residences, hospitals. It seemed that every street we drove down had more damage than the last. The destruction in the center is orders of magnitude higher than that in Kyiv.

Alexei, a 45-year-old retired police commander, was in bed when a rocket struck his apartment block three days ago. The strike came at daybreak, blowing off his unit’s windows and doors. His wife was severely injured and is currently recovering in the hospital, while his infan

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 24, 2022 2:11 AM

Not crazy, smart.

So far, all of the disruptions in oil and other commodity prices have been due to WESTERN sanctions. All of the disruptions in finances have been due to WESTERN sanctions. Russia had NOT counter sanctioned anything.

Can I help it if we're stupid enough to use all of our ammo shooting ourselves in the door?

But since THE WEST initiated a full-on assault on the ruble by blocking Russian Central Bank foreign assets and making it almost impossible to exchange rubles for dollars, Russia is smart to demand payment in rubles.

This does two things:

It raises the value of the ruble by increasing foreign demand, and

It effectively reduces gas flow to the EU without breaking a single contract by making purchase more difficult.

Sorry if you don't like Russia's response to western sanctions, maybe bc you perceive it to be an effective one.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 24, 2022 3:00 AM

Most of you are a waste of time.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
SIG: "What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same."

You have any cites for this "human shield" behavior? Any?

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 24, 2022 6:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Not crazy, smart.

So far, all of the disruptions in oil and other commodity prices have been due to WESTERN sanctions. All of the disruptions in finances have been due to WESTERN sanctions. Russia had NOT counter sanctioned anything.

Can I help it if we're stupid enough to use all of our ammo shooting ourselves in the door?

But since THE WEST initiated a full-on assault on the ruble by blocking Russian Central Bank foreign assets and making it almost impossible to exchange rubles for dollars, Russia is smart to demand payment in rubles.

This does two things:

It raises the value of the ruble by increasing foreign demand, and

It effectively reduces gas flow to the EU without breaking a single contract by making purchase more difficult.

Sorry if you don't like Russia's response to western sanctions, maybe bc you perceive it to be an effective one.

Uh-huh. " Russia is smart to demand payment in rubles." Sure, shoot yourself in the other foot. They didn't "demand," they requested rubbles because they can't take USD because of sanctions.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/russian-stock-market-crushed-by-war-
will-partially-reopen-thursday-01648074226

"Moscow’s stock exchange is tiny, with a market capitalization of about $773 billion at the end of last year, according to the World Federation of Exchanges. That is dwarfed by the New York Stock Exchange, where the total of all equities is roughly $28 trillion.

The average exposure by a U.S. investor through a mutual fund or retirement account to Russia is exceedingly small, according to Ben Johnson, director of global ETF research at Morningstar.

“If someone is holding a traditional 60% stock, 40% bond portfolio matched to a global index, their exposure to Russia would be roughly 0.02% of their portfolio,” Johnson said. “Russia barely registers.”

The reopening of Russia’s stock market has only minimal economic significance compared with the heavy weight of U.S.-led sanctions. A myriad of U.S., European and Japanese companies have pulled out of the country; there have been bank runs and panic buying of staples like sugar; and Russia’s currency, the ruble, has been beaten down."

SIGNYM

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:45 AM

CAPON. Yes, I do.

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Pity would be no more,
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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
CAPON. Yes, I do.

Ok.

THG

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
SIG: "What good is a human shield if it doesn't stay put?
Shooting some and leaving their bodies on the street keeps others from trying the same."

You have any cites for this "human shield" behavior? Any?

Ukrainians accuse Russians of holding hostages in Mariupol hospital

Russian troops were holding civilians captive at a hospital in Mariupol on Tuesday, a Ukrainian official said.

The head of Donetsk’s regional administration, Pavlo Kyrylenko, said on his official Telegram that doctors and patients were being held against their will in the city’s regional intensive care facility, also known as Hospital Number 2, CNN reported.

“It is impossible to get out of the hospital. They shoot hard, we sit in the basement,” an unnamed hospital employee said, according to Kyrylenko.

“Cars have not been able to drive to the hospital for two days. High-rise buildings around us are burning … the Russians have rushed 400 people from neighboring buildings to our hospital. We can’t leave.”

https://design.onmedianet.com/

When I searched Russians' holding hostage's G links were everywhere. And not from sources like zerohedge.

T

THG

Thursday, March 24, 2022 7:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

CAPON. Yes, I do.

Ok.

capon
['ka?pän, 'ka?p?n]
NOUN
a castrated male chicken fattened for eating.

So comrade, when do we eat?

T

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, March 25, 2022 6:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
CAPON. Yes, I do.

Ok... let's ... see... them...

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, March 25, 2022 6:42 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
CAPON. Yes, I do.

Maybe this will help:

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, March 25, 2022 6:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Yes, I do.

Cites?

SIGNYM

Friday, March 25, 2022 9:43 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
CAPON. Yes, I do.

Maybe this will help:

What does that say? I guess you know Russian better than I do!

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, March 26, 2022 12:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What does that say? I guess you know Russian better than I do!

I'm fluent in Google.

It says "where are the cites you said you had?"

THG

Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
]
What does that say? I guess you know Russian better than I do!

I'm fluent in Google.

It says "where are the cites you said you had?"

More importantly now G, are going to be all the stories in the press telling how the Russians are declaring victory. How they are moving their troops and focus to the Donbas area. They are claiming they denazified Ukraine and dismantled the Ukrainian army.

Wait for it G. It'll be in the news any moment now. I think they watched NATO and Biden having a grand old time today and vowing their continued support for the sanctions going forward.

How funny is this shit Hey Signym, I told you so.

T

THG

Saturday, March 26, 2022 1:48 AM

Russian focus on ‘liberating’ Donbas hints at shift in strategy

Ukrainian resistance may mean that Russia is changing its strategy to more limited goals and focusing on Donbas.

Russia has claimed that the first phase of its “military operation” in Ukraine was mostly complete, and that it would focus on completely “liberating” eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region.

The announcement on Friday appeared to indicate that Russia may be switching to more limited goals after running into fierce Ukrainian resistance in the first month of the war in Ukraine.

“The main objectives of the first stage of the operation have generally been accomplished,” Sergei Rudskoi, head of the Russian General Staff’s Main Operational Directorate, said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/25/russian-army-says-will-focus-
on-liberation-of-donbas-region

Signym, it's too bad for me you can't see me yelling "hey Signym, I told you so" G, you gotta love it.

T

THG

Saturday, March 26, 2022 2:48 AM

A Russian Commander Was Killed By His Own Troops, Western Officials Have Revealed

Russian troops killed one of their own commanders due to the losses being suffered during the invasion of Ukraine, Western officials have said.

It is also believed Vladimir Putin has decided to “pause” his attempt to take Kyiv in order to concentrate his forces on the Donbas region in the east of the country.

Russian troops have unexpectedly “found themselves in a hornets’ nest and are suffering really badly”, a Western official said, leading to widespread morale problems.

As the advance falters, Russian soldiers are said to have killed one of their own senior officers.

“We believe he was killed by his own troops deliberately. Indeed we believe he was run over by his own troops,” an official said.

In addition, another Russian general is believed to have been killed by Ukrainian forces, taking the total since the start of the war to seven.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-russian-commander-was-killed-by
-his-own-troops-western-officials-have-revealed/ar-AAVuPVL?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d52acc023ed04293844c528764a20e7b

T

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 26, 2022 4:53 AM

Don't mistake your ignorance for knowledge.

Various non- mainstream analysts have been saying for WEEKS while western press has a laser focus on Kiev, the real fighting is in the southeast- the Donbas. They have been saying for WEEKS that the intention was never to take Kiev, that the only reason to put troops there is to pin down Ukie troops so they can't reinforce the troops in the SE. Every action has been to cut reinforcements and supplies ro the SE, bc that's where Kiev had stationed most of its troops to blitzkrieg the DPR-LPR.

Just bc western press has turned it's attention doesn't mean Russia has, too.

If you don't believe me, just pick any Duran video that discusses the military situation in Ukraine, and you will hear them saying the same thing over and iver- Western press has focused in Kiev, Russia has always focused on the Donbas.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

SECOND

Saturday, March 26, 2022 5:26 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Don't mistake your ignorance for knowledge.

Various non- mainstream analysts have been saying for WEEKS while western press has a laser focus on Kiev, the real fighting is in the southeast- the Donbas. They have been saying for WEEKS that the intention was never to take Kiev, that the only reason to put troops there is to pin down Ukie troops so they can't reinforce the troops in the SE. Every action has been to cut reinforcements and supplies ro the SE, bc that's where Kiev had stationed most of its troops to blitzkrieg the DPR-LPR.

Just bc western press has turned it's attention doesn't mean Russia has, too.

If you don't believe me, just pick any Duran video that discusses the military situation in Ukraine, and you will hear them saying the same thing over and iver- Western press has focused in Kiev, Russia has always focused on the Donbas.

If that was always Putin's plan, Putin is crazy. If they'd done only Donbas from the start this whole thing would have been another Crimea: a quick, easy sprint that would have left the world with a fait accompli it could do little about. And it would have solidified Putin's reputation for military genius instead of turning into a long, grinding war that's done nothing but expose the Russian military as far less capable than anyone imagined, including Putin.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 26, 2022 6:26 AM

Once again you expose your ignorance. Sorry that you can't be bothered to understand reality.

Quote:
Bloomberg writes further of the Russian commander's surprising words, "Rudskoi claimed Russian troops have surrounded several major cities but deliberately didn’t seek to take them, instead aiming to pin Ukrainian troops down. His comments were the most detailed official accounting of Russian military performance since the Feb. 24 invasion."

Non- mainstream analysts have been saying this for WEEKS. I have posted similar musings and even IIRC a link to a video titled something like "the destruction of armies, not the taking of cities". If you can't find the link in my posts, go to The Duran on YouTube, you will see a video with that kind of title.

Mercouris has been saying that the west doesn't understand Russian military strategy bc it is based on von Clausewitz, which nobody seems to know about.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Saturday, March 26, 2022 6:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Don't mistake your ignorance for knowledge.

Various non- mainstream analysts have been saying for WEEKS while western press has a laser focus on Kiev, the real fighting is in the southeast- the Donbas. They have been saying for WEEKS that the intention was never to take Kiev, that the only reason to put troops there is to pin down Ukie troops so they can't reinforce the troops in the SE. Every action has been to cut reinforcements and supplies ro the SE, bc that's where Kiev had stationed most of its troops to blitzkrieg the DPR-LPR.

Just bc western press has turned it's attention doesn't mean Russia has, too.

If you don't believe me, just pick any Duran video that discusses the military situation in Ukraine, and you will hear them saying the same thing over and iver- Western press has focused in Kiev, Russia has always focused on the Donbas.

“We meant to fck up!”

Good one Sigs! All that destruction of war material and soldiers, crash their economy, risk losing the value of their main revenue utility, unite NATO and the West, drive out educated Russians by the tens of thousands… as a feint so they can finally try to take Donbas?!?! Which they already largely control. Damn! That’s really stupid!

THG

Saturday, March 26, 2022 6:36 AM

T

SIGNYM

Saturday, March 26, 2022 7:07 AM

Reading comprehension grade: F.

Have Russians ever committed to occupying Ukraine?
No?

Then, what is their "end" goal? It's been repeated often enough. Surely you remember by now!

You're confusing goals (neutralize, de-Nazify) with strategy (destruction of armies).

Jeez, you're both stupid.

And you refuse to learn.

*****

Look at Syria. Russia parses its interests very finely.

They allow Israeli strikes in Iranian and Syrian forces, but not on theirs, even tho they're all "on the same side".

They made extensive use of humanitarian corridors, which functioned as well as the occupying terrorists would let them.

They even allowed surrendering terrorists to leave Aleppo, Ghouta, and other contested cities to decamp with their families to Idlib.

They tolerate Erdogan s behavior until it becomes too egregious, then they whack him over the nose with a rolled up newspaper.

It's not "total war"/total destruction that we've come to expect, but has narrower goals and leaves the standing government intact. Seems as if they don't want to do what the USA does and destroy a nation AND create a power vacuum. I imagine they don't want to create failed states on/near their border, which we (USA) have no problems doing.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Saturday, March 26, 2022 7:20 AM

I just saw 1970's Mark Hammill in scenes from The Mandalorian.

Nothing in Ukraine you're watching on TV is real.

Nothing is real anymore.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, March 26, 2022 8:44 PM

Regarding OP:

Was Trudeau indoctrinated in Russia?

Is that why he kept calling Freedom loving patriotic truckers "Swastikas" all the time, despite no swastikas being present?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, March 28, 2022 9:18 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Reading comprehension grade: F.

Have Russians ever committed to occupying Ukraine?
No?

Then, what is their "end" goal? It's been repeated often enough. Surely you remember by now!

You're confusing goals (neutralize, de-Nazify) with strategy (destruction of armies).

Jeez, you're both stupid.

And you refuse to learn.

*****

Look at Syria. Russia parses its interests very finely.

They allow Israeli strikes in Iranian and Syrian forces, but not on theirs, even tho they're all "on the same side".

They made extensive use of humanitarian corridors, which functioned as well as the occupying terrorists would let them.

They even allowed surrendering terrorists to leave Aleppo, Ghouta, and other contested cities to decamp with their families to Idlib.

They tolerate Erdogan s behavior until it becomes too egregious, then they whack him over the nose with a rolled up newspaper.

It's not "total war"/total destruction that we've come to expect, but has narrower goals and leaves the standing government intact. Seems as if they don't want to do what the USA does and destroy a nation AND create a power vacuum. I imagine they don't want to create failed states on/near their border, which we (USA) have no problems doing.

I hear reports that today Putin's missile salvos are turning Kiev to rubble.

Are these reports incorrect?
Or why this if Putin's goal is Donbas?

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, March 28, 2022 10:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I hear reports that today Putin's missile salvos are turning Kiev to rubble.

Are these reports incorrect?
Or why this if Putin's goal is Donbas?

Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but if your goal was a city named Donbas would you tell CNN and FOX News that your goal was a city named Donbas?

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 2:48 AM

Quote:
Russia Alleges Ukraine Torturing Russian POWs, Launches Probe After Videos Go Viral

Videos released last week of Ukrainian soldiers allegedly torturing Russian prisoners of war has invited widespread criticism of Ukraine’s leadership. The footage and its contents could not be independently verified by News18.

A Russian investigative committee will now launch a probe to see if excesses were committed to Russian POWs, news agency RT said in a report. The video was originally shared by Maria Dubovikova, an independent journalist.

The video shows Russian soldiers lying on the ground, some bleeding profusely and amid all the commotion a Ukrainian soldier allegedly shoots a Russian soldier on his leg and proceeds to beat all of the wounded Russian soldiers.

https://www.news18.com/news/world/russia-alleges-ukraine-torturing-rus
sian-pows-launches-probe-after-videos-go-viral-4917221.html

But there are no Nazis in Ukraine.

/snark

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THG

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 3:47 AM

Hey Signym, I told you so.

T

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 4:15 AM

Quote:
THUGR:
Hey Signym, I told you so.

You told me that Ukrainians are committing war crimes?

Yeah.
Right

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 5:05 PM

Just to remind you, THUGR:

Dood, you're so biased you don't even recognize WAR CRIMES when "your side" is doing them. You cheer them on.

I'm embarassed for you.

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THG

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 8:01 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Just to remind you, THUGR:

Dood, you're so biased you don't even recognize WAR CRIMES when "your side" is doing them. You cheer them on.

I'm embarassed for you.

T

It's Time For Putin To Start Worrying What The U.S. Thinks

THG

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 8:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

There is a strong and violent Nazi element in Ukraine (local militia, "national guard", internal security, Azov Battalion) that has an effective stranglehold on government officials.

While Signym searches for Putin’s next angle, next propaganda tack to deflect the world away from focusing on the biggest fuck up of the 20 and 21st century’s, reality continues. The world is heading for a bit of a self-imposed recession. We’ve decided it is necessary for us to suffer this now, rather than suffer a worse recession or even depression in the future if this happens again. This is good taking on bad to save democracy.

I’ll give one example of how bad this is for Russia. The stock market is scrambling to separate its clients from Russia before our government lowers the boom. None, none of Wall Streets' investors what anything Russian in their portfolios’.

Putin is/has destroyed Russia.

T

SECOND

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 8:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just to remind you, THUGR:

Dood, you're so biased you don't even recognize WAR CRIMES when "your side" is doing them. You cheer them on.

I'm embarassed for you.

This is classic whataboutism, Signym. Are you trying to deflect? By the way, Russia is arresting reporters who write about this war. War Crimes won't get into the average Russian's consciousness because the reporters can't report War Crimes. Reporters can't even call this a War without Putin arresting them.

Under Putin's media crackdown, Russian journalists flee to Turkey
https://www.npr.org/2022/03/26/1089033542/under-putins-media-crackdown
-russian-journalists-flee-to-turkey

“The Putin Regime Doesn’t Want Eye Witnesses”
https://niemanreports.org/articles/ukrainian-journalists-russian-threa
ts/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 9:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
J
ust to remind you, THUGR:

Dood, you're so biased you don't even recognize WAR CRIMES when "your side" is doing them. You cheer them on.

I'm embarassed for you.
This is classic whataboutism, Signym. Are you trying to deflect? By the way, Russia is arresting reporters who write about this war. War Crimes won't get into the average Russian's consciousness because the reporters can't report War Crimes. Reporters can't even call this a War without Putin arresting them.

Under Putin's media crackdown, Russian journalists flee to Turkey

T

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:44 PM

Quote:
SIGNYM:
Just to remind you, THUGR:

Dood, you're so biased you don't even recognize WAR CRIMES when "your side" is doing them. You cheer them on.

I'm embarassed for you.

SECOND: This is classic whataboutism, Signym. Are you trying to deflect?

Accusing me of whataboutism and following it with a whataboutism?

Classic!

Quote:
By the way, Russia is arresting reporters

Arresting them?
OH NOS!
Maybe they should shoot them in the leg and then beat them to a pulp?
That would be an equivalent crime.
Next time, come up with a better whataboutism, m'kay?

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 29, 2022 11:48 PM

Quote:
SignyM:

There is a strong and violent Nazi element in Ukraine (local militia, "national guard", internal security, Azov Battalion) that has an effective stranglehold on government officials.

THUGR: While Signym searches for Putin’s next angle,

Son, you just haven't been paying attention.

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SECOND

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 12:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:
SIGNYM:
Just to remind you, THUGR:

Dood, you're so biased you don't even recognize WAR CRIMES when "your side" is doing them. You cheer them on.

I'm embarassed for you.

SECOND: This is classic whataboutism, Signym. Are you trying to deflect?
Accusing me of whataboutism and following it with a whataboutism?

Classic!
Quote:
By the way, Russia is arresting reporters
Arresting them?
OH NOS!
Maybe they should shoot them in the leg and then beat them to a pulp?
That would be an equivalent crime.
Next time, come up with a better whataboutism, m'kay?

Signym, why is it so hard for you to understand that Russia making it illegal to use the words War Crime to describe what Russians are doing makes life easy for Putin while he commits War Crimes without worry that his base of voters will know what he is doing?

Russia fights back in information war with jail warning
• Russia to impose jail terms, fines for fake news
• Those who lied will be punished - Duma chairman
• Russia limits access to BBC and other news sites
• BBC: access to accurate information is human right
• Russia says it is fighting an information war
MOSCOW, March 4 (Reuters) - Russia's parliament on Friday passed a law imposing a jail term of up to 15 years for spreading intentionally "fake" news about the military, stepping up the information war over the conflict in Ukraine.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-introduce-jail-terms-sprea
ding-fake-information-about-army-2022-03-04/

Signym, the Russian jail sentence starts immediately, upon first arrest and will continue until you get out after your trial ends, a trial that might not begin for years. Putin wants to be certain that Russians can't see/hear/read about War Crimes from the Russian media.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 12:44 AM

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Russia is NOT committing "war crimes"?

War is hell, and people get killed, but that is not a "war crime".

Just like it didn't occur to you that maybe Trump did NOT "collude" with Russia, or that Jan 6 was NOT an "insurrection"?

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SECOND

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 1:19 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Russia is NOT committing "war crimes"?

War is hell, and people get killed, but that is not a "war crime".

Just like it didn't occur to you that maybe Trump did NOT "collude" with Russia, or that Jan 6 was NOT an "insurrection"?

Russia would be forbidding Russian media to report War Crimes, and jailing without trial, because it is committing war crimes.

And the words collude and collusion are Trump's coinage. In Trump's own words: "Before the Impeachment Hoax, it was the Russian Witch Hunt. Against all evidence, and regardless of the truth, you and your deputies claimed that my campaign colluded with the Russians—a grave, malicious, and slanderous lie, a falsehood like no other."
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6581920/Letter-From-Preside
nt-Trump-Final.pdf

Why would Trump use the words collusion and collude? He was confused and he was misleading. Trump never understood that the Mueller Report actually mocked the word collusion because that word had absolutely nothing to do with anything Mueller was looking into. See page 180, where Mueller gets out his dictionary and explains to thickheaded fools that he was NOT investigating collusion, but the only thing that Trumptards would understand is Mueller beating them with a steel pipe whenever they say the word collusion. Mueller is too diffident to take such action.

Report On The Investigation Into
Russian Interference In The
2016 Presidential Election
by Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller, III
https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1373816/download

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 3:10 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Russia is NOT committing "war crimes"?

Nope

Wikipedia: “A war crime is a violation of the laws of war that gives rise to individual criminal responsibility for actions by the combatants, such as intentionally killing civilians (check) or intentionally killing prisoners of war, torture, taking hostages (1 maybe, 2 definitely) unnecessarily destroying civilian property (check) deception by perfidy (check) wartime sexual violence (check), pillaging (check) the conscription of children in the military (I hope not, but maybe just have to give them time) committing genocide or ethnic cleansing (check) the granting of no quarter despite surrender (no check - Ukraine will never surrender) and flouting the legal distinctions of proportionality and military necessity.” (check) (check)

Add in invading a sovereign country - check

No question = War Crimes

SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 6:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Russia is NOT committing "war crimes"?

Nope

Wikipedia: “A war crime is a violation of the laws of war that gives rise to individual criminal responsibility for actions by the combatants, such as intentionally killing civilians (check) or intentionally killing prisoners of war, torture, taking hostages (1 maybe, 2 definitely) unnecessarily destroying civilian property (check) deception by perfidy (check) wartime sexual violence (check), pillaging (check) the conscription of children in the military (I hope not, but maybe just have to give them time) committing genocide or ethnic cleansing (check) the granting of no quarter despite surrender (no check - Ukraine will never surrender) and flouting the legal distinctions of proportionality and military necessity.” (check) (check)

Add in invading a sovereign country - check

No question = War Crimes

Any evidence for that?

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SECOND

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 6:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:

Any evidence for that?

Here is the evidence war crimes russia:
https://www.google.com/search?q=evidence+war+crimes+russia
About 294,000,000 results is enough to imprison Putin.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 7:23 AM

LOL

Seems like the pseudo-intellectual retards are going to tell us what a war crime is.

Just another day with the brainless turds in the RWED, huh?

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 1:13 PM

Quote:
SignyM:

Any evidence for that?

SECOND: Here is the evidence war crimes russia:
https://www.google.com/search?q=evidence+war+crimes+russia
About 294,000,000 results is enough to imprison Putin.

The twisted human pretzel thinks # of search results is evidence?

How many results if you google "trump collusion"?

Hint to SECOND; Stop drunk-posting.

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SECOND

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 5:12 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SignyM:

Any evidence for that?

SECOND: Here is the evidence war crimes russia:
https://www.google.com/search?q=evidence+war+crimes+russia
About 294,000,000 results is enough to imprison Putin.

The twisted human pretzel thinks # of search results is evidence?

How many results if you google "trump collusion"?

Hint to SECOND; Stop drunk-posting.

You didn't click on those links, Signym. Let me do one for you:
We're seeing 'clear evidence' Russia is 'conducting war crimes'

Another: Accusations (and evidence) of Russian war crimes in Ukraine
https://thebulletin.org/2022/03/accusations-and-evidence-of-russian-at
rocity-crimes-in-ukraine/
There is a brief history lesson in this article: Ukrainians have long accused Stalin of genocide against them in the Holodomor, the murderous famine of 1932-33. President Vladimir Putin and the Russians virulently deny the charge, even though some four million Ukrainians died because of the Kremlin’s policies. (Some Ukrainian historians estimate that up to 11.5 million died.) In the lead up to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on February 24, Putin, Russian Minister of Foreign Affairs Sergei Lavrov, and other government spokesmen accused Ukrainians of genocide of “Russian-speaking civilians” in Donetsk and Luhansk provinces. This was, in some ways, a perverse response to the accusation of genocide during the Stalin period. Russian leaders conjured up sacral associations from the “Great Patriotic War” (World War II) by combining claims of genocide with accusations that the Ukrainians are neo-Nazis and fascists.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 6:23 PM

Ah. So that's where American Democrats got that one for their go-to move in their playbook.

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Has it ever occurred to you that maybe Russia is NOT committing "war crimes"?

Nope

Wikipedia: “A war crime is a violation of the laws of war that gives rise to individual criminal responsibility for actions by the combatants, such as intentionally killing civilians (check) or intentionally killing prisoners of war, torture, taking hostages (1 maybe, 2 definitely) unnecessarily destroying civilian property (check) deception by perfidy (check) wartime sexual violence (check), pillaging (check) the conscription of children in the military (I hope not, but maybe just have to give them time) committing genocide or ethnic cleansing (check) the granting of no quarter despite surrender (no check - Ukraine will never surrender) and flouting the legal distinctions of proportionality and military necessity.” (check) (check)

Add in invading a sovereign country - check

No question = War Crimes

Any evidence for that?

Yes - overwhelming.

That reminds me. You said you had evidence of Ukrainians using Ukrainian civilians as human shields. You haven’t posted any, or did I miss it?

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Seems like the pseudo-intellectual retards are going to tell us what a war crime is.

What’s that noise? Oh, Jack desperate for attention as usual. Just another day in rwed.

So, boy genius, tell us what a war crime is.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:23 PM

Are you still believing everything you see on CNN and MSNBC?

You should know better by now.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah. So that's where American Democrats got that one for their go-to move in their playbook.

Have you ever noticed that racists claim they are not racists? That Nazis claim they are not Nazis? That liars claim they are not liars? . . . you get the idea. It is funny! But Criminal Courts know how to sort that out. The International Criminal Court is examining evidence of “war crimes” and “crimes against humanity” committed by the Russians in Donetsk, Luhansk, and the rest of Ukraine, where the Russian military has targeted civilian populations, including women and children. In the cases of genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity—distinct categories of international crimes—the story is far from over. Prosecutors are collecting evidence, and the UN mandated courts will hold the perpetrators accountable. Putin’s distorted historical ruminations leading up to the invasion offer supporting evidence that the Russians do not recognize Ukrainians as a distinct nationality.

https://thebulletin.org/2022/03/accusations-and-evidence-of-russian-at
rocity-crimes-in-ukraine

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Seems like the pseudo-intellectual retards are going to tell us what a war crime is.

What’s that noise? Oh, Jack desperate for attention as usual. Just another day in rwed.

So, boy genius, tell us what a war crime is.

I see Jack answered your question with a question. Someone, not me though, should explain to Jack you answer a question by answering it, not asking another question.

Better still, ignoring someone as desperate for attention as Jack is a hoot. I recommend it.

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I see Jack answered your question with a question. Someone, not me though, should explain to Jack you answer a question by answering it, not asking another question.

First off, you'll see a long history of any single one of my questions being answered with other questions by you retards. In the case of Second, he just quotes me all the time and responds with non-related nonsense. In the case of Cap'n, he just runs away from all the threads after I destroy him.

Second, I didn't quote him. Look at the time stamps. I happened to be writing that in reply to his dumbassery directed at Sigs just as he was writing the question to me. And now that I've seen his question it doesn't even warrant my time.

Quote:
Better still, ignoring someone as desperate for attention as Jack is a hoot. I recommend it.

You "ignore" me because you got tired of being wrong all the time. You're a weasel coward. A frightened little boy.

Go back to ignoring me before I thrash you.

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6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 8:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Ah. So that's where American Democrats got that one for their go-to move in their playbook.
Have you ever noticed that racists claim they are not racists? That Nazis claim they are not Nazis? That liars claim they are not liars?

Yeah. I know. You should stop denying who you are.

You're a fucking jackboot brownshirt racist piece of shit liar, Arthur.

And despite having your terrible sockpuppet Reaverfan permabanned from this site, I know how to push your buttons and make that part of you show through under this handle too.

I feel really sorry for whoever you're taking all of that pent-up negative Reaverfan energy out on everyday now that it was banned from here.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 9:02 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you still believing everything you see on CNN and MSNBC?

You should know better by now.

Jack wets himself as usual. Come on, take a stab: what's a war crime? You get extra points if you don't ask Sig.

SECOND

Wednesday, March 30, 2022 10:14 PM

“Russia isn't reducing Russian troop presence around Kyiv and Chernihiv.
Ukraine is reducing Russian troop presence.”
-- Zelenskyy, March 29th

Russia to 'Drastically' Wind Down Military Presence Near Kyiv, Chernihiv
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/29/russia-to-drastically-wind-d
own-military-presence-near-kyiv-chernihiv-a77127

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Thursday, March 31, 2022 5:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you still believing everything you see on CNN and MSNBC?

You should know better by now.

Jack wets himself as usual.

Wet myself.

If I want your opinion, I'll read a mainstream news article.

You fuckin' dummies don't have any thoughts or opinions of your own.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, March 31, 2022 9:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you still believing everything you see on CNN and MSNBC?

You should know better by now.

jack wets himself as usual.
Wet myself.

If I want your opinion, I'll read a mainstream news article.

That's Fake News.

CAPTAINCRUNCH

Thursday, March 31, 2022 6:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you still believing everything you see on CNN and MSNBC?

You should know better by now.

Jack wets himself as usual.

Wet myself.

If I want your opinion, I'll read a mainstream news article.

Jack fills his diaper.

Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You fuckin' dummies don't have any thoughts or opinions of your own.

So help us! Since you’re always right, this should be easy: what’s a war crime?

THG

Thursday, March 31, 2022 7:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
“Russia isn't reducing Russian troop presence around Kyiv and Chernihiv.
Ukraine is reducing Russian troop presence.”
-- Zelenskyy, March 29th

Russia to 'Drastically' Wind Down Military Presence Near Kyiv, Chernihiv
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/29/russia-to-drastically-wind-d
own-military-presence-near-kyiv-chernihiv-a77127

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

UK spy chief: Russian soldiers are refusing to carry out orders in Ukraine

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/uk-spy-chief-russian-soldiers-are
-refusing-to-carry-out-orders-in-ukraine/ar-AAVGRxq?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=11077aca3d9848daa71ac42a57c961c6

And second...

T

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 1, 2022 4:38 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Are you still believing everything you see on CNN and MSNBC?

You should know better by now.

Jack wets himself as usual.

Wet myself.

If I want your opinion, I'll read a mainstream news article.

Jack fills his diaper.

Come over here baby, and I'll shit in your face.

Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You fuckin' dummies don't have any thoughts or opinions of your own.

So help us! Since you’re always right, this should be easy: what’s a war crime?

Google it, dumb shit.

We already know that half of your "intelligence" comes from your smartphone.

TIP OF THE DAY: Don't believe whatever Wikipedia tells you.

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Me: "Remember Covid?"

Useless Idiots: "What's Covid, durr? Russia, Ukraine, Putin, NATO *drool*. DURRRR!!!!"

SECOND

Friday, April 1, 2022 8:31 AM

Four possible endings

However it started, the war will probably end in one of four ways.

Russia could seize control of part or all of Ukraine, but only briefly. The Russian military’s struggle to gain control over Ukrainian cities, and to keep control over the one major city it has seized, strongly suggests that it cannot sustain a long-term occupation. The disastrous Soviet war in Afghanistan, which hastened the USSR’s collapse, comes to mind.

In the second scenario, Ukraine agrees to recognize Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk as Russian territories, enabling the Kremlin’s propaganda machine to churn out stories of “liberated” Ukrainians. But, even as the Putin regime claimed victory, Russia would remain a global pariah, with its economy permanently scarred by sanctions, abandoned by hundreds of global companies, and increasingly devoid of young people.

In the third scenario, an increasingly frustrated Putin deploys tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. As Dmitry Medvedev, a former president who is deputy chairman of Russia’s security council, recently warned, Russia is prepared to strike against an enemy that has used only conventional weapons. Kremlin propaganda would surely present this as a victory, most likely citing America’s 1945 bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki as precedent for the use of nuclear weapons to end a war—and proof that any Western criticism was rank hypocrisy.

In the final scenario, President Joe Biden gets his wish: Putin is removed from power. Given that Russia has no tradition of military coups, this is highly unlikely. Even if it did happen, the system Putin built would remain in place, sustained by the cohort of former KGB colleagues and other security goons (“siloviki”) that he has been grooming for two decades.

While foreign adventurism might abate, Russians would remain isolated and oppressed. After all, the FSB may not have believed the war was coming, but has eagerly exploited Putin’s “special military operation” as an opportunity to implement restrictive measures and assert full control over society.

By attacking another European country, Putin crossed a line drawn after World War II—and changed the world. But he also changed Russia, from a functioning autocracy into a Stalinesque dictatorship, a country characterized by violent repression, inscrutable arbitrariness, and a massive brain drain. While the fortunes of Ukraine, Europe, and the rest of the world after the shooting stops remain to be seen, the outcome for Russia is all too obvious: a future as dark as its darkest past.

Nina L. Khrushcheva, professor of international affairs at The New School, is the co-author (with Jeffrey Tayler), most recently, of “In Putin’s Footsteps: Searching for the Soul of an Empire Across Russia’s 11 Time Zones” (St. Martin’s Press, 2019). She is the great-granddaughter of Nikita Khrushchev.

More at https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/putin-decision-to-invade-
ukraine-will-destroy-russia-by-nina-l-khrushcheva-2022-03

Download for free Nina Khrushcheva's two books from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.day/search.php?req=Khrushcheva

In Putin's footsteps: searching for the soul of an empire across Russia's eleven time zones can be downloaded from the Cloudflare link at
https://libgen.unblockit.day/libraryp2/main/E2CCAF5AE9ADF9EA9C637A05EA
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(might have to click more than once if you get Error: LibGen seems to be down)

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Friday, April 1, 2022 9:35 AM

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In the second scenario, Ukraine agrees to recognize Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk as Russian territories, enabling the Kremlin’s propaganda machine to churn out stories of “liberated” Ukrainians.

That's the one I told you was going to happen weeks ago. That's IS the one that will happen.

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But, even as the Putin regime claimed victory, Russia would remain a global pariah, with its economy permanently scarred by sanctions, abandoned by hundreds of global companies, and increasingly devoid of young people.

I don't agree with part two. Maybe for a short time period of 6 months to a year. Probably less than that because nobody is going to care about Russia or Ukraine once they're out of the news cycle and the next bullshit story takes everybody's attention away from it.

The young people part doesn't even make any sense. That's just Leftist retard wishful thinking.

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CAPTAINCRUNCH

Friday, April 1, 2022 8:16 PM

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Are you still believing everything you see on CNN and MSNBC?

You should know better by now.

Jack wets himself as usual.

Wet myself.

If I want your opinion, I'll read a mainstream news article.

Jack fills his diaper.

Come over here baby, and I'll shit in your face.

Aww, baby Jack starting to squirm, can't come up with an intelligent response so he goes for shock. It's his go to move when he gets into a tight spot. I think after all these years of being a total a-hole, he's starting to actually realize he is also a complete moron.

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Google it, dumb shit.

Jack says he's so smart and always right but give him a chance to prove it with a simple question, and he runs away. AGAIN. Get a new diaper, son.

Just for fun (since I knew it would make him look even dumber), I *took smarty's advice* and googled, "what's a war crime?" And ya know what? First link from Google was the Wikipedia article I linked to originally. Thanks for proving you're an idiot.

Still... if you want to show us how smart you are... what's a war crime?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, April 1, 2022 8:22 PM

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“Russia isn't reducing Russian troop presence around Kyiv and Chernihiv.
Ukraine is reducing Russian troop presence.”
-- Zelenskyy, March 29th

Russia to 'Drastically' Wind Down Military Presence Near Kyiv, Chernihiv
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/03/29/russia-to-drastically-wind-d
own-military-presence-near-kyiv-chernihiv-a77127

Might be the best post of the thread. Even if in the wrong thread.

SECOND

Friday, April 1, 2022 8:37 PM

Collecting Evidence of Russian War Crimes

Early in March, Mr. Higgins played connect-the-dots with remnants of cluster munitions dropped on Kharkiv.

These weapons hit the ground in three stages, and each piece points back toward the other. From abroad on a computer, Mr. Higgins marked the three points, drew a straight line through them, and repeated the process with nearby impacts. Altogether, he could trace the attacks to a single artillery site – geolocated on a map Bellingcat helped develop – with the right number of launchers, in the right range, pointing in the right direction.

“If we can complete that kind of chain of responsibility, it means it’s a lot easier for accountability processes to actually accuse specific units, governments, and commanders, which is often what’s missing,” he says.

“You have to take a cold, practical approach to this stuff, rooted in the requirements of the law,” he says. Witnesses may have powerful stories about an attack and its effects. But they can rarely help link it to specific perpetrators. In most cases, the law demands proof of knowledge or intent. If Russians bomb a theater, investigators need to show a specific leader ordered it, that it wasn’t near a military target, and that it didn’t house military assets. Without that, they would need to show a leader was aware such abuses were occurring but didn’t stop them.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220331234553/https://www.csmonitor.com/W
orld/2022/0331/How-war-crimes-investigators-do-their-jobs-in-evidence-rich-Ukraine

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, April 3, 2022 2:48 AM

About the OP:
All those words, just to explain that Putin is just another Democrat, lying Intolerant Dictator, which Libtards love.

Just explaining that Putin is copying FDR.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, April 3, 2022 6:33 AM

If you want to see what it looks like when somebody runs away, Cap'n, I invite you to look at the dozens upon dozens of threads that I've started where you say some retarded shit and I obliterate you as I always do and you're never seen in there again.

I'm glad to have you back. I was getting bored of the other two retards, so thanks for mixing things up.

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THG

Saturday, June 17, 2023 10:03 PM

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Kamil Galeev
@kamilkazani
Galina Starovoitova Fellow
@TheWilsonCenter
. MLitt in History, St Andrews. MA in China Studies, Peking University

"Let's discuss Putin speech. He declared Ukrainians to be "Neonazis" and promised to "denazify" them. Indeed the "Nazi" character of Ukrainian statehood and identity has long been a central thesis of Russian propaganda. Let's discuss why and how it reflects ideology of Putinism"

"Why Russia uses it ("nazi")? First, because it's compatible with Russian foundation myth that rulers in Kremlin are saint because once they defeated the Nazi Germany. Ofc they won't tell that it was Kremlin that built up Nazi military might and allied with them on the early stages of WWII"

WWII - Russian Front

Stalin expected that Hitler might attack. But he believed that Soviet army was strong enough to repel them quickly. On paper he had much more tanks, guns, planes. So when Hitler did attack on June 22, 1941, Stalin was calm. He ordered his troops to beat them off and counterattack

For a few days he believed the plan is working. And you know why? Nobody dared to tell him it's not. So he was calm and content, everything working perfectly.

< Gee, that sounds familiar! That's probably why Putin's butt cheeks are still clenched. He recalled how Stalin had beem lied to just as he has been in Ukraine >

Only on June 29, a week after the war started he learnt that Minsk has fallen. That meant the road on Moscow is open

How was it possible? Minsk was covered by the strongest army USSR had, the Western Front, administered by the Belarus Military District. Stalin called the People's Commissariat (=Ministry) of Defence and asked what is the situation on the Western Front. They couldn't say anything

Stalin was alarmed. He ordered Molotov, Malenkov, Beriya and Mikoyan to get into car and they all drove to the Comissariat. Stalin told to connect him with the Belarus Military District. Zhukov told there's no connection. And Stalin realised the Western Army doesn't exist anymore

He yelled at Zhukov so hard, that Zhukov ran out to another room and wept. When Politburo members left the Comissariat, Stalin told:

- Lenin left us the great state and we wasted it

Stalin left to his dacha alone

Politburo members divided. Voznesensky said that if Stalin doesn't care , then Molotov should lead the state. Molotov refused. They all went to Stalin's dacha. Stalin looked very badly and asked why did they come. Mikoyan thought - Stalin feared that they came to arrest him

Molotov said they must form a Defence Committee to run the country. And Stalin should lead it:

- Ok - said Stalin. He looked surprised

On July 6 chief of Soviet military intelligence general-lieutenant Golikov departed to London to discuss coordination of efforts in this war

Thus the USSR allied with the US and the UK. USA organised lend lease: enormous military help in food, in fuel, in vehicles, in armament. They supplied Soviet Army for the entire war. Otherwise USSR would lose, its supply chains being disrupted by the German advance

In the course of the war the narrative changed again. Now nobody would admit that the USSR wanted the war, that it built up the German military machine as an ice-breaker against the West. No, the USSR was peaceful, consistently anti-Nazi, the force of light against the darkness

It was a lie but a convenient lie. The alliance would be diffucult if Western powers admitted the truth: that the Soviets were purposefully building up the German military machine and de facto allied with Hitler in 1939-1931 dividing Eastern Europe together. So the West bought it

That's how a myth of the anti-Nazi USSR was borne. It was recognised by the West which didn't want to question the role of its allies in building up the Nazi military machine.

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JAYNEZTOWN

Monday, December 11, 2023 9:20 PM

Dictatorship, Ultra-nationalists, oligarchy, autocrat...but I'm not sure Germanic Nazi is the correct term

Canada boosts Ukraine’s defense with rifles and ammo

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/11/24/canada-boosts-ukraines-defense-
with-rifles-and-ammo/