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Tuesday, September 22, 2020 8:29 PM

You really need to stop using the word "white" as an adjective to negatively modify words that aren't bad.

Not only because you further divide races that were coming together just fine in the 90's and early-to-mid 2000's, but because when you do this you're also lying to yourself.

There are a lot of Black Christians and Hispanic Christians in this country in 2020 too. A lot of them. Some might even argue that since many of them have had harder lives than their White Christian counterparts on average, that their faith is stronger and they're "better" Christians that the whites are on average.

So just like when you try to tear down national pride by calling it "White Nationalism" instead of just saying Nationalism, you modify Christianity as "White Christianity" at your own peril.


This, among quite a few other reasons, is why you're going to see higher black and Hispanic turnout for Trump than any Republican administration than we've seen in the past.



Of course, you're not going to realize that I'm right about this until the demographic breakdown of voting results comes out after November 3rd. And even then, you're going to find other reasons to explain it away.

You will have learned nothing. And you will make the same mistakes the next time.



Your party has gone way too far to the left, and shows no signs of reigning it back in. You might pick up some more suburbanite, "educated" white women who like to virtue signal all day long on Twitter, but you're starting to lose a lot of ground on the minority votes that Democrats have so taken for granted up to this point. These people aren't an easily corralled bloc, and they are all individuals with their own minds and perspectives.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 2:15 AM

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Your party has gone way too far to the left
The Democratic Party is nowhere on "the left" because it is not tackling issues that "the left" cares about: war, peace, jobs, and equality.

It is an establishment party that is sucking up to the uber-wealthy and dividing the remainder along sex and ethnic lines so that nobody will get together to challenge the established power structure.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 7:14 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Your party has gone way too far to the left
The Democratic Party is nowhere on "the left" because it is not tackling issues that "the left" cares about: war, peace, jobs, and equality.

It is an establishment party that is sucking up to the uber-wealthy and dividing the remainder along sex and ethnic lines so that nobody will get together to challenge the established power structure.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK




You're talking about Liberal policies.

I'm making a clear distinction between Liberals and Cringe Fringe Leftists.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:17 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Your party has gone way too far to the left
The Democratic Party is nowhere on "the left" because it is not tackling issues that "the left" cares about: war, peace, jobs, and equality.

It is an establishment party that is sucking up to the uber-wealthy and dividing the remainder along sex and ethnic lines so that nobody will get together to challenge the established power structure.

Democratic party is a centrist party. How can I tell? It rejected Bernie Sanders, twice. If you want those issues tackled, see if you can get the GOP to stop filibustering the Democrats' mild and centrist solutions. You can't? Too bad. You might want to look back at what Trump promised vs delivered.
www.google.com/search?q=What+promises+did+Trump+make+in+2016%3F

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:18 PM

Compared to center-right parties in developed democracies, the GOP is dangerously far from normal.

The Republican Supreme Court power grab after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death should be shocking, given the naked hypocrisy involved. The only reason it isn’t is that we’ve come to expect this from Republicans — and not just under Trump.

Republicans shut down the government in the 1990s and impeached President Bill Clinton over far less than what Trump has done in office. Under Obama, they fanned the flames of birtherism, held the global economy hostage to force spending cuts, and elevated obstructionism to the level of governing principle.

At the state level, they have rewritten electoral rules to block Democrats from voting and seized power from Democratic governors after they have won elections. Just this week, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis proposed a bill that would effectively criminalize anti-police violence protests — and protect drivers who ran over protesters with their cars.

This kind of radicalism is not at all normal — at least, when compared to center-right parties in other advanced democracies.

Experts on comparative politics say the GOP is an extremist outlier, no longer belonging in the same conversation with “normal” right-wing parties like Canada’s Conservative Party (CPC) or Germany’s Christian Democratic Party (CDU). Instead, it more closely resembles more extreme right parties — like Viktor Orbán’s Fidesz in Hungary or Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s AKP in Turkey — that have actively worked to dismantle democracy in their own countries.

The Supreme Court saga can’t be considered in isolation. It is symptomatic of a profound brokenness in American politics, one party dragging us away from the developed-world political standards we aspire to and towards a fight over the most basic of democratic principles: whether power should be shared. And that’s a disaster for American democracy.

“The only way we move forward is when Republicans reform, and cease to be an increasingly authoritarian white nationalist party,” says Steven Levitsky, a Harvard professor and the co-author (with Daniel Ziblatt) of How Democracies Die.

The Republican Party really is different. Levitsky’s views are not at all an outlier.

A 2019 survey of nearly 2,000 experts on political parties from around the world asked respondents to rate political parties on two axes: the extent to which they are committed to basic democratic principles and their commitment to protecting rights for ethnic minorities. The higher the number, the more anti-democratic and intolerant the party is.

The following chart shows the results of the survey for all political parties in the OECD, a group of wealthy democratic states, with the two major American parties highlighted in red. The GOP is an extreme outlier compared to mainstream conservative parties in other wealthy democracies, like Canada’s CPC or Germany’s CDU.

Its closest peers are, almost uniformly, radical right and anti-democratic parties. This includes Turkey’s AKP (a regime that is one of the world’s leading jailers of journalists), and Poland’s PiS (which has threatened dissenting judges with criminal punishment). Experts rate the GOP as substantially more hostile to minority rights than Hungary’s Fidesz, an authoritarian party that has made demonization of Muslim immigrants into a pillar of its official ideology.

More at www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/21449634/republicans-supreme-court-gop
-trump-authoritarian


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 8:04 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Democratic party is a centrist party.



De-fuckin-lusional.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 8:59 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
Democratic party is a centrist party.



De-fuckin-lusional.

Here is something about the centrist Democratic Party you did not know: Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden has proposed fully funding the Section 8 housing voucher program. It’s extremely well targeted as economic stimulus to give money to families who are sure to spend it. If paired with smart regulatory ideas, it could unleash a real boom in house-building that creates jobs and lays the foundation for future prosperity. 6ix, you'd have to read the details at Vox, which you won't do.
www.vox.com/the-highlight/21401460/housing-economy-coronavirus-great-r
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If you read it, you'd say it's Communism, but that only means you are exactly like all the Trump lovers I know.

6ix, have I told you today that you don't know a damn thing that is both important, true, and accurate about the Democrats? But that is the story of nearly every Trump voter I know, except the wealthy, who actually have profitable reasons, not ideological, to vote for him, while despising him as an incompetent executive.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 9:18 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

De-fuckin-lusional.



Indeed you are.

Anything an inch to the left of Hitler is radical communism to you. That's because you don't know what words mean. This country has no left to speak of in government.

Progressives like Bernie and AOC would be considered centrists in any other country.

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 9:21 PM

lol

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Wednesday, September 23, 2020 9:40 PM

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