Deep state. MSM. Trump ...
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"Newsweek investigated the failures that led to the publication of the inaccurate report that President Trump spent Thanksgiving tweeting and golfing rather than visiting troops in Afghanistan," a Newsweek spokesperson told The New York Post in an email. "The story has been corrected and the journalist responsible has been terminated. We will continue to review our processes and, if required, take further action."
Wouldn't it be great if every White House staffer, administration and cabinet member, and Trump TV "reporter" who made up shit was terminated so quickly? Trump, gone. Pence, gone. Mulvaney, gone. Conway, gone. Miller, gone...
Bravo Newsweek, for setting a higher standard for truth and accuracy than the White House (which actually isn't that hard).
Nah. Newsweek was probably getting ready for another layoff. Or maybe they were just firing somebody who also happened to be asking too many questions...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/05/business/media/newsweek-firings.htm
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Two top editors and a reporter at Newsweek were fired on Monday, and two other reporters left in limbo, in a purge that targeted employees involved in coverage of the company’s financial and legal troubles.
Bob Roe, the magazine’s editor in chief; Kenneth Li, its executive news director; and Celeste Katz, a reporter, were dismissed after receiving Google Calendar invitations to meet with executives at Newsweek’s parent company, the Newsweek Media Group, three employees confirmed. Ms. Katz had reported on the company’s affairs, including a raid by the Manhattan district attorney’s office last month, and Mr. Li had overseen the coverage.
Two other reporters involved in the coverage — Josh Saul, a Newsweek writer, and Josh Keefe, a writer at the affiliated International Business Times — were locked out of their computers and email accounts on Monday. They were not fired, but did not know whether they would still have jobs come morning.
“I have not been fired, although that was very clearly the plan,” Mr. Keefe tweeted.
Newsweek’s communications department said in an email on Tuesday that the company does not comment on personnel matters. The magazine’s new acting editor, Nancy Cooper, did not respond to an email sent to her personal address.
After the district attorney’s raid on Jan. 18, editors at Newsweek assigned a group of reporters to investigate the company. An employee in the news department said that executives had vetted those reporters’ stories before publication.
At first, two employees said, the company’s chief content officer, Dayan Candappa, protected the reporters, essentially acting as a buffer between them and top executives. But last week, Mr. Candappa took a leave of absence in response to allegations of sexual harassment.
LOL
Seriously. They #MeToo'd somebody so they could fire all of them with no opposition.
Stay classy, Newsweek.

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So many social media vids now deleted
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That era with JFK, Nixon, Ford
https://files.catbox.moe/v12lzx.mp4
Warren Commission, Tucker
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My personal POV
Deep State was an idea that was formed in my lifetime as a poster on this board. So was American nationalism. You should therefore see a reflection of their genesis in my posts here. A quick recap on the evolution of the idea in my own personal history:
During Bill Clinton's tenure, I was almost completely consumed by our daughter's deteriorating neurological status, so my attention was focused elsewhere. Not SO distracted that I failed to notice Bill's pro-corporate economic and social policies (NAFTA, CAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall, Commodity Futures Trading Modernization Act, Digital Millennium Copyright Act, DOMA, DADT, destruction of welfare as we know it, failure to enact meaningful health care reform, etc.) that I voted for him the second time- I didn't- but distracted that HIS destruction of Yugoslavia kind of blew by me.
GWB. The thing that stuck out for me ... aside from his even more pro-corporate stance and his destruction of the financial system ... was how little the invasion of Afghanistan made sense, and then how even more nonsensical was the invasion of Iraq. The invasions were CLEARLY carried out for specious reasons and propelled on a wave of media-hyped hysteria. There was no benefit to America at all, and the only motivation that I could think of that matched the expense was to support the petrodollar. Still, all in all, I thought the invasions were huge miscalculations.
But then, Obama made the same serial "errors" ... destabilizing Ukraine, destroying Libya, destroying Sudan, destablizing Yemen, and attempting to destroy Syria .... in most cases leaving giant smoking jihadist-filled ruins in their wake .... and I came to realize that these weren't serial errors on the part of the Administrations (all of them) but DELIBERATE POLICY. Combined with the realization that al Qaeda was just Saudi Arabia's proxy army it was a little hard to ignore that allowing Saudi Arabia free rein over the Middle East was part of the plan. As long as the Saudis and their jihadist army (1) didn't attack Israel and (2) kept to their petrodollar bargain and (3) kept the oil flowing our administration (or, the actors behind the administration) would be happy to fund the Saudi's jihadist proxies .... and even use them on occasion: Afghanistan, Chechnya, Libya, and Syria.
It was the apparent split behind some of Obama's policies and some of the State Department/CIA policies which pointed up the intransigent nature of these behind-the-scenes actors. CHRISISALL once posted - very early on in Obama's tenure - that he thought that the only explanation for Obama's failure to follow up on any of his policies is that he got a note on a napkin, about how vulnerable Malia and Sasha were to accidents, and that Obama should be careful what he did. And while I think the form of the threat was exaggerated, the thought has clearly stuck with me for more than seven years.
It has been clear to me for a while that there IS something called the "deep state". I sometimes imagine that part of the secret lore that Presidents pass on to each other is a warning about this deep state, and the oligarchs who direct it.
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In Trump's case, the deep state has had him in its sights since he became a SERIOUS contender for the Presidency, and not just a conveniently weak candidate to trounce.
The BUT RUSSIA! allegations can only be one of two things:
1) Either someone with access to highly classified information (which would have to be the CIA/NSA) is SELECTIVELY leaking classified information for political purposes ... which is treason or
2) These "unnamed sources" are making shit up whole cloth, and using their positions in intelligence to give their insinuations more weight than they deserve ... which is treason.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Bump. Just bc this is when I had time to think about things. Unlike mostv
other clowns here.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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how unfunny they got during the writers strike
Late Night Recaps Musk’s and Trump’s Two-Hour Chat on X
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/14/arts/television/late-night-trump-mu
sk.html
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Trump’s Return to X Sinks Truth Social's Value Amid Investor Concerns
https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/168320/20240814/trump-s-return-t
o-x-sinks-truth-socials-value-amid-investor-concerns.htm
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
My personal POV
Deep State was an idea that was formed in my lifetime as a poster on this board. So was American nationalism. You should therefore see a reflection of their genesis in my posts here. A quick recap on the evolution of the idea in my own personal history:
During Bill Clinton's tenure, I was almost completely consumed by our daughter's deteriorating neurological status, so my attention was focused elsewhere. Not SO distracted that I failed to notice Bill's pro-corporate economic and social policies (NAFTA, CAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall, Commodity Futures Trading Modernization Act, Digital Millennium Copyright Act, DOMA, DADT, destruction of welfare as we know it, failure to enact meaningful health care reform, etc.) that I voted for him the second time- I didn't- but distracted that HIS destruction of Yugoslavia kind of blew by me.
GWB. The thing that stuck out for me ... aside from his even more pro-corporate stance and his destruction of the financial system ... was how little the invasion of Afghanistan made sense, and then how even more nonsensical was the invasion of Iraq. The invasions were CLEARLY carried out for specious reasons and propelled on a wave of media-hyped hysteria. There was no benefit to America at all, and the only motivation that I could think of that matched the expense was to support the petrodollar. Still, all in all, I thought the invasions were huge miscalculations.
But then, Obama made the same serial "errors" ... destabilizing Ukraine, destroying Libya, destroying Sudan, destablizing Yemen, and attempting to destroy Syria .... in most cases leaving giant smoking jihadist-filled ruins in their wake .... and I came to realize that these weren't serial errors on the part of the Administrations (all of them) but DELIBERATE POLICY. Combined with the realization that al Qaeda was just Saudi Arabia's proxy army it was a little hard to ignore that allowing Saudi Arabia free rein over the Middle East was part of the plan. As long as the Saudis and their jihadist army (1) didn't attack Israel and (2) kept to their petrodollar bargain and (3) kept the oil flowing our administration (or, the actors behind the administration) would be happy to fund the Saudi's jihadist proxies .... and even use them on occasion: Afghanistan, Chechnya, Libya, and Syria.
It was the apparent split behind some of Obama's policies and some of the State Department/CIA policies which pointed up the intransigent nature of these behind-the-scenes actors. CHRISISALL once posted - very early on in Obama's tenure - that he thought that the only explanation for Obama's failure to follow up on any of his policies is that he got a note on a napkin, about how vulnerable Malia and Sasha were to accidents, and that Obama should be careful what he did. And while I think the form of the threat was exaggerated, the thought has clearly stuck with me for more than seven years.
It has been clear to me for a while that there IS something called the "deep state". I sometimes imagine that part of the secret lore that Presidents pass on to each other is a warning about this deep state, and the oligarchs who direct it.
-------
In Trump's case, the deep state has had him in its sights since he became a SERIOUS contender for the Presidency, and not just a conveniently weak candidate to trounce.
The BUT RUSSIA! allegations can only be one of two things:
1) Either someone with access to highly classified information (which would have to be the CIA/NSA) is SELECTIVELY leaking classified information for political purposes ... which is treason or
2) These "unnamed sources" are making shit up whole cloth, and using their positions in intelligence to give their insinuations more weight than they deserve ... which is treason.
-----------
"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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And finally (for now) ....
I have yet to see a discussion of Trump's assertion that the mainstream media is the enemy of the people.
Hearing that just made me squirm. But then I had to confront the idea, and I realized that it was true.
Similar to the thought that our serial Administrations didn't make repeated stupid military and foreign policy "mistakes", I came to realize that the press might get credit for one or two errors, but not a few dozen in the same kind of topic.
Every war that we engaged in since Vietnam has had the active collusion of the press, as it hyped one specious "reason" after another to press for one pointless provocation/incursion/invasion after another: Vietnam, Panama, Somalia, Grenada, Yugoslavia, Georgia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Sudan. And this whole BUT RUSSIA! hysteria has been both relentless and ridiculous, and only credulous people - which seems to be an awful lot - wouldn't see it for the propaganda that it is.
Judith Miller NYT was the (in)famous purveyor of every fatuous made-up story about Iraq. MOST of the MSM were engaged in serial misinformation about Syria, Ukraine, and Libya including the BBC and WSJ.
Where are America's interests in all of this? Who is looking out for our safety, our tax dollars, our future interests, and the lives of our soldiers?
Not the MSM! It seems to me that they have been actively colluding to deceive the American public, and that - yes - they really do deserve the title of "enemy of the people".
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
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More Ukraine-style "color revolution" action from the always-honest NYT:Quote:MORE AT https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/18/opinion/sunday/how-can-we-get-rid-o
How Can We Get Rid of Trump?
We’re just a month into the Trump presidency, and already so many are wondering: How can we end it?
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If there's one thing that invasion of Iraq (Operation "Enduring Freedom") taught me .... which was consequential, expensive, involving 130,000 troops from the USA alone, not counting the contractors, coalition, and various wartime hangers-on, is that
THE UNITED STATES POPULATION CAN BE STAMPEDED INTO ANYTHING
ANYTHING
How it is that somewhere between 47-60% supported the invasion of Iraq? In what real world did the invasion of Iraq make any sense at all??? Didn't anyone bother to take a clear-eyed view of the so-called "threat" and notice that it was bogus? Didn't anyone notice the relentless torrent of propaganda, the rapidly- shifting and escalating narrative ... 9-11- terrorists -Curveball - aluminum tubes - yellowcake - bioweapons - chemical - nuclear- "east west north south somewhat of Baghdad" ... designed to keep everyone in a constant state of fear?
Has nobody noticed that the same techniques are being used to stampede us again now? That each half of our nation is being provoked into attacking the other? In what real world does that even make sense??
So let's look at the so-called Russian threat, because looking at all this in the rearview mirror, it will be demonstrated to be fake news, just like Iraq's fake WMD.
The so-called "Russian threat":
Does Russia have missiles on our border, like we have on theirs?
Is Russia constantly patrolling our coasts, like we do theirs?
Does Russia spend $600 billion on defense, like we do?
Is Russia bringing Mexico, Costa Rica, Cuba, and Brazil into the CSTO, like we've brought Slovakia, Slovenia, and Albania and Croatia into NATO?
Did Russia use the CTSO to destroy Germany, like we did with Iraq and Libya?
Did Russia create a refugee crisis?
Does Russia have 900+ military installations around the world?
What threat does Russia pose to us? Take a chill pill, and come back and tell us all ... finally ... what threat Russia poses to us. It's been a shapeless monster in the dark, used to scare people into destroying their own nation.
Right now, the only thing that is tacking this nation together is procedure. We have supposedly agreed on the rules of the game. Once you decide to overturn procedure, to openly cheer on a shadow government to get your way, you will be taking America back a realm where it hasn't been for about 150 years, if perhaps ever.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Why SECOND'S posts are brainless: "I clocked how much time: no more than 10 minutes per day. With cut-and-paste (Ctrl C and Ctrl V) and AI, none of this takes much time."
Or, any verification or thought.
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