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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 4:56 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

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... they will die early, as will Trump, because Death comes early for the crazy.

Trump's 75. It's a bit late for him to have an early death.

Your posts are getting more and more bizarre, like the one where you sententiously (used in the pejorative sense) claimed Trump will die. Of course he will. We all will.

We used to have a joke about those kind of statements. We'd call them "the lampshade is red" statements, said with all the serious sanctimoniousness one can muster.

You OK? Having an evolving stroke now? Or had one recently?

As a 75 year old, Trump has to live another 11.2 years or else he will have died early. Check out "Table 15. Life expectancy at birth, at age 65, and at age 75, by sex, race, and Hispanic origin: United States, selected years 1900–2016"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2017/015.pdf

The way Trump lives, I don't think he has 11.2 years more left in life. The next time, Walter Reed Medical Center won't be available to pull Trump back from the brink of death when he catches a disease that he would not catch if he hadn't acted like a complete fool. Trump’s Chief Of Staff Feared President Was Going To Die When He Had Covid was a recent headline.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/06/24/trumps-chief-of-s
taff-feared-president-was-going-to-die-when-he-had-covid-new-book-alleges
/

1kiki, if you were really an American, you would know about the long life of other Americans. On the other hand, if you were a Russian Troll, a country where white males die young, then 75 year old Trump seems like he lived a very long time. At this moment, a Russian male will live to be 68.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.MA.IN?locations=RU

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 5:03 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The beautiful thing about the Democrats forcing everything to a head is that only one of us can be right.

We'll see who's crazy buddy.

For a few weeks in 1992, U.S. politics were all about “family values.” President George H.W. Bush was in electoral trouble because of a weak economy and rising inequality. So his vice president, Dan Quayle, tried to change the subject by a crazy attack on Murphy Brown, a character in a TV sitcom, an unmarried woman who chose to have a child.

I was reminded of that incident when I read about recent crazy remarks by J.D. Vance, the author of “Hillbilly Elegy,” who is now a Republican Senate candidate in Ohio. Vance noted that some prominent Democrats don’t have children, and he lashed out at the “childless left.” He also praised the policies of Viktor Orban, the leader of Hungary, whose government is subsidizing couples who have children, and asked, “Why can’t we do that here?”

As The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel, who was there, pointed out, it was odd that Vance didn’t mention Joe Biden’s newly instituted child tax credit, which will make an enormous difference to many poorer families with children.

It was also interesting that he praised Hungary rather than other European nations with strong pronatalist policies. France, in particular, offers large financial incentives to families with children and has one of the highest fertility rates in the advanced world. So why did crazy Vance single out for praise a repressive, autocratic government with a strong white nationalist bent?

That was a rhetorical question.

More about how crazy Republicans are at https://web.archive.org/web/20210727013349/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/07/26/opinion/child-tax-credit-family-values.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 5:35 PM


Interestingly, there's a definition for "early death" aka "premature mortality".

I was going to post it - and the link - but you won't read it.

And yes, Trump's old enough that no mater when he dies from now on, it's too late to call it an early death.

Speaking of nationality, are you a US citizen yet? Have you figured out the Constitution - yanno, electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and all those Constitutional specifics that as a natural born US citizen I cherish and abide by, but which you hate?

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 5:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Interestingly, there's a definition for "early death" aka "premature mortality".

I was going to post it - and the link - but you won't read it.

And yes, Trump's old enough that no mater when he dies from now on, it's too late to call it an early death.

Speaking of nationality, are you a US citizen yet? Have you figured out the Constitution - yanno, electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and all those Constitutional specifics that as a natural born US citizen I cherish and abide by, but which you hate?

You really are a Russian Troll, 1kiki. And hurry with that promised link.

To repeat: As a 75 year old, Trump has to live another 11.2 years or else he will have died early. Check out "Table 15. Life expectancy at birth, at age 65, and at age 75, by sex, race, and Hispanic origin: United States, selected years 1900–2016"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/hus/2017/015.pdf

The way Trump lives, I don't think he has 11.2 years more left in life. The next time, Walter Reed Medical Center won't be available to pull Trump back from the brink of death when he catches a disease that he would not catch if he hadn't acted like a complete fool. Trump’s Chief Of Staff Feared President Was Going To Die When He Had Covid was a recent headline.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrewster/2021/06/24/trumps-chief-of-s
taff-feared-president-was-going-to-die-when-he-had-covid-new-book-alleges
/

1kiki, if you were really an American, you would know about the long life of other Americans. On the other hand, if you were a Russian Troll, a country where white males die young, then 75 year old Trump seems like he lived a very long time. At this moment, a Russian male will live to be 68.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.LE00.MA.IN?locations=RU

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:23 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The beautiful thing about the Democrats forcing everything to a head is that only one of us can be right.

We'll see who's crazy buddy.

For a few weeks in 1992, U.S. politics were all about “family values.” President George H.W. Bush was in electoral trouble because of a weak economy and rising inequality. So his vice president, Dan Quayle, tried to change the subject by a crazy attack on Murphy Brown, a character in a TV sitcom, an unmarried woman who chose to have a child.

I was reminded of that incident when I read about recent crazy remarks by J.D. Vance, the author of “Hillbilly Elegy,” who is now a Republican Senate candidate in Ohio. Vance noted that some prominent Democrats don’t have children, and he lashed out at the “childless left.” He also praised the policies of Viktor Orban, the leader of Hungary, whose government is subsidizing couples who have children, and asked, “Why can’t we do that here?”

As The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel, who was there, pointed out, it was odd that Vance didn’t mention Joe Biden’s newly instituted child tax credit, which will make an enormous difference to many poorer families with children.

It was also interesting that he praised Hungary rather than other European nations with strong pronatalist policies. France, in particular, offers large financial incentives to families with children and has one of the highest fertility rates in the advanced world. So why did crazy Vance single out for praise a repressive, autocratic government with a strong white nationalist bent?

That was a rhetorical question.

More about how crazy Republicans are at https://web.archive.org/web/20210727013349/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/07/26/opinion/child-tax-credit-family-values.html


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Stay on topic.



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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:39 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Stay on topic.

The topic is "A thread for Democrats Only", but 1kiki threw in random ideas:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Speaking of nationality, are you a US citizen yet? Have you figured out the Constitution - yanno, electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and all those Constitutional specifics that as a natural born US citizen I cherish and abide by, but which you hate?

1kiki's "innocent until proven guilty" is of interest to Trump in his tax evasion. The IRS wants Trump to pay back taxes, while jailing him is of far less importance to the IRS. The IRS will probably take Trump to Civil court, rather than criminal court. Why? The courts have held the due process clauses of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments also ensure that you will not be convicted of a crime unless the prosecutor proves that you are guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt.” This high burden of proof in criminal cases is closely related to the presumption of innocence, ensuring you receive a fair trial.

In civil cases, such as Trump not paying his taxes, the standard is much lower. In such cases, the standard of proof is “preponderance of the evidence.” This generally means the jury believes it is more likely than not that the defendant did what the other side says they did . . . TRUMP DID NOT PAY HIS TAXES.

In civil trials, Trump has to show he paid his taxes. The IRS only has to show Trump did not pay. There is none of the nonsense that happens in Criminal trials about whether Trump is crazy, or sane enough to stand trial, or what his intentions were when he signed his Form 1040. Getting Trump to pay or his corporations to pay back taxes is all mathematics, and pretty simple math, too!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 6:51 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Stay on topic.

The topic is "A thread for Democrats Only"



I don't care what the thread title is.

If you quote me, stay on topic.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I don't care what the thread title is.

If you quote me, stay on topic.

Are you upset? Yes, you are, despite you saying I can't upset you. Trump voters are snowflakes. It's easy to shatter their calm.

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61954&mid=11380
76#1138076


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:24 PM


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00018031.htm

Here ya' go. But I think you're too stupid to read it. Certainly you're too stupid to find it, even though I gave you the search terms to use.

Meanwhile, have you decided to accept the Constitution as the US law of the land yet? I know you've been extremely adverse to many of its provisions ... electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and such like. Is that your foreign culture coming through? Or just your personality?

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 11:08 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00018031.htm

Here ya' go. But I think you're too stupid to read it. Certainly you're too stupid to find it, even though I gave you the search terms to use.

Meanwhile, have you decided to accept the Constitution as the US law of the land yet? I know you've been extremely adverse to many of its provisions ... electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and such like. Is that your foreign culture coming through? Or just your personality?

1kiki, you are referring to "Trends in Years of Potential Life Lost Before Age 65 (YPLL-65) Among Whites and Blacks -- United States, 1979-1989"

Let me quote half of one line to give you a clue about what is wrong about this paper for the purpose you are trying to use it for, which is proving that Trump, at 75, has already outlived the average American lifetime:
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From 1979 to 1989, the rate of YPLL-65 (per 1000 population) decreased for white males (from 76.3 to 65.3 [14.4%]).


Translation into English: In 1979, 1,000 white males lost 76.3 years of life because of unintentional injuries, heart disease, malignant neoplasms, homicide, suicide and HIV infection.

Besides not being relevant, 1kiki, the paper is from November 27, 1992. You wasted your time, 1kiki, with this old paper that is not even about how long the average American lives. Instead, use Table 015: Life expectancy at birth, at age 65, and at age 75, by sex, race, and Hispanic origin: United States, selected years 1900–2016
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/hus/contents2017.htm#015

If Trump dies before 2033, twelve years from now, he is dying before his time. By the way, he came close to death from Covid-19, but the White House staff forced him into the helicopter, which flew to Walter Reed Medical Center. Next time, the decision will not be made by the White House staff. Maybe Trump will end up dead because he is stupid.
https://time.com/5895780/president-donald-trumps-hospitalized-covid/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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