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Wednesday, July 28, 2021 2:05 AM


You only think the link is meaningless because you're lazy or inept or both.

The concept and calculations from that link are referenced everywhere - from governments trying to figure out what kills young people nationally, to health experts trying to figure out the global state of health of a country and/ or compare it to other countries, to insurance companies trying to calculate the loss of income due to an early death, to disease experts trying to figure out shortened lifespans due to specific diseases, and even by statisticians trying to figure out COVID-19's mortality.

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https://www.healthypeople.gov/2020/about/foundation-health-measures/Ge
neral-Health-Status

Healthy People 2020 tracks healthy life expectancy using 3 measures ...
YPLL (years of potential life lost) is based on the number of deaths at each age up to some limit. For example, in the United States, the age limit is often placed at 75, so people who die before age 75 are defined as having lost some potential years of life.

Which still means NOT TRUMP.
Quote:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28919116/ Global, regional, and national age-sex specific mortality for 264 causes of death, 1980-2016: a systematic analysis for the Global Burden of Disease Study 2016
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https://www.cdc.gov/injury/wisqars/fatal_help/index.html Web-based Injury Statistics Query and Reporting System (WISQARS™) Fatal Injury Reports Help Menu


This is but a small sampling of what one can find if one knows how to 'google'.


So, how are you getting along with the US Constitution (the document, not the battleship) these days? Still railing against those foreign concepts ... electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and such like?

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Wednesday, July 28, 2021 5:19 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

This is but a small sampling of what one can find if one knows how to 'google'.


So, how are you getting along with the US Constitution (the document, not the battleship) these days? Still railing against those foreign concepts ... electoral college, innocent until proven guilty, freedom of speech, and such like?

1kiki, I knew plenty of dead Trumptards who behave as if being stupid does not kill. There were fat Trumptards, fat like Trump, who are dead because they were fat. Then there are dead Trumptard who are dead because they won't get vaccinated. Then there are dead Trumptards who are dead because they kept a gun around the house for personal protection. It is not just that dead Trumptards were stupid to vote for Trump, but Trumptards are stupid about everything, which then killed them. I know Trumptards do their very best to not understand the connection between living stupidly and dying before their time. 1kiki, you are doing are great job of not understanding. You are very lucky to have lived as long as you have.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, July 28, 2021 5:24 AM


So, you can't talk about the topic of "early death'? You can't talk about the US Constitution? All you can do is launch vitriolic personal attacks?

Is your mind so empty? Your humanity so bankrupt?



SLOPPY - why do you never start any threads of your own but instead spend 100% of your time crapping up everyone else's? Is it because you really have NOTHING you want to discuss and are only here to troll?


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Wednesday, July 28, 2021 8:25 AM

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Originally posted by second:Trump voters are snowflakes. It's easy to shatter their calm.


Snowflakes?

I think uv them az rabid apes. Thoze that I no in RL can be launched into a tantrum with a few simple wordz agenst Trump.

And its not like sum sort uv hynoticly implanted trigger fraze that haz to be exactly rite. You can assemble your sentens from virtually the entire common vocabulary to point out sumthing frum hiz ever expanding rap sheet. Usually you wont even finish the sentens befor the vitriol and spittle start flying.

Another few months and it will only take 'the' to ignite them.

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Wednesday, July 28, 2021 4:12 PM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

So, you can't talk about the topic of "early death'? You can't talk about the US Constitution?

Banning Jim Jordan Saved the House Investigation. For the first time in years, there was no deranged counter-narrative being interjected every five minutes.

The first hearing of the January 6 Select Committee contained harrowing accounts from four law enforcement officers about the physical, emotional, and racial abuse they suffered that day — and served as an indictment of Republicans who have spent recent months trying to downplay the insurrection and deflect criticism.

One of the main themes of Tuesday’s hearing was that the January 6 attack on the Capitol was a really big deal — one that imperils the future of American democracy. DC police officer Michael Fanone drove that point home during perhaps the most memorable moment of the proceedings, pounding on a table as he alluded to the disinterest of GOP leadership like House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who is boycotting the committee: “The indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful,” he said.

“Nothing has prepared me to address those elected members of our government who continue to deny the events of that day and in doing so betray their oath of office,” Fanone added.

Fanone, who like the other officers was appearing in his personal capacity, later detailed how he was beaten unconscious by rioters and pleaded for his life by telling them, “I’ve got kids!”

Rep. Jim Banks (R-IN), went on Fox News as soon as Tuesday’s hearing ended and shrugged it off as “scripted by Nancy Pelosi.”

While Republicans like Banks have sought to shift the focus from how Trump and his supporters encouraged the insurrection to law enforcement failures that contributed to the Capitol being overrun, the officers who testified on Tuesday linked Trump’s rhetoric to the unrest. They urged the select committee to focus on the bigger picture.

“The rioters that attempted to reach the Capitol were shouting, ‘Trump sent us,’” said US Capitol Police Sgt. Aquilino Gonell: “I recall thinking to myself, ‘This is how I’m gonna die.’”

More at https://www.vox.com/2021/7/27/22596347/january-6-committee-hearing-gon
ell-fanone-hodges-dull


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 31, 2021 2:39 AM

My god...

Something intelligent finally oozes out of Pelosi's mouth...

"Suppose your [...] child just decided at this time they [do] not want to go to college, but you're paying taxes to forgive somebody else's obligations. You may not be happy about that," Pelosi said.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/joe-biden-cant-cancel-federal-
student-debt-nancy-pelosi-says/ar-AAMHHSU


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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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Saturday, July 31, 2021 4:20 AM


I think the answer for that is simple: a low-interest government loan program to pay off the ridiculous private student loan debt. The government makes money, and the people in debt get out from under more easily. And everyone is happy, except the lender-leeches. But hey, if they haven't lost actual money, they should be happy, too.

(That's exactly the same way I think the government should have addressed the 2008 collapse. Fix the underlying mortgages instead of making the 10,000x leveraged pyramid of lenders whole.)

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Saturday, July 31, 2021 5:27 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

(That's exactly the same way I think the government should have addressed the 2008 collapse. Fix the underlying mortgages instead of making the 10,000x leveraged pyramid of lenders whole.)

You can’t know if a policy was worthwhile if you don’t know how much it costs. Ask three people their opinion of the U.S. government’s bailouts during the 2008 financial crisis, and you’ll likely get three different answers.

The total direct cost of crisis-related bailouts on a fair value basis was about $498 billion, which amounted to 3.5 percent of gross domestic product in 2009.

https://mitsloan.mit.edu/ideas-made-to-matter/heres-how-much-2008-bail
outs-really-cost


Cost (Billions) Institution
$311 Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac
$90 Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP)
$60 Federal Housing Authority (FHA)
$21 Federal Reserve
$10 Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC)
$6 Small Business Lending Fund (SBLF)
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$498 Billions Total

Source: Deborah J. Lucas. MIT Sloan School of Management

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, July 31, 2021 6:34 AM


One thing to know for a fact - unleveraged money is always cheaper than leveraged money.

And in the meantime, all while shoring up financialism, roughly 10 MILLION homeowners lost their homes. https://www.marketplace.org/2018/12/17/what-we-learned-housing/

All that could have been avoided at reduced cost if the government had directly provided alternative mortgages.

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Saturday, July 31, 2021 7:55 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

One thing to know for a fact - unleveraged money is always cheaper than leveraged money.

And in the meantime, all while shoring up financialism, roughly 10 MILLION homeowners lost their homes. https://www.marketplace.org/2018/12/17/what-we-learned-housing/

All that could have been avoided at reduced cost if the government had directly provided alternative mortgages.

The deal is that there are about 80 million single family houses in America and about 70 million of those homeowners objected to helping, either with their own money or with government money, the 10 million homeowners who lost their homes, which is why the American government did not, cannot, and will not in future help. That 70 million would be confused and angry that they are not getting at least as much help as the 10 million who really need it, which is why no homeowners got help.

On the other hand, the politicians were being told loud and clear that Armageddon had arrived TODAY by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), Federal Housing Authority (FHA), Federal Reserve, Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC), Small Business Lending Fund (SBLF).

That's why totally focused Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac got help while confused, unfocused, disorganized homeowners got nothing.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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