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Quote:Give them until November 5th, when all the backlogged Real News gets reported.4002
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump in action is fucking awesome.
Feel free to leave my country on November 4th. You won't be missed.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Give them until November 5th, when all the backlogged Real News gets reported.4002
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump in action is fucking awesome.
Feel free to leave my country on November 4th. You won't be missed.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
You know they won't move. They say they will every time and yet here we are.
They won't all move to California and seceded from the Union either, which would be a nice consolation prize if it ever happened.
It would be nice to live in any of the alternate timelines where either of these things actually did happen.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Are you still feeding these Trolls?4001
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
Not even going to give CNN the ad clicks to find out about whatever story you're making up right now.
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Guilty.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump in action is fucking awesome.
Feel free to leave my country on November 4th. You won't be missed.
And go where?!? Trump’s cluster f@ckery - beating COVID by drinking Lysol and lying, has made it so even “shit countries” won’t let Americans travel to them. How is that possible if Trump has done such a great job?
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The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90%
At every income level up to the 90th percentile, wage earners are now being paid a fraction of what they would have had inequality held constant. For example, at the median individual income of $36,000, workers are being shortchanged by $21,000 a year—$28,000 when using the CPI—an amount equivalent to an additional $10.10 to $13.50 an hour.
There are some who blame the current plight of working Americans on structural changes in the underlying economy—on automation, and especially on globalization. According to this popular narrative, the lower wages of the past 40 years were the unfortunate but necessary price of keeping American businesses competitive in an increasingly cutthroat global market. But in fact, the $50 trillion transfer of wealth the RAND report documents has occurred entirely within the American economy, not between it and its trading partners. No, this upward redistribution of income, wealth, and power wasn’t inevitable; it was a choice—a direct result of the trickle-down policies we chose to implement since 1975.
We chose to cut taxes on billionaires and to deregulate the financial industry. We chose to allow CEOs to manipulate share prices through stock buybacks, and to lavishly reward themselves with the proceeds. We chose to permit giant corporations, through mergers and acquisitions, to accumulate the vast monopoly power necessary to dictate both prices charged and wages paid.
More at https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump in action is fucking awesome.
Feel free to leave my country on November 4th. You won't be missed.
And go where?!? Trump’s cluster f@ckery - beating COVID by drinking Lysol and lying, has made it so even “shit countries” won’t let Americans travel to them. How is that possible if Trump has done such a great job?
I don't care where you go, dude.
Borrow a conservative buddy's gun and take a one way trip to Heaven.
Just get the fuck out of here is all.
Maybe St. Peter will finally let you cash in on all those worthless virtue signalling points.
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Quote:Professor of Fake News and Antifag explains here that NEW JERSEY is a Red State.
Originally posted:
Last GOP Senator served in 1979. Was Bot even unaborted by then?
Last Presidential Election went to GOP in 1988.
Congressional Representatives are 10 Libtards and 2 Republicans.
As always, Professor Bot is perpetually wrong.
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lol @ Jersey being a red state. That's funny.
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I don't know that I consider myself a democrat, but these days I am definitely anti-republican, I like science too much, I guess.
I wouldn't even bother with "Independant"
because there is no point to be a part of a perennially losing party that doesn't clearly stand for anything.
I think I am for sure a card carrying member of the "people of both parties piss me off".
I wish there were more options, I think it would be healthier for the country as well.
If there ever is a "Science and Education" party, let me know...
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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The Top 1% of Americans Have Taken $50 Trillion From the Bottom 90%
At every income level up to the 90th percentile, wage earners are now being paid a fraction of what they would have had inequality held constant. For example, at the median individual income of $36,000, workers are being shortchanged by $21,000 a year—$28,000 when using the CPI—an amount equivalent to an additional $10.10 to $13.50 an hour.
There are some who blame the current plight of working Americans on structural changes in the underlying economy—on automation, and especially on globalization. According to this popular narrative, the lower wages of the past 40 years were the unfortunate but necessary price of keeping American businesses competitive in an increasingly cutthroat global market. But in fact, the $50 trillion transfer of wealth the RAND report documents has occurred entirely within the American economy, not between it and its trading partners. No, this upward redistribution of income, wealth, and power wasn’t inevitable; it was a choice—a direct result of the trickle-down policies we chose to implement since 1975.
We chose to cut taxes on billionaires and to deregulate the financial industry. We chose to allow CEOs to manipulate share prices through stock buybacks, and to lavishly reward themselves with the proceeds. We chose to permit giant corporations, through mergers and acquisitions, to accumulate the vast monopoly power necessary to dictate both prices charged and wages paid.
More at https://time.com/5888024/50-trillion-income-inequality-america/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
It's both. These two ideas aren't mutually exclusive.
You're an idiot if you think that paying 10 to 20 people to work all year long in a foreign country where there are no humanitarian or environmental regulation for the same salary that you'd pay one person here is something that these people wouldn't do, then I suggest you take a look around you. Because that's the world we're living in.
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Quote:What percent of Americans' income is from manufacturing, which can be moved out of the country? 11.39%. In the worst case, when all manufacturing is done in Mongolia, the ex-factory workers bring home 0.00 dollars and unemployment increases by 12.8 million people.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's both. These two ideas aren't mutually exclusive.
You're an idiot if you think that paying 10 to 20 people to work all year long in a foreign country where there are no humanitarian or environmental regulation for the same salary that you'd pay one person here is something that these people wouldn't do, then I suggest you take a look around you. Because that's the world we're living in.
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www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-united-states-manufacturing-
facts/
That still leaves $50 trillion that your friendly payday loan company scooped up at 700% interest from people working at Burger King and Amazon warehouses. Those jobs can't move to Mongolia. That is life for half of everybody in America, for 165,000,000 people. You might notice that 165 million is much larger than the number of people depending on a factory job to pay their bills.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=vSnO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:As always, your inability to understand English does you in. Fat boy is a Republican who was hypercritical of Obama, until of course, he needed his help.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Professor of Fake News and Antifag explains here that NEW JERSEY is a Red State.
Originally posted:
Last GOP Senator served in 1979. Was Bot even unaborted by then?
Last Presidential Election went to GOP in 1988.
Congressional Representatives are 10 Libtards and 2 Republicans.
As always, Professor Bot is perpetually wrong.
Also, NJ is traditionally a swing state. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_New_Jersey
I wouldn't expect a Russian troll to know that. You lose, yet again.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:What percent of Americans' income is from manufacturing, which can be moved out of the country? 11.39%. In the worst case, when all manufacturing is done in Mongolia, the ex-factory workers bring home 0.00 dollars and unemployment increases by 12.8 million people.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's both. These two ideas aren't mutually exclusive.
You're an idiot if you think that paying 10 to 20 people to work all year long in a foreign country where there are no humanitarian or environmental regulation for the same salary that you'd pay one person here is something that these people wouldn't do, then I suggest you take a look around you. Because that's the world we're living in.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.nam.org/state-manufacturing-data/2019-united-states-manufacturing-
facts/
That still leaves $50 trillion that your friendly payday loan company scooped up at 700% interest from people working at Burger King and Amazon warehouses. Those jobs can't move to Mongolia. That is life for half of everybody in America, for 165,000,000 people. You might notice that 165 million is much larger than the number of people depending on a factory job to pay their bills.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=vSnO
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
It's not just manufacturing (and those numbers are bullshit, BTW) The tech industry that was thriving in the late 90's and early 2000's is just a memory now too. With the internet it was infinitely easier and more cost effective to outsource all of those jobs.
Let's not forget that automation has rendered 50% of the jobs that people used to do not even necessary anymore too.
And when women were forced into the workforce, the labor pool increased over 100% overnight and now a vast majority of households require two incomes to stay afloat.
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't care where you go, dude.
I didn't ask you if you cared, sh*t-for-brains, I said where? Your butt buddy has been f*cking up this country so bad no one will let us in. Or hadn't you heard that? As long as you can go to the sto' and get milk and wonder bread you're good, right?
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Quote:Manufacturing Employment is 12.1 million in August 2020. All Employees, Total Nonfarm is 140.9 million. If all manufacturing went to Mongolia, that ain't that big a deal. But what really hurts America is the $50 trillion that the top 1% stole from the bottom 90%. If somebody stole that amount of money, I wouldn't be reelecting them to the Presidency. By the way, Trump did steal that money from employees and contractors:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It's not just manufacturing (and those numbers are bullshit, BTW) The tech industry that was thriving in the late 90's and early 2000's is just a memory now too. With the internet it was infinitely easier and more cost effective to outsource all of those jobs.
Let's not forget that automation has rendered 50% of the jobs that people used to do not even necessary anymore too.
And when women were forced into the workforce, the labor pool increased over 100% overnight and now a vast majority of households require two incomes to stay afloat.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Trump still owes money to contractors who built Taj Mahal
www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/mike-kelly/2020/01/24/donald
-trump-still-owes-money-to-contractors-who-built-taj-mahal-atlantic-city/4547037002/
Donald Trump casts himself as a protector of workers and jobs, but a USA TODAY NETWORK investigation found hundreds of people – carpenters, dishwashers, painters, even his own lawyers – who say he didn’t pay them for their work.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/09/donald-trump
-unpaid-bills-republican-president-laswuits/85297274/
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=vtyi
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=vfwD
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't care where you go, dude.
I didn't ask you if you cared, sh*t-for-brains, I said where? Your butt buddy has been f*cking up this country so bad no one will let us in. Or hadn't you heard that? As long as you can go to the sto' and get milk and wonder bread you're good, right?
I know right? Trump brags he stopped flights from China to stop the spread of the virus to us. Because he fucked things up so badly the world in now doing that to us.
I add that everything he and some others post here is delusional.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Authoritarianism, Not Just Trump, Is Up for Re-Election
Fear of fascism is no longer alarmist.
By Francis Wilkinson
September 20, 2020, 7:00 AM CDT
According to a new report, the U.S. is undergoing “substantial autocratization” — so much so that only one in five similarly damaged democracies has been able to reverse such decline. President Donald Trump’s administration is consuming democratic capacity at about the same pace that wildfire has been destroying the West. The White House has been a source of lies since Trump’s presidency began. Since his impeachment and acquittal by Senate Republicans, his transgressions have grown more aggressive, while being more aggressively supported by the departments of Justice and Homeland Security — together the equivalent of a mighty Security Ministry — both of which are controlled by men who share Trump’s disregard for rule of law.
Under the direction of Attorney General William Barr and Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf, the state has assumed the form of unidentified men in unmarked vehicles, a hallmark of anti-democratic regimes. Whistle-blowers and protest resignations have become recurring features of both departments. These admirable acts of conscience seek to bring attention to systemic abuses — the corruption of intelligence for political purposes at Homeland Security, and the corruption of law, including favors for friends and vengeance for opponents, at Justice.
But declarations of conscience are not a substitute for rule of law; they are merely proof of its absence. And people of good faith are no match for large bureaucracies severed from ethical norms and lawful rigor.
Fear of fascism was once a luxury political good in the U.S., a fringe obsession rendered trivial by the enduring realities of a stable democracy. The authoritarian drive of the American president — and of the nation’s chief law enforcement officer, with the complicity of most of the Republican Party — has altered that.
In a sign of just how self-aware the assault on democracy is, allies of the president now equate opposition to Trump with the “color revolutions” that swept the post-Soviet sphere. In this understanding of the political moment, Trump is cast in the role of a corrupt, Russian-backed dictator. The forces countering him are the masses who take to the streets clamoring for democracy, accountability and rule of law.
The mass action of a popular election, in the midst of a pandemic that Trump allows to rage, is where these opposing forces will meet in November. It’s entirely unclear how that will play out. In recent weeks, Barr has been a source of falsehoods about voting security, which seem designed to serve as a basis for Trump doing exactly what he has threatened to do: Dispute the results of an election that he is on track to lose. Trump has implied that he will deploy force, and encourage armed supporters to do the same, to cling to power.
. . . a democratic election is poised to counter this authoritarian thrust. How the authoritarians will respond, beyond the sabotage of voting access already under way, is unknown. But the notion that this election will fend off an authoritarian regime is incorrect. That regime is already in place.
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20200920174822/www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a
rticles/2020-09-20/trump-s-running-mate-is-authoritarianism
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Gross.
At least they still call pieces like this Opinions and aren't trying to pass the straight up propaganda as News.
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Quote:Trump and Barr making it perfectly clear that they are both grossly fat:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gross.
After weeks of attacks on BLM by Trump and Barr, 55% of American adults still say they strongly or somewhat support the Black Lives Matter movement. Perhaps not coincidentally, that’s about the same share that consistently voices disapproval of Trump’s presidency.
Barr has made it clear that he shares Trump’s view that this American majority should be neutered. BLM is “not interested in Black lives, they’re interested in props,” Barr said in remarks last week. “A small number of Blacks were killed by police during conflict with police — usually less than a dozen a year — who they can use as props to achieve a much broader political agenda.”
In a previous interview with the virulent right-wing propagandist Mark Levin, Barr suggested what this “broader political agenda” entailed. He described Black Lives Matter as “a revolutionary group that is interested in some form of socialism, communism. They’re essentially Bolsheviks.”
Exaggeration of left-wing violence and the manufacture of nefarious leftist threats is a feature of countries that succumbed to right-wing authoritarianism. “Our nation has been gripped by professional anarchists,” Trump said in June. “Violent mobs, arsonists, looters, criminals, rioters, Antifa and others.” Barr’s own obsession with the confection of left-wing agitation and right-wing myth-making known as “Antifa” is another indicator that his political views are increasingly untethered to democratic reality. “I’ve talked to every police chief in every city where there’s been major violence, and they all have identified Antifa as the ramrod for the violence,” Barr told CNN.
That Trump and Barr harp on Antifa while ignoring the more violent and pervasive terrorism committed by right-wing vigilantes is another discomfiting sign. Elizabeth Neumann, a Trump appointee who served as an assistant secretary for counterterrorism and threat prevention in the Department of Homeland Security before leaving the department in April, said that the Trump administration labeled Antifa as domestic terrorists “for political purposes.”
The ultimate purpose remains opaque. But Barr clearly views the democratic playing field as unfair and conservatives as victims, their righteous claims to power vandalized by secularism’s “unremitting assault on religion and traditional values.” In a speech at the University of Notre Dame last year, he used variations of the word “secular” 21 times to describe the enemy. Those who don’t share Barr’s drive to preserve and extend the most corrupt administration in American history are guilty of pushing the country on a “socialist path” toward certain doom, he says.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Why Trump could possibly end up "behind bars" if he loses
Journalist Jeff Wise examines the type of prosecutions that Trump could face if he loses the presidential election
https://www.salon.com/2020/09/20/why-trump-could-possibly-end-up-behin
d-bars-if-he-loses_partner/
It's at the state level, and in New York especially, where Trump's biggest legal dangers lurk.
Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance, Jr., Wise argues, is "likely to pursue" charges of "falsifying business records."
"Unlike the federal court system, which often allows prisoners to remain free during the appeals process, state courts tend to waste no time in carrying out punishment," Wise explains. "After someone is sentenced in New York City, their next stop is Rikers Island. Once there, as Trump awaited transfer to a state prison, the man who'd treated the presidency like a piggy bank would receive yet another handout at the public expense: a toothbrush and toothpaste, bedding, a towel, and a green plastic cup."
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Why Trump could possibly end up "behind bars" if he loses
Journalist Jeff Wise examines the type of prosecutions that Trump could face if he loses the presidential election
https://www.salon.com/2020/09/20/why-trump-could-possibly-end-up-behin
d-bars-if-he-loses_partner/
It's at the state level, and in New York especially, where Trump's biggest legal dangers lurk.
Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance, Jr., Wise argues, is "likely to pursue" charges of "falsifying business records."
"Unlike the federal court system, which often allows prisoners to remain free during the appeals process, state courts tend to waste no time in carrying out punishment," Wise explains. "After someone is sentenced in New York City, their next stop is Rikers Island. Once there, as Trump awaited transfer to a state prison, the man who'd treated the presidency like a piggy bank would receive yet another handout at the public expense: a toothbrush and toothpaste, bedding, a towel, and a green plastic cup."
Keep your masturbation fan fic on Deviant Art with all of your other weirdo friends.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump and Barr making it perfectly clear that they are both grossly fat:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Gross.
After weeks of attacks on BLM by Trump and Barr, 55% of American adults still say they strongly or somewhat support the Black Lives Matter movement. Perhaps not coincidentally, that’s about the same share that consistently voices disapproval of Trump’s presidency.
Barr has made it clear that he shares Trump’s view that this American majority should be neutered. BLM is “not interested in Black lives, they’re interested in props,” Barr said in remarks last week. “A small number of Blacks were killed by police during conflict with police — usually less than a dozen a year — who they can use as props to achieve a much broader political agenda.”
In a previous interview with the virulent right-wing propagandist Mark Levin, Barr suggested what this “broader political agenda” entailed. He described Black Lives Matter as “a revolutionary group that is interested in some form of socialism, communism. They’re essentially Bolsheviks.”
Exaggeration of left-wing violence and the manufacture of nefarious leftist threats is a feature of countries that succumbed to right-wing authoritarianism. “Our nation has been gripped by professional anarchists,” Trump said in June. “Violent mobs, arsonists, looters, criminals, rioters, Antifa and others.” Barr’s own obsession with the confection of left-wing agitation and right-wing myth-making known as “Antifa” is another indicator that his political views are increasingly untethered to democratic reality. “I’ve talked to every police chief in every city where there’s been major violence, and they all have identified Antifa as the ramrod for the violence,” Barr told CNN.
That Trump and Barr harp on Antifa while ignoring the more violent and pervasive terrorism committed by right-wing vigilantes is another discomfiting sign. Elizabeth Neumann, a Trump appointee who served as an assistant secretary for counterterrorism and threat prevention in the Department of Homeland Security before leaving the department in April, said that the Trump administration labeled Antifa as domestic terrorists “for political purposes.”
The ultimate purpose remains opaque. But Barr clearly views the democratic playing field as unfair and conservatives as victims, their righteous claims to power vandalized by secularism’s “unremitting assault on religion and traditional values.” In a speech at the University of Notre Dame last year, he used variations of the word “secular” 21 times to describe the enemy. Those who don’t share Barr’s drive to preserve and extend the most corrupt administration in American history are guilty of pushing the country on a “socialist path” toward certain doom, he says.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Fuck that polling number psy ops.
The only reason they've even bother bringing it down to near a coin toss is because there's just far too much evidence for anybody to believe it's over 80% support anymore. You goons have been handing out far too many red pills.
Maybe 10%. Maybe.
A staggering win for Trump in November once again should be all of the evidence that you need to see that the polling firms are full of shit. But you didn't learn last time, so I'll just enjoy laughing at your expense for the next 4 years in lieu of expecting that you might actually learn something.
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The NFL learned their lesson pretty fucking quick.
What's your excuse?
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And a completely captive audience who has never been as bored out of their minds as they are in 2020 saw the least watched Emmys EVER.
But keep telling yourself that people are on board with any of this bullshit, and they give a single shit what an actor or an athlete has to say about anything.
You're all a bunch of court jesters. Shut up and dance, monkey.
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“The United States is a white Christian country. Everyone else is here on sufferance.”
There are enough parallels between the Glorious Revolution of 1688 in the UK and the US in 2020 that it is worth some comparison.
Trump has been trying to re-establish a reactionary regime of white Christianity by making use of allegedly unchallengeable Executive authority. Like James II, he is trying to establish a standing army in the form of the Department of Homeland Security (see Portland). And like James II, he is applying loyalty tests across the board to purge every agency he can of those who might oppose his goals, including positions of nonpolitical civil servants.
In both cases, the majority of the population is having none of it, the big difference being that James II probably had less than 20% – maybe less than 10% – support when the chips were down (the military either turned on him or simply stood aside), while Trump probably has between 40% – 45% support. Most notably, the US military command is apparently actively resisting trump’s attempts to use it politically.
As a result, the Glorious Revolution of 1688-89 resulted in very few actual deaths. With the burgeoning of a right-wing Brownshirt movement in the US, as NRA protests have spread to anti-lockdown and anti-mask protests, and anti-BLM vigilantism, that happy result looks unlikely in the US.
Yet another parallel is likely to be what came afterward. In the case of the UK, to prevent the arising of another James II, the populace insisted that the monarchs submit to Parliamentary authority. Should Biden win the Presidency and the Democrats win the Senate, it is likely – it is *necessary* – that we will see a Constitutional push to prevent another Trump from attempting to assert unchecked Presidential authority.
More at https://angrybearblog.com/2020/09/the-us-is-a-white-christian-country-
everyone-else-is-here-on-sufferance.html
As a warning to Trump, I wished James II was executed, but in reality he fled to Ireland. When he deserted to France, James II became known to the Irish as Séamus an Chaca or James the Shit. Trump the Shit seems a fitting name for Donald when he flees to Florida, since he is not welcome back in New York because of his cheating on the state income tax.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_II_of_England#Glorious_Revolution
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You really need to stop using the word "white" as an adjective to negatively modify words that aren't bad.
Not only because you further divide races that were coming together just fine in the 90's and early-to-mid 2000's, but because when you do this you're also lying to yourself.
There are a lot of Black Christians and Hispanic Christians in this country in 2020 too. A lot of them. Some might even argue that since many of them have had harder lives than their White Christian counterparts on average, that their faith is stronger and they're "better" Christians that the whites are on average.
So just like when you try to tear down national pride by calling it "White Nationalism" instead of just saying Nationalism, you modify Christianity as "White Christianity" at your own peril.
This, among quite a few other reasons, is why you're going to see higher black and Hispanic turnout for Trump than any Republican administration than we've seen in the past.
Of course, you're not going to realize that I'm right about this until the demographic breakdown of voting results comes out after November 3rd. And even then, you're going to find other reasons to explain it away.
You will have learned nothing. And you will make the same mistakes the next time.
Your party has gone way too far to the left, and shows no signs of reigning it back in. You might pick up some more suburbanite, "educated" white women who like to virtue signal all day long on Twitter, but you're starting to lose a lot of ground on the minority votes that Democrats have so taken for granted up to this point. These people aren't an easily corralled bloc, and they are all individuals with their own minds and perspectives.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:The Democratic Party is nowhere on "the left" because it is not tackling issues that "the left" cares about: war, peace, jobs, and equality.
Your party has gone way too far to the left
It is an establishment party that is sucking up to the uber-wealthy and dividing the remainder along sex and ethnic lines so that nobody will get together to challenge the established power structure.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The Democratic Party is nowhere on "the left" because it is not tackling issues that "the left" cares about: war, peace, jobs, and equality.
Your party has gone way too far to the left
It is an establishment party that is sucking up to the uber-wealthy and dividing the remainder along sex and ethnic lines so that nobody will get together to challenge the established power structure.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
#WEARAMASK
You're talking about Liberal policies.
I'm making a clear distinction between Liberals and Cringe Fringe Leftists.
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Quote:Democratic party is a centrist party. How can I tell? It rejected Bernie Sanders, twice. If you want those issues tackled, see if you can get the GOP to stop filibustering the Democrats' mild and centrist solutions. You can't? Too bad. You might want to look back at what Trump promised vs delivered.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:The Democratic Party is nowhere on "the left" because it is not tackling issues that "the left" cares about: war, peace, jobs, and equality.
Your party has gone way too far to the left
It is an establishment party that is sucking up to the uber-wealthy and dividing the remainder along sex and ethnic lines so that nobody will get together to challenge the established power structure.
www.google.com/search?q=What+promises+did+Trump+make+in+2016%3F
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Compared to center-right parties in developed democracies, the GOP is dangerously far from normal.
The Republican Supreme Court power grab after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death should be shocking, given the naked hypocrisy involved. The only reason it isn’t is that we’ve come to expect this from Republicans — and not just under Trump.
Republicans shut down the government in the 1990s and impeached President Bill Clinton over far less than what Trump has done in office. Under Obama, they fanned the flames of birtherism, held the global economy hostage to force spending cuts, and elevated obstructionism to the level of governing principle.
At the state level, they have rewritten electoral rules to block Democrats from voting and seized power from Democratic governors after they have won elections. Just this week, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis proposed a bill that would effectively criminalize anti-police violence protests — and protect drivers who ran over protesters with their cars.
This kind of radicalism is not at all normal — at least, when compared to center-right parties in other advanced democracies.
Experts on comparative politics say the GOP is an extremist outlier, no longer belonging in the same conversation with “normal” right-wing parties like Canada’s Conservative Party (CPC) or Germany’s Christian Democratic Party (CDU). Instead, it more closely resembles more extreme right parties — like Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz in Hungary or Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s AKP in Turkey — that have actively worked to dismantle democracy in their own countries.
The Supreme Court saga can’t be considered in isolation. It is symptomatic of a profound brokenness in American politics, one party dragging us away from the developed-world political standards we aspire to and towards a fight over the most basic of democratic principles: whether power should be shared. And that’s a disaster for American democracy.
“The only way we move forward is when Republicans reform, and cease to be an increasingly authoritarian white nationalist party,” says Steven Levitsky, a Harvard professor and the co-author (with Daniel Ziblatt) of How Democracies Die.
The Republican Party really is different. Levitsky’s views are not at all an outlier.
A 2019 survey of nearly 2,000 experts on political parties from around the world asked respondents to rate political parties on two axes: the extent to which they are committed to basic democratic principles and their commitment to protecting rights for ethnic minorities. The higher the number, the more anti-democratic and intolerant the party is.
The following chart shows the results of the survey for all political parties in the OECD, a group of wealthy democratic states, with the two major American parties highlighted in red. The GOP is an extreme outlier compared to mainstream conservative parties in other wealthy democracies, like Canada’s CPC or Germany’s CDU.
Its closest peers are, almost uniformly, radical right and anti-democratic parties. This includes Turkey’s AKP (a regime that is one of the world’s leading jailers of journalists), and Poland’s PiS (which has threatened dissenting judges with criminal punishment). Experts rate the GOP as substantially more hostile to minority rights than Hungary’s Fidesz, an authoritarian party that has made demonization of Muslim immigrants into a pillar of its official ideology.
More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21449634/republicans-supreme-court-gop
-trump-authoritarian
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Originally posted by second:
Democratic party is a centrist party.
De-fuckin-lusional.
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Quote:Here is something about the centrist Democratic Party you did not know: Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has proposed fully funding the Section 8 housing voucher program. It’s extremely well targeted as economic stimulus to give money to families who are sure to spend it. If paired with smart regulatory ideas, it could unleash a real boom in house-building that creates jobs and lays the foundation for future prosperity. 6ix, you'd have to read the details at Vox, which you won't do.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Democratic party is a centrist party.
De-fuckin-lusional.
www.vox.com/the-highlight/21401460/housing-economy-coronavirus-great-r
ebuild
If you read it, you'd say it's Communism, but that only means you are exactly like all the Trump lovers I know.
6ix, have I told you today that you don't know a damn thing that is both important, true, and accurate about the Democrats? But that is the story of nearly every Trump voter I know, except the wealthy, who actually have profitable reasons, not ideological, to vote for him, while despising him as an incompetent executive.
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Quote:Indeed you are.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
De-fuckin-lusional.
Anything an inch to the left of Hitler is radical communism to you. That's because you don't know what words mean. This country has no left to speak of in government.
Progressives like Bernie and AOC would be considered centrists in any other country.
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lol
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This! 
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We Really Do Need A Landslide . . .
. . . because the coup has already begun.
The dictator-ascendant has already announced that the only election outcome he’ll accept as legitimate is his own victory. So he ain’t leaving.
And it just gets scarier from there.
Have you read this Atlantic piece that everyone is talking about? What If Trump Refuses to Concede?
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-con
cede/616424/
Tom and Carl are fine with a dictatorship, just as they are with Trump’s masterful handling of the virus (only 203,000 dead so far!), the debt (largest deficits in history!), the economy (massive unemployment!), climate change (a hoax!), the Russia thing (another hoax! the greatest witch hunt in the history of the country, even though every Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee agrees otherwise), the twenty thousand lies, the Access Hollywood tape, the bone spurs, paying someone else to take his SATs, the bankruptcies, the mod connections, the “losers” and “suckers,” the opinion of Trump’s older sister, the trade wars that have proved so “easy to win” (apologies to the American farmers who’ve committed suicide) . . . they are fine with torch-carrying marchers (many of them “very fine people”), fine with his embrace of journalist-murdering, opposition-leader-poisoning Putin . . . and Putin’s putting bounties on American soldier’s heads . . . fine with journalist-dismembering Mohammed bin Salman . . . I mean, Trump’s just a funny, honest, thoughtful guy, working his tail off not for his own benefit, but, rather, to help America’s average working Joe and Jane who like as not have a pre-existing condition.
Putin is THIS CLOSE to winning the Second Cold War.
We really do need a landslide.
https://andrewtobias.com/we-really-do-need-a-landslide/
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Patriots will stand against Trump's evil. The problem is that the Republicans will, as always, cheat like motherfuckers.
Trump: ‘Get Rid of the Ballots … There Won’t Be a Transfer’ of Power
https://www.reddit.com/r/RepublicanValues/comments/iyn95x/trump_get_ri
d_of_the_ballots_there_wont_be_a/
On Wednesday, a reporter asked President Trump a question no reporter would ever have bothered to ask a president before: “Win, lose, or draw in this election, will you commit here today for a peaceful transferal of power after the election?”
Trump would not commit. “We’re going to have to see what happens,” he said. “We want to get rid of the ballots, and we’ll have a very peaceful — there won’t be a transfer, frankly. There’ll be a continuation.”
Saying the quiet part out loud...
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You're not going to come close to having a landslide, so you better formulate a plan B that doesn't result in you all going to prison.
Have a nice day.
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Saying the quiet part out loud...
On the topic of saying the quiet part out loud...
You're not supposed to say that, Donnie. Even Cuomo isn't on board with you.
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Oh... and good luck with stacking the courts.
If you think everything is insanely politically charged now, just wait until Democrats end up being responsible for the winning party tagging two new Supreme Court Justices every 4 years.
It's hilarious imagining a future where we've got 509 Supreme Court Justices in 3025.
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A list of the times Trump has said he won't accept the election results or leave office if he loses
Trump won't commit to facilitating a peaceful transition of power
1) September 23 news conference: "Well, we're going to have to see what happens. You know that. I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots. And the ballots are a disaster ... We want to have -- get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very trans- -- we'll have a very peaceful -- there won't be a transfer, frankly; there'll be a continuation. The ballots are out of control. You know it," he said.
Trump says the election will be decided at the Supreme Court
2) September 23 Oval Office: "But in terms of time, we go to January 20th. But I think it's better if you go before the election because I think this -- this scam that the Democrats are pulling -- it's a scam -- this scam will be before the United States Supreme Court. And I think having a 4-4 situation is not a good situation, if you get that," he said.
Trump says the way Biden wins is through rigged election
3) September 13 rally: "The Democrats are trying to rig this election because that's the only way they're going to win," he said.
4) August 20 rally: "So this is just a way they're trying to steal the election, and everybody knows that. Because the only way they're going to win is by a rigged election," he said.
Trump floats remaining in office even after two terms
5) August 17 rally: "We are going to win four more years. And then after that, we'll go for another four years because they spied on my campaign. We should get a redo of four years," he said.
6) September 13 rally: "And 52 days from now we're going to win Nevada, and we're going to win four more years in the White House. And then after that, we'll negotiate, right? Because we're probably -- based on the way we were treated -- we are probably entitled to another four after that," he said.
Trump won't commit to accepting election results
7) July 19 "Fox News Sunday" interview: "No. I have to see. Look you -- I have to see. No, I'm not going to just say 'yes.' I'm not going to say 'no.' And I didn't last time, either," he said.
Trump floats delaying the election
8) July 30 tweet: "With Universal Mail-In Voting (not Absentee Voting, which is good), 2020 will be the most INACCURATE & FRAUDULENT Election in history," Trump tweeted. "It will be a great embarrassment to the USA. Delay the Election until people can properly, securely and safely vote???"
www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/trump-election-warnings-leaving-office
/index.html
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He's just trolling you like he always does, because you're easy to troll.
Why do you think he's being honest about those tweets when you're out their claiming he's lied 200,000,000 times in the last four years?
He knows he's going to win and this is all moot.
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Quote:6ix, you are out of mind to say Trump is merely trolling when he says he won't leave the White House, except with a bullet in his brain (just kidding). You might also notice that Trump isn't Lincoln, an elegant speaker, either.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's just trolling you like he always does, because you're easy to troll.
Why do you think he's being honest about those tweets when you're out their claiming he's lied 200,000,000 times in the last four years?
He knows he's going to win and this is all moot.
10 interesting facts about Abraham Lincoln’s assassination
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/10-odd-facts-about-abraham-lincoln
s-assassination
Someday there will be an article at Constitution Center dot org on
"10 interesting facts about Donald Trump’s assassination" (Just kidding. Or maybe not. We'll see, as Trump likes to say.)
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Originally posted by second:
We Really Do Need A Landslide . . .
. . . because the coup has already begun.
The dictator-ascendant has already announced that the only election outcome he’ll accept as legitimate is his own victory. So he ain’t leaving.
And it just gets scarier from there.
Have you read this Atlantic piece that everyone is talking about? What If Trump Refuses to Concede?
www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-con
cede/616424/
Yes. We've known for a while that he will do anything to get another term, and then probably anything to see his children move up or some other hand picked puppet. We know because 1) he's an evil sack of sh*t 2) he told us as much when he said "the Dems are going to try and steal the election!" That's that tactic of "accuse them of what you are going to do." and 3) he has enough support (sick stupid fwads) to make it stick.
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
... Putin is THIS CLOSE to winning the Second Cold War.
I'm guessing Putin has whispered in his ear, "are you going to be a pussy and let them take it away from you? Come on, have some balls - real men take what they want."
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, you are out of mind to say Trump is merely trolling when he says he won't leave the White House, except with a bullet in his brain (just kidding).
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's just trolling you like he always does, because you're easy to troll.
Why do you think he's being honest about those tweets when you're out their claiming he's lied 200,000,000 times in the last four years?
He knows he's going to win and this is all moot.
No. You're not kidding.
You've already alluded to assassination of the President no less than 3 times on this board before, once even saying that you could do it yourself and get away with it.
What's the matter now?
Sounds like somebody is scared.
Don't worry if you've scrubbed it. I already have it archived if anybody wants to take a look at it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I think Trump can be made to behave, but you have to be brutal with him, not polite. There was the example of Trump University, where he said he'd never pay. Then he paid because his opponents were willing to make his life hell in the White House. If the Democrats actively and forcefully make Trump's life hell, he will behave and leave office. But if they are polite and confine themselves to only their lawyers talking to his lawyers, plus an occasional harsh tweet from the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate, Trump will steal everything he can from the Federal government and never leave the White House.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Yes. We've known for a while that he will do anything to get another term, and then probably anything to see his children move up or some other hand picked puppet. We know because 1) he's an evil sack of sh*t 2) he told us as much when he said "the Dems are going to try and steal the election!" That's that tactic of "accuse them of what you are going to do." and 3) he has enough support (sick stupid fwads) to make it stick.
What could the Democrats do? They know Trump's obvious weakness. In secret, Biden offers Trump a pardon in exchange for him stepping down. Trump would behave himself as a gentleman because he wants to protect his stolen fortune from the IRS tax collectors more than anything in the world.
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Quote:Oh, yes, I am kidding and you can't prove differently, bitter little man living on $4,500 per year.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. You're not kidding.
You've already alluded to assassination of the President no less than 3 times on this board before, once even saying that you could do it yourself and get away with it.
What's the matter now?
Sounds like somebody is scared.
Don't worry if you've scrubbed it. I already have it archived if anybody wants to take a look at it.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63720&mid=11044
97#1104497
By the way, 6ix, there is another fascinating article, this one at History dot Com, entitled "10 Things You May Not Know About the Lincoln Assassination"
www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-lincoln-assa
ssination
That article could be the template for "10 Things You May Not Know About the Trump Assassination" at History dot Com (just kidding, same as Trump "trolling" because he's such a joker about refusing to step down, but we'll see).
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Quote:Donald Trump Jr. is touting baseless election-rigging claims in videos posted to Facebook and Twitter asking "able-bodied" people to join an election security "army" for his father. Trump and Junior are NOT kidding.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No. You're not kidding.
You've already alluded to assassination of the President no less than 3 times on this board before, once even saying that you could do it yourself and get away with it.
What's the matter now?
Sounds like somebody is scared.
Don't worry if you've scrubbed it. I already have it archived if anybody wants to take a look at it.
"The radical left are laying the groundwork to steal this election from my father," Trump Jr. said in the video posted by the Trump campaign. He added, "Their plan is to add millions of fraudulent ballots that can cancel your vote and overturn the election." Perhaps the Trump army will burn fraudulent ballots at the Post Office before counting? We'll see as Trump has said a thousand times.
More at www.cnn.com/2020/09/23/politics/donald-trump-jr-baseless-rigged-electi
on-fact-check/index.html
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Moody's: A Democratic Election Sweep Would Be Great for the Economy
In every possible category, a Democratic sweep is better for the country than any other scenario. Moody’s even projects that Democrats would be better for the budget deficit than Republicans.
You can read the full report here, but it’s pretty easy to summarize. If Democrats win, they’ll spend money to stimulate the economy out of its COVID-19 funk and this will help everybody. The spending will largely be financed by taxing the rich, which has only a small negative effect on the economy. But if Republicans win, they’ll keep the purse strings closed and instead pursue yet more tax cuts for the rich and trade wars with China. Neither one is especially good for the economy. It’s so simple.
More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/09/moodys-a-democratic-election-sw
eep-would-be-great-for-the-economy/
The Macroeconomic consequences: Trump vs. Biden
www.moodysanalytics.com/-/media/article/2020/the-macroeconomic-consequ
ences-trump-vs-biden.pdf
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Trump is America's Enemy #1. Trump's lies have killed more Americans than the last 5 wars combined. Trump works for Putin.
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Trump gets BOOED OUT of Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s memorial
Patriots cannot abide Trump's evil.
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A stopped clock!
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Republicans: Ha Ha Ha, No, the President Didn’t Really Mean That About the Peaceful Transition of Power, Ha Ha
President Implies He Might Try to Hold Office by Force If He Loses Election.
Independent voters are going to answer the poll question, “Should there be a huge disruption to the way the United States conducts the transition of presidential power,” with “No.” So Republican damage control is underway, but it is extremely doubtful the GOP Senators truthfully mean that they will actually allow Biden to be President.
Did any GOP Senator say the president should stop his campaign’s lawyers from pursuing lawsuits whose goal is to make the election process more confusing by complicating the process of voting by mail during a time when going to the polls would be a dangerous risk for older and otherwise vulnerable citizens? No, none of the statements got into that whole business.
All promises the Senators are making now about Trump graciously stepping down will expire on Election Day. On the next day the Senators start saying that the Democrats cheated-cheated-cheated.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/republicans-sort-of-but-no
t-really-promise-peaceful-transition-of-power.html
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He's just trolling.
And he's further energizing his base.
Meanwhile, he's not even bothering with TV ads anymore.
He knows he's going to win. By a LOT. But he's making sure that his supporters aren't in on his little secret so they all get off their ass and vote.
No reason to follow Hillary's lead. Remember everyone thought she was a shoe in. He's capable of learning from idiot's mistakes around him.
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump is America's Enemy #1. Trump's lies have killed more Americans than the last 5 wars combined. Trump works for Putin.
This cunt is a cunt.
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The Political Economy of Saving the Planet
Noam Chomsky: At the time of writing, concern for the COVID-19 crisis is virtually all-consuming. That’s understandable. It is severe and is severely disrupting lives. But it will pass, though at horrendous cost, and there will be recovery. There will not be recovery from the melting of the arctic ice sheets and the other consequences of global warming.
Not everyone is ignoring the advancing existential crisis. The sociopaths dedicated to accelerating the disaster continue to pursue their efforts, relentlessly. As before, Trump and his courtiers take pride in leading the race to destruction. As the United States was becoming the epicenter of the pandemic, thanks in no small measure to their folly, the White House cabal released its budget proposals. As expected, the proposals call for even deeper cuts in healthcare support and environmental protection, instead favoring the bloated military and the building of Trump’s Great Wall. And to add an extra touch of sadism, “the budget promotes a fossil fuel ‘energy boom’ in the United States, including an increase in the production of natural gas and crude oil.”
Meanwhile, to drive another nail in the coffin that Trump and associates are preparing for the nation and the world, their corporate-run EPA weakened auto emission standards, thus enhancing environmental destruction and killing more people from pollution. As expected, fossil fuel companies are lining up in the forefront of the appeals of the corporate sector to the nanny state, pleading once again for the generous public to rescue them from the consequences of their misdeeds.
In brief, the criminal classes are relentless in their pursuit of power and profit, whatever the human consequences. And those consequences will be disastrous if their efforts are not countered, indeed overwhelmed, by those concerned for “the survival of humanity.” It is no time to mince words out of misplaced politeness. “The survival of humanity” is at risk on our present course, to quote a leaked internal memo from JPMorgan Chase, America’s largest bank, referring specifically to the bank’s genocidal policy of funding fossil fuel production.
More at https://bostonreview.net/science-nature-global-justice/noam-chomsky-ro
bert-pollin-c-j-polychroniou-political-economy-saving
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The GOP’s Long March to Fascism Finally Arrives With Trump 2020
It turns out the most important anti-truth of recent vintage was the one about voter fraud. This is what Trump will use to steal the election if he can.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-gops-long-march-to-fascism-finally-a
rrives-with-trump-2020
Donald Trump's refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, though shocking, was no surprise. It's a dark, culminating step, although not the dark, culminating step, because that is still yet to come, of a long march, a step-by-step chipping away at democratic norms that long predates him.
At the heart of it: relentless attacks on the truth, large and small, year after year, decade after decade, until the point is reached where roughly 40 percent of the people still cling to truth, but another 40 percent have come to believe anti-truth, and the 20 percent in the middle don't know what to think. And that's how you put a knife in democracy's heart.
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"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” - David Frum
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Lincoln's approach to a tough election could teach Trump a few things
Since President Donald Trump loves describing himself as akin to the second coming of Abraham Lincoln, he might want to take a few lessons from Lincoln, not only on how to wage a campaign for re-election but how to deal with the possibility of defeat in a time of national tumult.
First, he refused to question the legitimacy of an election in the midst of chaos.
"We can not have free government without elections," he said in a November speech, "and if the rebellion could force us to forego, or postpone, a national election, it might fairly claim to have already conquered and ruined us."
Second, Lincoln insisted on the fullest possible participation. Between 1862 and 1865, 20 northern states changed laws that required in-person voting to allow deployed soldiers to cast their ballots. True, as most historians agree, nearly 80% of the troops voted for Lincoln, but the President had no sure way of knowing in advance how much support they would provide. More importantly, never before had a candidate -- much less a president -- shown such confidence in the security of absentee ballots, or the right of voters to cast them.
In the midst of dire predictions about his own election chances, Lincoln patriotically planned for a peaceful transition of power. He went so far as to craft a memorandum that openly stated: "This morning, as for some days past, it seems exceedingly probable that this Administration will not be re-elected. Then it will be my duty to so co-operate with the President elect, as to save the Union between the election and the inauguration; as he will have secured his election on such ground that he can not possibly save it afterwards."
Oh yes, and finally, when a longtime member of the Supreme Court -- Democratic Chief Justice Roger B. Taney -- died just a few weeks before Election Day, Lincoln deferred nominating a successor until after the people had decided on their next president. Could he have rammed a nominee through Congress earlier if so disposed? Yes. In fact, when he did ultimately forward the name of Salmon P. Chase as Taney's successor, the Senate consented on the very same day!
As it happened, fate -- and Union General William Sherman -- rendered the success of all these initiatives' efforts moot. When Sherman captured Atlanta in the first week of September, the political tide quickly shifted in concert with the military. And on November 8, Lincoln won nearly 55% of the popular vote.
More at www.cnn.com/2020/09/26/opinions/lincoln-reelection-lessons-for-trump-h
olzer/index.html
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#MAGA
Easy win.
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Quote:Evidence?
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump works for Putin.
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Quote:Evidence?
Originally posted by 1KIKI:Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump works for Putin.
Putin got exactly what he wants from NATO this week, thanks to Trump
www.insider.com/putin-got-what-he-wants-from-nato-trump-2019-12
"One of the largest ways that foreign governments gain leverage — certainly in the case of the president — is through financial entanglements," Strzok said. "And I think when you take a look at the Trump financial enterprise, particularly its relationship with Russian monies and potentially those related to organized crime and other elements, that those interactions have placed them in a position where the Russians have leverage over him and are able to influence his actions."
www.businessinsider.com/former-fbi-agent-says-donald-trump-is-compromi
sed-by-russians-2020-9
If Trump had publicized his income tax returns, as he promised many times, we'd have the kind of proof that ends with either jail for a traitor or exoneration for a patriotic tax payer. Oddly enough, Trump has taken his case to the Supreme Court in order to not show he is a good tax payer.
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Biden reflects shift on climate change politics
Joe Biden is calling for $2 trillion in federal spending over the next four years to get the United States on the path to eliminating carbon emissions by midcentury — likely requiring a massive shift away from oil and other fossil fuels.
Trump says climate change is a hoax.
More at www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/joe-biden-climate-cha
nge-covid-economy-green-deal-15595374.php
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Originally posted by second:
Biden reflects shift on climate change politics
Joe Biden is calling for $2 trillion in federal spending over the next four years to get the United States on the path to eliminating carbon emissions by midcentury — likely requiring a massive shift away from oil and other fossil fuels.
Trump says climate change is a hoax.
Trumps goose is cooked.
T
Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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2 more nights.
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Trump and his movement are evil — but the hope-peddlers in the chattering class won't say so
Philosopher Susan Neiman, one of the world's leading experts on evil, said this about Donald Trump in a conversation with Salon last year:
“Donald Trump meets every single criterion for using the word evil — and he keeps meeting it every day. Evil is a word that should be used with caution. I believe that many people, particularly a certain type of liberal centrist, were put off by the way in which George W. Bush was described as being evil. I also argue that Bush is evil and I explored this in my book "Moral Clarity." Unfortunately, the description of "evil" has been so overused that many people just believe that it is a type of name-calling.
I disagree. When we relinquish the use of language like "evil" we are leaving the strongest linguistic weapons that we have in the hands of the people who are least equipped to use them. But I do understand the caution and anxiety about using that language. Given the way that Trump's supporters and the broader right-wing movement in America works, I am unsure if describing Trump as being evil would actually bring any clarity to the conversation. That does not mean that accurate language for describing Trump and what he represents should be avoided.”
In a recent email, Neiman offered this further warning:
“If any moral judgment commands agreement today, it's the claim that Auschwitz — the Nazi concentration camp that has become shorthand for the mass murder of men, women and children because of their ethnic heritage — was evil. But fascism didn't begin with Auschwitz; it began with a series of attacks on the rule of law and the media that tested the German public's readiness to accept them. Anyone who has followed the news over the past several years has seen how Trump and his enablers have increasingly tested our capacity for outrage by undermining one moral principle after the next.
Their determination to fill Ruth Bader Ginsburg's seat is only the latest example. Should they succeed, and win a second term by whatever means, there would be little to rein in full-fledged fascism. And Americans who are now contemplating moving abroad should know that what happens in the U.S. affects the whole world; there will be few places to escape Trump's influence.”
Most members of the mainstream American media and other political observers will not publicly state that Donald Trump and his movement are evil — because that then demands they do something about it.
More at https://www.salon.com/2020/09/27/trump-and-his-movement-are-evil--but-
the-hope-peddlers-in-the-chattering-class-wont-say-so/
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Yup. Evil.
You're gross.
Fuck Salon.
One more night.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I'll give you an extremely simple example of evil:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. Evil.
You're gross.
Fuck Salon.
William Barr stated on September 2, 2020 in a CNN interview:
“We indicted someone in Texas, 1,700 ballots collected from people who could vote, he made them out and voted for the person he wanted to.”
I know why Barr said it, since Trump says the same except with no details. Barr is lying his head off. What he said happened never happened.
www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/sep/22/william-barr/doj-didnt-indic
t-someone-texas-fraudulently-castin/
We rate Barr’s claim False.
What Barr is doing isn't Auschwitz. It is the "Arbeit Macht Frei" sign at Auschwitz, which means "Work Sets You Free" in German, which was a total lie.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbeit_macht_frei
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Quote:Can one do evil without being evil? This was the puzzling question that the philosopher Hannah Arendt grappled with when she reported for The New Yorker in 1961 on the war crimes trial of Adolph Eichmann, the Nazi operative responsible for organizing the transportation of millions of Jews and others to various concentration camps in support of the Nazi’s Final Solution.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. Evil.
You're gross.
Fuck Salon.
Arendt found Eichmann an ordinary, rather bland, bureaucrat, who in her words, was ‘neither perverted nor sadistic’, but ‘terrifyingly normal’. He acted without any motive other than to diligently advance his career in the Nazi bureaucracy. Eichmann was not an amoral monster, she concluded in her study of the case, Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report on the Banality of Evil (1963). Instead, he performed evil deeds without evil intentions, a fact connected to his ‘thoughtlessness’, a disengagement from the reality of his evil acts. Eichmann ‘never realized what he was doing’ due to an ‘inability… to think from the standpoint of somebody else’. Lacking this particular cognitive ability, he ‘committed crimes under circumstances that made it well-nigh impossible for him to know or to feel that he was doing wrong’.
Arendt dubbed these collective characteristics of Eichmann ‘the banality of evil’: he was not inherently evil, but merely shallow and clueless, a ‘joiner’, in the words of one contemporary interpreter of Arendt’s thesis: he was a man who drifted into the Nazi Party, in search of purpose and direction, not out of deep ideological belief. (I know thousands of Trump lovers and they are purposeless, directionless people who are pulled like iron filings by Trump's magnetism. )
More at https://aeon.co/ideas/what-did-hannah-arendt-really-mean-by-the-banali
ty-of-evil
As reminder of how evil 6ixStringJack is: On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 10:27 AM, he trivialized the death toll from Covid-19 as unimportant ("Nobody gives a shit") because the toll was 1,066 for the day while total deaths from all causes was 7,808. 6ix lives in the same mental space as Adolph Eichmann occupied when he was alive.
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63571&mid=11120
38#1112038
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Quote:“Own the Libs” Is Gradually Morphing Into “Kill the Libs”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. Evil.
You're gross.
Fuck Salon.
If Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis gets his way, people who merely attend a protest that results in property damage will be prosecuted for felonies. Yelling at someone in a restaurant as part of such a protest will be a criminal offense. And a driver who kills demonstrators with his car will not be liable for their deaths, as long as he is “fleeing for safety from a mob.”
These are just a few of the policies proposed by DeSantis in a package meant to chill dissent and punish those in the streets demanding an end to racist police violence. Republican leaders in the Florida Legislature have promised to file the bill in 2021. By introducing it now, DeSantis clearly hopes to rile up Trump’s base in Florida, one of the most crucial swing states, with fears of black-clad cabals rampaging through their gated communities. But the specifics of the proposal are worth close consideration, because it represents a rising consensus among conservative leaders under Donald Trump: A governing ethos that once boiled down to “troll the libs” is steadily escalating toward “kill the libs.”
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-trump-own
-the-libs-kill-the-libs.html
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Quote:Wow.
Originally posted by second:Quote:“Own the Libs” Is Gradually Morphing Into “Kill the Libs”
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup. Evil.
You're gross.
Fuck Salon.
If Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis gets his way, people who merely attend a protest that results in property damage will be prosecuted for felonies. Yelling at someone in a restaurant as part of such a protest will be a criminal offense. And a driver who kills demonstrators with his car will not be liable for their deaths, as long as he is “fleeing for safety from a mob.”
These are just a few of the policies proposed by DeSantis in a package meant to chill dissent and punish those in the streets demanding an end to racist police violence. Republican leaders in the Florida Legislature have promised to file the bill in 2021. By introducing it now, DeSantis clearly hopes to rile up Trump’s base in Florida, one of the most crucial swing states, with fears of black-clad cabals rampaging through their gated communities. But the specifics of the proposal are worth close consideration, because it represents a rising consensus among conservative leaders under Donald Trump: A governing ethos that once boiled down to “troll the libs” is steadily escalating toward “kill the libs.”
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-trump-own
-the-libs-kill-the-libs.html
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Such high regard for the constitution... NOT!
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Quote:Applause for the killing of the right’s political nemeses is everywhere these days, popping up wherever the GOP can be found. It was there in one of Trump’s first tweets about the George Floyd protests: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.” It was at the Republican National Convention, which honored Mark and Patricia McCloskey, a random St. Louis couple who earned a moment of fame for threatening protesters with guns, as esteemed representatives of the party. It’s in ads for Republicans like Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler, whose recent TV spot suggests she’ll “eliminate the liberal scribes,” and QAnon supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene, who posted a photo of herself brandishing an assault rifle next to images of Reps. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Rashida Tlaib. “Squad’s worst nightmare,” it read.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Such high regard for the constitution... NOT!
The rhetoric is repulsive. But the GOP’s kill-the-libs ethos is not limited to violent rhetoric. It’s becoming policy. And I don’t just mean DeSantis’ bill — indifference to American death, as long as the Americans dying are liberals, is one of the many horrors we’ve been forced to witness this year.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-trump-own
-the-libs-kill-the-libs.html
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Quote:Sounds like something a fascist would do.
Originally posted by second:Quote:Applause for the killing of the right’s political nemeses is everywhere these days, popping up wherever the GOP can be found. It was there in one of Trump’s first tweets about the George Floyd protests: “When the looting starts, the shooting starts.” It was at the Republican National Convention, which honored Mark and Patricia McCloskey, a random St. Louis couple who earned a moment of fame for threatening protesters with guns, as esteemed representatives of the party. It’s in ads for Republicans like Georgia Sen. Kelly Loeffler, whose recent TV spot suggests she’ll “eliminate the liberal scribes,” and QAnon supporter Marjorie Taylor Greene, who posted a photo of herself brandishing an assault rifle next to images of Reps. Ilhan Omar, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Rashida Tlaib. “Squad’s worst nightmare,” it read.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Such high regard for the constitution... NOT!
The rhetoric is repulsive. But the GOP’s kill-the-libs ethos is not limited to violent rhetoric. It’s becoming policy. And I don’t just mean DeSantis’ bill — indifference to American death, as long as the Americans dying are liberals, is one of the many horrors we’ve been forced to witness this year.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-trump-own
-the-libs-kill-the-libs.html
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Quote:From the very start of the COVID-19 pandemic, Trump has explicitly, shamelessly hastened the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans living in blue states, then smirked as they perished. Every step of the administration’s pandemic response has been undergirded by the assumption that it’s fine for the president’s putative opponents to die. In March, the federal government shorted several blue states on the protective equipment and ventilators they’d requested from the national stockpile (while furnishing GOP-led Florida, which carries the most electoral votes of any swing state, with far more supplies than it needed at the time). One public health expert involved in the White House’s coronavirus task force told Vanity Fair that “the political folks” on the team dismissed the idea of producing a national pandemic response plan once it appeared that the virus “was going to be relegated to Democratic states.” According to a “senior administration official” who spoke to the Washington Post, it took evidence that COVID-19 was killing “our people” in red states and would probably start killing more people in swing states to get Trump to care about stopping the spread of the virus. Trump has also publicly argued against coronavirus-related relief bills because he believes they’d help blue states more than red states.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sounds like something a fascist would do.
These have always been the stakes of politics: When lawmakers block Medicaid expansion, slash funding for affordable housing, bow to police unions, or redistribute wealth from the bottom to the top, they’re expressing their beliefs about who deserves to live and who deserves to die, whose lives matter and whose lives don’t. The pandemic and the national uprising for racial justice are slightly new terrains, but the stakes haven’t changed. The quiet part is just getting louder.
Earlier this month, the president encouraged his supporters to stop counting the people who’ve died in blue states as part of the official U.S. COVID-19 death toll. “If you take the blue states out … we’re really at a very low level,” he said. It was as if their deaths, which resulted from his politicized negligence, were no loss at all.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/kyle-rittenhouse-trump-own
-the-libs-kill-the-libs.html
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He's none of that.
He's the best president since Reagan at least.
Trump landslide in November.
Biden gets destroyed tomorrow night. Let's see how the Democrats and Legacy Media deal with that.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump has hundreds of millions in personal debt. He does not have the resources to repay it, since his business is losing money.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
He's none of that.
He's the best president since Reagan at least.
Trump landslide in November.
Biden gets destroyed tomorrow night. Let's see how the Democrats and Legacy Media deal with that.
Personal financial trouble has always been a red flag when it comes to filling sensitive government positions, because it’s an open invitation to corruption.
So the confirmation that the nation’s chief law enforcement and national security official — whose business empire already offers many opportunities for undue influence — is drowning in debt is chilling.
Beyond that, analysts of business finance have long known that high levels of debt, enough to pose a substantial risk of bankruptcy, create destructive incentives. Instead of investing in the future, the owners of highly indebted businesses are tempted to engage in asset stripping, getting the money out before the creditors stake their claims.
Owners of debt-hobbled businesses are also tempted to take big risks, even at bad odds, because if they get lucky, they might save themselves; if they don’t, it’s someone else’s problem. Heads they win, tails the creditors lose.
So now we have a deeply indebted business owner with every incentive to engage in malfeasance — except that in addition to running his business, he’s running the United States of America.
But he may be about to lose that special position, and whatever financial defense it may provide.
Think about that. Also think about the fact that Trump constantly complains about almost nonexistent voter fraud — he has never accepted the fact that he lost the popular vote four years ago — and that he has repeatedly refused to say that he will accept election results if he loses.
More at www.nytimes.com/2020/09/28/opinion/trump-taxes-debt.html
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Trump is the worst president in all of history, and his record proves it.
I thought we could never go lower than the Bushes, but I was clearly wrong.
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Quote:I think you are placing too much blame on Trump. Trump has always been a dirt bag for as long as I've known about him. I would place the blame on Republican voters who chose Trump in the primary and will vote for him again in 2020. They knew what he was. His obviously defective way of life and business was why they picked him. There is a nice article about what kind of people are Trump voters. I've had to deal with these crooked people for 68 years. In Trump they found somebody as defective as themselves, while Bush II wasn't close enough to what they wanted.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump is the worst president in all of history, and his record proves it.
I thought we could never go lower than the Bushes, but I was clearly wrong.
Democrats Need to Wake Up: The Trump Movement Is Shot Through With Fascism
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/27/trump-supporters-fascism-election/
In order to win this presidential contest, liberals need to accept that Trump supporters do not care if he were to scrap millions of mail-in votes or to welcome, and even solicit, Russian interference for his cause. Not only do some Trump supporters understand that he is an autocrat who will cheat the rules to stay in power, that’s precisely what they like about him. The left should understand that many Trump supporters inherently believe that they would fare better under an autocratic system of white supremacy than under a multiracial democracy.
History, here, is telling. Historical comparisons should not be thrown around haphazardly or promiscuously, but this careful comparison between the past and the present needs to be made. One of historians’ most confounding tasks has been to explain what made supposedly honorable, civilized Germans actively participate in the killing of millions of people. In his seminal, if hotly debated, book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust,” Daniel Jonah Goldhagen disputes all the myths that historians previously offered to explain Germans’ willing participation in such an atrocity.
Goldhagen debunks the explanation of situational pressure, that hard times rendered Germans incapable of saying no. He disproves the myth of sheer self-interest, that ordinary Germans were just trying to get by. He dismisses the theory of bureaucratic myopia, that toiling Germans were too busy focusing on the minutia of survival to be aware of the Nazis’ larger systemic killing. He refutes the caricature of cultural predisposition, that Germans were automatons, inclined to mindlessly obey authority. And he dismisses the prevalent impulses to exaggerate the sway of misinformation, that Germans were seduced into submission by Leni Riefenstahl’s magic-making or their führer’s charisma.
Like Goldhagen does with Nazis, we have to avoid pat answers.
Could present Americans participate in slaughtering millions as Germans did? Hardly. And there are no useful comparisons to be made between Hitler’s political methods and Trump’s. Significant differences distinguish the political impacts of the Third Reich versus the Trump administration. This country is no Nazi Germany. But America under Trump demonstrably treads into fascist territory.
Ours is a country where the president can witness 5-million-plus acres burn, millions of residents flee their homes, miles of toxic air blight the sky, blackouts, triple-digit heat waves, and literally not be bothered. We have a leader who knew the deadliness of a virus, lied about his awareness, and still indifferently presides over the subsequent deaths of 200,000 and counting. Even during the country’s bleak distress, Trump supporters — from his cabinet down to ordinary, diehard voters — put his money and their collective political power ahead of human life, undoubtedly a fundamental feature of autocracy.
So I can’t help but reveal how the excuses made on behalf of Nazi-era Germans resemble the collective naïveté — the delusional pass — afforded to roughly 40 percent of our people. America’s democra
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I think you are placing too much blame on Trump. Trump has always been a dirt bag for as long as I've known about him. I would place the blame on Republican voters who chose Trump in the primary and will vote for him again in 2020. They knew what he was. His obviously defective way of life and business was why they picked him. There is a nice article about what kind of people are Trump voters. I've had to deal with these crooked people for 68 years. In Trump they found somebody as defective as themselves, while Bush II wasn't close enough to what they wanted.
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Trump is the worst president in all of history, and his record proves it.
I thought we could never go lower than the Bushes, but I was clearly wrong.
Democrats Need to Wake Up: The Trump Movement Is Shot Through With Fascism
https://theintercept.com/2020/09/27/trump-supporters-fascism-election/
In order to win this presidential contest, liberals need to accept that Trump supporters do not care if he were to scrap millions of mail-in votes or to welcome, and even solicit, Russian interference for his cause. Not only do some Trump supporters understand that he is an autocrat who will cheat the rules to stay in power, that’s precisely what they like about him. The left should understand that many Trump supporters inherently believe that they would fare better under an autocratic system of white supremacy than under a multiracial democracy.
History, here, is telling. Historical comparisons should not be thrown around haphazardly or promiscuously, but this careful comparison between the past and the present needs to be made. One of historians’ most confounding tasks has been to explain what made supposedly honorable, civilized Germans actively participate in the killing of millions of people. In his seminal, if hotly debated, book, “Hitler’s Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust,” Daniel Jonah Goldhagen disputes all the myths that historians previously offered to explain Germans’ willing participation in such an atrocity.
Goldhagen debunks the explanation of situational pressure, that hard times rendered Germans incapable of saying no. He disproves the myth of sheer self-interest, that ordinary Germans were just trying to get by. He dismisses the theory of bureaucratic myopia, that toiling Germans were too busy focusing on the minutia of survival to be aware of the Nazis’ larger systemic killing. He refutes the caricature of cultural predisposition, that Germans were automatons, inclined to mindlessly obey authority. And he dismisses the prevalent impulses to exaggerate the sway of misinformation, that Germans were seduced into submission by Leni Riefenstahl’s magic-making or their führer’s charisma.
Like Goldhagen does with Nazis, we have to avoid pat answers.
Could present Americans participate in slaughtering millions as Germans did? Hardly. And there are no useful comparisons to be made between Hitler’s political methods and Trump’s. Significant differences distinguish the political impacts of the Third Reich versus the Trump administration. This country is no Nazi Germany. But America under Trump demonstrably treads into fascist territory.
Ours is a country where the president can witness 5-million-plus acres burn, millions of residents flee their homes, miles of toxic air blight the sky, blackouts, triple-digit heat waves, and literally not be bothered. We have a leader who knew the deadliness of a virus, lied about his awareness, and still indifferently presides over the subsequent deaths of 200,000 and counting. Even during the country’s bleak distress, Trump supporters — from his cabinet down to ordinary, diehard voters — put his money and their collective political power ahead of human life, undoubtedly a fundamental feature of autocracy.
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AOC Condemns U.S. System That Allows Trump, Amazon to Pay Almost No Taxes But Doesn't Fund Health Care For All
https://www.newsweek.com/aoc-condemns-us-system-that-allows-trump-amaz
on-pay-almost-no-taxes-doesnt-fund-health-care-1535097
Nailed it, yet again.
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Quote:What really irritates the hell of me is the Trump lovers also love H-bombs. More bombs is better! That attitude shows when Trump cancelled nuclear weapon treaties. I saw this about START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty):
Originally posted by reaverfan:
So they love that piece of shit because they themselves are pieces of shit.
Makes sense. Look at the pieces of shit here who spew their hate and lies all day long, even after we prove them wrong.
Trumptards, like Trump himself, are just evil pieces of shit.
President Donald Trump is planning to rev up the nuclear arms race a few weeks into his second term.
The New START strategic arms-reduction treaty, signed by President Barack Obama and Russia’s then-President Dmitry Medvedev in 2010, expires on Feb. 5 unless the two countries agree to extend it by another five years. Trump has indicated he has no interest in extending it unless the Russians make certain concessions, which have nothing to do with the treaty and which they have no interest in making.
Trump asked senior military officers how long it would take to load the thousands of nuclear warheads we have in storage onto long-range bombers and submarine-based missiles, when New START expires.
If Trump is trying to put the threat on the table as a bargaining chip, he’s going into the game with a weak hand. First, especially in the COVID economy, we can’t spend any adversary into oblivion without spending ourselves into oblivion too.
Second, Russia has even more nuclear weapons in storage than the United States. In other words, anything Trump can threaten to do, Vladimir Putin can match and then some. Under those circumstances, Trump’s bargaining strategy is self-defeating.
Third, the Trump administration’s conditions for agreeing to extend New START are, from the Russians’ point of view, unreasonable. Trump wants China to take part in the next round of arms talks. China has no interest in doing so — and it’s an odd idea to invite them, in any case. China has about one-fifth as many active nuclear weapons as the U.S. or Russia; it has never been engaged in an arms race with either of those countries, though roping them into trilateral arms talks might spur Chinese officers to demand equality in nuclear weaponry — thus creating a new arms race where there isn’t one now.
Finally, the United States simply does not need a larger nuclear arsenal. During the negotiations for New START and the ratification debate afterward, no senior U.S. military officer argued that the treaty was placing onerous restrictions on our nuclear arsenal or on our ability to carry out national-security policy.
The big point is this: No one is arguing that the U.S. needs more nuclear weapons. It would be much cheaper to simply extend New START for another five years. The Russians have said they’re willing to do that unconditionally. We would gain no advantage from pushing them into an arms race.
It would be an act of common sense — not weakness or appeasement — to keep the current limits in place. But Trump isn’t interested in common sense when it comes to nuclear weapons; he’s interested in bluster and meaningless measures of strength about who has the most bombs, measured in thousands. But to actually explode a hundred bombs, or even a few dozen, would end the world. This is another reason for ensuring that Trump is not still president on Feb. 5.
More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/trump-new-start-russia-nuc
lear.html
Trump lovers feelings about H-bombs tend to follow their feelings about guns. I have a shotgun, a pistol, and a rifle. The next door neighbor, a Trump lover, has an entire room full of weapons, none kept in a gun safe. He thinks more guns and nukes means he is better protected. I am convinced that too many guns and nukes makes you dangerously less safe.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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What is America really fighting over in the upcoming election? No particular issue. Not even Democrats versus Republicans.
The central fight is over Donald J. Trump.
Before Trump, most Americans weren't especially passionate about politics. But Trump's MO has been to force people to become passionate about him — to take fierce sides for or against. And he considers himself president only of the former, whom he calls "my people."
Trump came to office with no agenda except to feed his monstrous ego. He has never fueled his base. His base has fueled him. Its adoration sustains him.
So does the antipathy of his detractors. Presidents usually try to appease their critics. Trump has gone out of his way to offend them. "I do bring rage out," Trump unapologetically told journalist Bob Woodward in 2016.
In this way, he has turned America into a gargantuan projection of his own pathological narcissism.
His entire re-election platform is found in his use of the pronouns "we" and "them." "We" are people who love him, Trump Nation. "They" hate him.
In late August, near the end of his somnolent address on the South Lawn of the White House accepting the Republican nomination, Trump extemporized: "The fact is, we're here — and they're not." It drew a standing ovation.
At a recent White House news conference, a CNN correspondent asked if he condemned the behavior of his supporters in Portland, Oregon. In response, Trump charged: "Your supporters, and they are your supporters indeed, shot a young gentleman."
In Trump's eyes, CNN exists in a different country: Anti-Trump Nation.
So do the putative rioters and looters of "Biden's America." So do the inhabitants of blue states whose state and local tax deductions Trump eliminated in his tax overhaul. So do those who live in the "Democrat cities," as he calls them, whose funding he's trying to cut.
California is a big part of Anti-Trump Nation. He wanted to reject its request for aid battling wildfires "because he was so rageful that people in the state of California didn't support him," said former Department of Homeland Security Chief of Staff Miles Taylor.
New York is the capital of Anti-Trump Nation, which probably contributed to Trump "playing down" the threat of COVID-19 last March, when its virulence seemed largely confined to that metropolis. Even now, Trump claims the U.S. rate of COVID-19 deaths would be low "if you take the blue states out." That's untrue, but it's not the point. For Trump, blue states don't count because they're part of Anti-Trump Nation.
To Trump and his core enablers and supporters, the laws of Trump Nation authorize him to do whatever he wants. Anti-Trump Nation's laws constrain him, but they're illegitimate because they are made and enforced by the people who reject him.
So Trump's call to the president of Ukraine seeking help with the election was "perfect." It was fine for Russia to side with him in 2016, and it's fine for it to do so again. And of course the Justice Department, Postal Service and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention should help him win re-election. They're all aiding Trump Nation.
By a similar twisted logic, Anti-Trump Nation is dangerous. Hence, says Trump, the armed teenager who killed two in Kenosha, Wisconsin, acted in "self-defense," yet the suspected killer of a right-winger in Portland deserved the "retribution" he got when federal marshals gunned him down.
It follows that if Trump loses the election, he will not accept the result because it would be the product of Anti-Trump Nation, and Trump isn't the president of people who would vote against him. As he recently claimed, "The only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged."
In the warped minds of Trump and his acolytes, this could lead to civil war. Just last
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Do Right, Be Right. :)
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The Very Strong Case for Bidenomics
The former vice president’s tax and spending claims are credible; Trump’s aren’t.
Thanks to Donald Trump’s shouting and nonstop lying, there wasn’t much of a substantive policy discussion at the debate on Tuesday.
But there were some broad — and unsurprisingly, false — assertions about economic policy. Joe Biden claimed that his tax and spending plans would create millions of jobs and promote economic growth. Trump claimed that they would destroy the economy.
Well, everything we know suggests that Biden was right and Trump wrong. And I’m not the only one saying this. Nonpartisan analysts like Moody’s Analytics and the not-exactly-socialist economists at Goldman Sachs are remarkably high on Biden’s proposals.
Before I get there, some history.
There’s a widespread perception that Republicans are better than Democrats at managing the economy. But that’s not at all what the record says.
Yes, Ronald Reagan presided over a long economic expansion; but so did Bill Clinton, and the Clinton boom was both longer and bigger. The economy did in fact add many jobs under Trump before the coronavirus struck, but this simply represented the continuation of an expansion that began under Barack Obama.
And those were the good stretches. Both Bushes presided over really poor economic performance.
Republicans also have a long history of claiming that progressive policies would lead to economic disaster. They’ve been wrong every time.
They’ve been wrong about tax hikes: When Clinton raised taxes in 1993, Republicans confidently predicted recession, but what actually happened was a huge boom. When California raised taxes under Jerry Brown, the right called it “economic suicide”; again, the economy boomed.
They’ve also been wrong about social programs. Obamacare, the G.O.P. insisted, would destroy millions of jobs. One of the dozens of attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act was actually called the “Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act.” Yet in the six years after January 2014, when the act went into full effect, the economy added almost 15 million jobs.
And let’s not forget the flip side, the many, many times Republicans promised that cutting taxes on the rich would produce an economic miracle, promises that never came true. There’s a reason conservatives still go on and on about the Reagan boom, all those years ago; it’s the only example they have that even seems to support their economic ideology. (It doesn’t, but that’s another topic.)
But there’s a difference between saying that progressive policies are not the disaster conservatives claim and saying that Biden’s plan would actually promote growth. Why are Moody’s and Goldman Sachs so high on his proposals? Why do I share that optimism?
More at www.nytimes.com/2020/10/01/opinion/trump-biden-economic-policy.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
What is America really fighting over in the upcoming election? No particular issue. Not even Democrats versus Republicans.
The central fight is over Donald J. Trump.
The election is about whether or not we have Trumps, 'Jacks' vision of America, or Biden's.
I choose Biden's vision.
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Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.
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Quote:We will NOT get Biden's vision because the Republicans in the Federal Courts and Republicans left in the Senate will stop him cold, but at least we will be rid of fat dumb Trump and his forever flapping mouth. Maybe there will be a little entertainment from fatso fighting the IRS. Maybe fatso will start a new political party and all the Trump lovers will flock to it, abandoning the GOP to actual Conservatives.
Originally posted by THG:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
What is America really fighting over in the upcoming election? No particular issue. Not even Democrats versus Republicans.
The central fight is over Donald J. Trump.
The election is about whether or not we have Trumps, 'Jacks' vision of America, or Biden's.
I choose Biden's vision.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Revelation of vast 'consulting fees' threatens damage for Ivanka Trump
First daughter apparently took almost $750,000 from the Trump Organization while she was simultaneously an employee
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/02/ivanka-trump-donald-tr
ump-tax-affairs
Looks like daddy isn't the only one looking at a prison term.
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Trump’s Turn From Immigration to the Enemy Within
Trump’s shift from demonizing immigrants to targeting leftists is straight out of the fascist playbook.
Listening to Donald Trump describe the U.S. in 2016 was to hear a story of a nation in peril of losing its identity to waves of brown-skinned invaders. Immigration and the border, particularly the urgent need to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico, dominated Trump’s campaign rhetoric.
It may have come as a surprise to some that immigration hardly came up at all in the first presidential debate of 2020. The Trump administration has increasingly and prominently centered purported threats posed by leftists, anarchists, and anti-fascists in its bid to hold onto power. This widening of the threat aperture is straight out of the authoritarian playbook, said Jason Stanley, a professor of philosophy at Yale University and author of “How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them.”
In the case of Trump, the first three years of the administration featured talk of threats from MS-13 gang members, migrant caravans marching north through Mexico, Islamic State killers hidden among refugee populations and more — all were couched in terms of threats to the homeland, an “invasion” that posed a danger to national security and warranted decisive law enforcement and military responses. In some cases, such as the October 2018 migrant caravans that led to military deployments to the border during the midterm elections, the supposedly increased severity of the threat coincided with important electoral moments.
Stanley’s argument is not that the U.S. currently has a fascist government — at least not yet. Instead, he draws attention to the concerning features of Trumpism. “It’s a cult of the leader, all about Trump,” he said. “It’s a fascist social and political movement.” The identification of enemies is central to such movements, he argued, and quite often involves creating linkages between criminalized immigrant populations and the political left.
The DHS intelligence shop has repeatedly disseminated reports describing opponents of the president’s border and immigration policies as domestic terrorists. The idea the DHS sells is that leftists are bringing immigrants in to destroy the white race. Immigration is a communist plot to destroy the racial character of the nation so that the communists can take over.
The DHS is a massive quasi-military organization devoted to targeting noncitizens and vilifying them as terrorists. All Trump has got to do is move that over one little notch to focus on political opponents.
More from https://theintercept.com/2020/10/03/trump-immigration-antifa-fascism/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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