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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 10:57 AM
He's none of that.
He's the best president since Reagan at least.
Trump landslide in November.
Biden gets destroyed tomorrow night. Let's see how the Democrats and Legacy Media deal with that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 5:17 PM
Quote:Trump has hundreds of millions in personal debt. He does not have the resources to repay it, since his business is losing money.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's none of that.
He's the best president since Reagan at least.
Trump landslide in November.
Biden gets destroyed tomorrow night. Let's see how the Democrats and Legacy Media deal with that.
Personal financial trouble has always been a red flag when it comes to filling sensitive government positions, because it’s an open invitation to corruption.
So the confirmation that the nation’s chief law enforcement and national security official — whose business empire already offers many opportunities for undue influence — is drowning in debt is chilling.
Beyond that, analysts of business finance have long known that high levels of debt, enough to pose a substantial risk of bankruptcy, create destructive incentives. Instead of investing in the future, the owners of highly indebted businesses are tempted to engage in asset stripping, getting the money out before the creditors stake their claims.
Owners of debt-hobbled businesses are also tempted to take big risks, even at bad odds, because if they get lucky, they might save themselves; if they don’t, it’s someone else’s problem. Heads they win, tails the creditors lose.
So now we have a deeply indebted business owner with every incentive to engage in malfeasance — except that in addition to running his business, he’s running the United States of America.
But he may be about to lose that special position, and whatever financial defense it may provide.
Think about that. Also think about the fact that Trump constantly complains about almost nonexistent voter fraud — he has never accepted the fact that he lost the popular vote four years ago — and that he has repeatedly refused to say that he will accept election results if he loses.
More at www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/opinion/trump-taxes-debt.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 6:49 PM
Trump is the worst president in all of history, and his record proves it.
I thought we could never go lower than the Bushes, but I was clearly wrong.
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Tuesday, September 29, 2020 7:25 PM
Quote:I think you are placing too much blame on Trump. Trump has always been a dirt bag for as long as I've known about him. I would place the blame on Republican voters who chose Trump in the primary and will vote for him again in 2020. They knew what he was. His obviously defective way of life and business was why they picked him. There is a nice article about what kind of people are Trump voters. I've had to deal with these crooked people for 68 years. In Trump they found somebody as defective as themselves, while Bush II wasn't close enough to what they wanted.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump is the worst president in all of history, and his record proves it.
I thought we could never go lower than the Bushes, but I was clearly wrong.
Democrats Need to Wake Up: The Trump Movement Is Shot Through With Fascism
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/27/trump-supporters-fascism-election/
In order to win this presidential contest, liberals need to accept that Trump supporters do not care if he were to scrap millions of mail-in votes or to welcome, and even solicit, Russian interference for his cause. Not only do some Trump supporters understand that he is an autocrat who will cheat the rules to stay in power, that’s precisely what they like about him. The left should understand that many Trump supporters inherently believe that they would fare better under an autocratic system of white supremacy than under a multiracial democracy.
History, here, is telling. Historical comparisons should not be thrown around haphazardly or promiscuously, but this careful comparison between the past and the present needs to be made. One of historians’ most confounding tasks has been to explain what made supposedly honorable, civilized Germans actively participate in the killing of millions of people. In his seminal, if hotly debated, book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust,” Daniel Jonah Goldhagen disputes all the myths that historians previously offered to explain Germans’ willing participation in such an atrocity.
Goldhagen debunks the explanation of situational pressure, that hard times rendered Germans incapable of saying no. He disproves the myth of sheer self-interest, that ordinary Germans were just trying to get by. He dismisses the theory of bureaucratic myopia, that toiling Germans were too busy focusing on the minutia of survival to be aware of the Nazis’ larger systemic killing. He refutes the caricature of cultural predisposition, that Germans were automatons, inclined to mindlessly obey authority. And he dismisses the prevalent impulses to exaggerate the sway of misinformation, that Germans were seduced into submission by Leni Riefenstahl’s magic-making or their führer’s charisma.
Like Goldhagen does with Nazis, we have to avoid pat answers.
Could present Americans participate in slaughtering millions as Germans did? Hardly. And there are no useful comparisons to be made between Hitler’s political methods and Trump’s. Significant differences distinguish the political impacts of the Third Reich versus the Trump administration. This country is no Nazi Germany. But America under Trump demonstrably treads into fascist territory.
Ours is a country where the president can witness 5-million-plus acres burn, millions of residents flee their homes, miles of toxic air blight the sky, blackouts, triple-digit heat waves, and literally not be bothered. We have a leader who knew the deadliness of a virus, lied about his awareness, and still indifferently presides over the subsequent deaths of 200,000 and counting. Even during the country’s bleak distress, Trump supporters — from his cabinet down to ordinary, diehard voters — put his money and their collective political power ahead of human life, undoubtedly a fundamental feature of autocracy.
So I can’t help but reveal how the excuses made on behalf of Nazi-era Germans resemble the collective naïveté — the delusional pass — afforded to roughly 40 percent of our people. America’s democra
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Wednesday, September 30, 2020 2:18 AM
Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I think you are placing too much blame on Trump. Trump has always been a dirt bag for as long as I've known about him. I would place the blame on Republican voters who chose Trump in the primary and will vote for him again in 2020. They knew what he was. His obviously defective way of life and business was why they picked him. There is a nice article about what kind of people are Trump voters. I've had to deal with these crooked people for 68 years. In Trump they found somebody as defective as themselves, while Bush II wasn't close enough to what they wanted.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump is the worst president in all of history, and his record proves it.
I thought we could never go lower than the Bushes, but I was clearly wrong.
Democrats Need to Wake Up: The Trump Movement Is Shot Through With Fascism
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/27/trump-supporters-fascism-election/
In order to win this presidential contest, liberals need to accept that Trump supporters do not care if he were to scrap millions of mail-in votes or to welcome, and even solicit, Russian interference for his cause. Not only do some Trump supporters understand that he is an autocrat who will cheat the rules to stay in power, that’s precisely what they like about him. The left should understand that many Trump supporters inherently believe that they would fare better under an autocratic system of white supremacy than under a multiracial democracy.
History, here, is telling. Historical comparisons should not be thrown around haphazardly or promiscuously, but this careful comparison between the past and the present needs to be made. One of historians’ most confounding tasks has been to explain what made supposedly honorable, civilized Germans actively participate in the killing of millions of people. In his seminal, if hotly debated, book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust,” Daniel Jonah Goldhagen disputes all the myths that historians previously offered to explain Germans’ willing participation in such an atrocity.
Goldhagen debunks the explanation of situational pressure, that hard times rendered Germans incapable of saying no. He disproves the myth of sheer self-interest, that ordinary Germans were just trying to get by. He dismisses the theory of bureaucratic myopia, that toiling Germans were too busy focusing on the minutia of survival to be aware of the Nazis’ larger systemic killing. He refutes the caricature of cultural predisposition, that Germans were automatons, inclined to mindlessly obey authority. And he dismisses the prevalent impulses to exaggerate the sway of misinformation, that Germans were seduced into submission by Leni Riefenstahl’s magic-making or their führer’s charisma.
Like Goldhagen does with Nazis, we have to avoid pat answers.
Could present Americans participate in slaughtering millions as Germans did? Hardly. And there are no useful comparisons to be made between Hitler’s political methods and Trump’s. Significant differences distinguish the political impacts of the Third Reich versus the Trump administration. This country is no Nazi Germany. But America under Trump demonstrably treads into fascist territory.
Ours is a country where the president can witness 5-million-plus acres burn, millions of residents flee their homes, miles of toxic air blight the sky, blackouts, triple-digit heat waves, and literally not be bothered. We have a leader who knew the deadliness of a virus, lied about his awareness, and still indifferently presides over the subsequent deaths of 200,000 and counting. Even during the country’s bleak distress, Trump supporters — from his cabinet down to ordinary, diehard voters — put his money and their collective political power ahead of human life, undoubtedly a fundamental feature of autocracy.
So I can’t help but reveal how the excuses made on behalf of Nazi-era Germans resemble the collective naïveté — the delusional pass — afforded to roughly 40NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME