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Originally posted by THGRRI:
What sig calls deep state and rails against is known to the rest of us as the establishment. Sigs solution is to tear it down. Putin's solution is also to tear it down.
It's easy to find fault with a semi-functional world. The way forward is the rule of law. Look back and you'll see we are moving in that direction. Sigs a fool...
I always knew you were a deep-state, anti-democracy suckup, THUGR. You would have been backing King George and the East India Crown Corp in 1775. It's a good thing you and your kind got your asses whupped back then.
Shut up stupid. As Gandalf would say. I'm not here to banter with a witless worm like you comrade. What you claim makes no sense when compared to what I post. No surprise, you do that to everyone.
T
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Quote:Then, why are you?
Originally posted by THGRRI:
What sig calls deep state and rails against is known to the rest of us as the establishment. Sigs solution is to tear it down. Putin's solution is also to tear it down.
It's easy to find fault with a semi-functional world. The way forward is the rule of law. Look back and you'll see we are moving in that direction. Sigs a fool... - THUGR
I always knew you were a deep-state, anti-democracy suckup, THUGR. You would have been backing King George and the East India Crown Corp in 1775. It's a good thing you and your kind got your asses whupped back then.
- SIGNY
Shut up stupid. As Gandalf would say. I'm not here to banter with a witless worm like you comrade. - THUGR
I'm arguing for bringing control of government back to the people. What are YOU arguing for? The wealthy having more and more control? It's easy to see which side you're on: Heil Hitler!
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Then, why are you?
Originally posted by THGRRI:
What sig calls deep state and rails against is known to the rest of us as the establishment. Sigs solution is to tear it down. Putin's solution is also to tear it down.
It's easy to find fault with a semi-functional world. The way forward is the rule of law. Look back and you'll see we are moving in that direction. Sigs a fool... - THUGR
I always knew you were a deep-state, anti-democracy suckup, THUGR. You would have been backing King George and the East India Crown Corp in 1775. It's a good thing you and your kind got your asses whupped back then.
- SIGNY
Shut up stupid. As Gandalf would say. I'm not here to banter with a witless worm like you comrade. - THUGR
I'm arguing for bringing control of government back to the people. What are YOU arguing for? The wealthy having more and more control? It's easy to see which side you're on: Heil Hitler!
If that were true your guns would be pointed at Russia and Trump. Not America and our democratic institutions. And you would not be defending raciest and white supremacists like Putin and Trump.
No, those two things alone show who the Nationalist Socialist Party or fascist totalitarian dictatorship representative is here. You comrade troll, you.
Hey, I'm still awaiting a cease and desist order from your and kiki's lawyer. Lets get to it shall we you fucking Russian troll losers.
T
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Quote:Only you would be stupid enough to confuse the manipulation of our vote by the elite, and the shredding of our Constitution by the security agencies as anything related to "democratic institutions".
If that were true your guns would be pointed at Russia and Trump. Not America and our democratic institutions. [emphasis added] And you would not be defending raciest and white supremacists like Putin and Trump.
Heil Hitler!
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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I always knew you were a deep-state, anti-democracy suckup, THUGR. You would have been backing King George and the East India Crown Corp in 1775. It's a good thing you and your kind got your asses whupped back then.
You see, now that statement right there proves my point: The "Deep State" as you like to call it, has been around for a millennia, maybe two.
You can't have it both ways, Sig.
SGG
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So, I choose the nationalist/ isolationist faction of the deep state over the globalist/interventionist one.
Wait, what!? I've read here in RWED you rail against the Deep State, yet you now profess that if it's kept local, you're fine with it.
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At least the nationalist faction localizes laws and judicial rulings to the United Stated court system -over which we have SOME control - instead of to some faraway private hearing room in Singapore where "they" get to decide what happens to our regulations according to some "free trade" agreement, where the USA Constitution is entirely meaningless and in which we have no hope of representation ever.
By the way, you really believe you can control the Deep State here in the US? You claim that, even though you don't even know who they are? How can that be? And you're really conflating the issue of international trade vs. our domestic laws and regs? You really think that Singapore can influence our domestic laws? No, I don't think so.
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Not all "deep state" factions are equally poisonous. I would be working extra-hard to remove the tentacles of globalist control from the USA government, and that includes the banks'
Work hard all you want dearie, but I'm afraid that you're too late in regards to the banks. That ship has sailed! So, domestic Deep State, good, but international Deep State, bad. Got it!
So you're good with the Deep State manipulating the vote, gun control efforts, banks, wages, health insurance, etc., etc., etc! (sorry, i was watching the King and I recently) and other assorted sundries. My, my I really thought you had it in for the Deep State. I stand corrected.
SGG
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Quote:No, and if you'd been paying attention you wouldn't have posted that. But I will repeat what I've previously posted... probably for the umpteenth time, and maybe you'll get it THIS time. Or maybe not: It seems you have a deep interest in misinterpreting what I've posted.
So, I choose the nationalist/ isolationist faction of the deep state over the globalist/interventionist one.- SIGNY
Wait, what!? I've read here in RWED you rail against the Deep State, yet you now profess that if it's kept local, you're fine with it. - SHINY
Here is part of my reasoning below ... something which you blew right past ...
Quote:Well, yes, we CAN control the deep state here, if - as you said- we set aside our petty differences and stop sniping at each other (like you're doing right now to me).
At least the nationalist faction localizes laws and judicial rulings to the United Stated court system -over which we have SOME control - instead of to some faraway private hearing room in Singapore where "they" get to decide what happens to our regulations according to some "free trade" agreement, where the USA Constitution is entirely meaningless and in which we have no hope of representation ever.- SIGNY
By the way, you really believe you can control the Deep State here in the US? You claim that, even though you don't even know who they are? How can that be?
The reason why the deep state works SO hard to control the narrative, propagandizing us as it does thru screen time nearly every waking moment, is because it DOES make a difference what "most people think". There have been successful mass movements in the past: the civil rights movement, the environmental movement, the anti-Vietnam War movement, women's movement. If there were successful movements in the past, there can be successful movements in the future. Hence, the constant distraction and propagandizing 24/7.
Quote:OF COURSE IT CAN. Have you not paid ANY attention to the "Free Trade" agreements like the TTP and the TTIP? Those agreements ... which were negotiated in secret, and which could only be viewed by Congresspeople in a secure basement room to which they could bring no recording device - not even pencil and paper ... contained provisions which said that regulations (AND THAT INCLUDES Federal, state, and local) that interfered with "customary and usual profits" could be overruled by the trade tribunals. There have ALREADY been cases brought against national governments on the basis that they imposed regulations which interfered with customary and usual profits, and those were adjudicated in secret trade hearings. So not only "could" it happen it already has.
And you're really conflating the issue of international trade vs. our domestic laws and regs? You really think that Singapore can influence our domestic laws? No, I don't think so.- SHINY
So sit up and pay attention! *smacks SHINY in the back of the head*
Here's an example: If someone sells a product which causes cancer into the USA, but it's allowed by a "free trade" agreement, what hope do you suppose that YOU, or your city, country, state, or national government, could be represented anywhere in that system? In what court would you have standing? Oh, that's right: None!
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Not all "deep state" factions are equally poisonous. I would be working extra-hard to remove the tentacles of globalist control from the USA government, and that includes the banks'- SIGNY
Work hard all you want dearie, but I'm afraid that you're too late in regards to the banks. That ship has sailed! - SHINY
I said REMOVE the tentacles of the internationalist Deep State, which means that I recognize they they're already in place. That ship HAS sailed and you're not telling me anything that I don't already know. But we need to turn it around.
As far as their relative toxicity: t
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SGG, a part of what sig tries to promote to achieve her agenda, the destruction of democratic institutions here and abroad, is anarchy. Her posts consistently promote a rebellion against any authority, established order, or ruling power in an otherwise free or global society.
Sig is desperately trying to undermine the building of a fully integrated global entity. Or, any society observing a rule of law that helps to build one. To promote her agenda she is a purveyor of conspiracy theories. Using any lies or disinformation she can to usurp the facts regarding globalization and democratic institutions. Remember her insistence America vote against The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)?
Sig deceptively argues for the transfer of power to a lower level, especially from central government to local or regional administrations. When it comes to trade or dealing with unruly governments i.e. Russia, that leads to protectionism and inaction. That's anti globalization and what the anarchist is all about.
As she does this she labels others as being the very thing she is. She is a troll. She has always been one, or she has evolved into one. Either way she is nothing more than a troll that would see America devolve or retreat from the global stage entirely if she could.
Fuck you comrade sig
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Quote:And here we see THUGR desperately arguing for the expansion of "authority, established order, or ruling power" against American sovereignty. Because he wants to "deal with" other nations and impose our will on them militarily, politically, and economically he is willing to give up our democratic institutions to some sort of private globalist corporatocracy. In other words, he's a true authoritarian, all thrilled to pieces with the imposition of "ruling power" everywhere, just the perfect little nazi. And so I say
SGG, a part of what sig tries to promote to achieve her agenda, the destruction of democratic institutions here and abroad, is anarchy. Her posts consistently promote a rebellion against any authority, established order, or ruling power in an otherwise free or global society.
Sig is desperately trying to undermine the building of a fully integrated global entity. Or, any society observing a rule of law that helps to build one. To promote her agenda she is a purveyor of conspiracy theories. Using any lies or disinformation she can to usurp the facts regarding globalization and democratic institutions. Remember her insistence America vote against The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)?
Sig deceptively argues for the transfer of power to a lower level, especially from central government to local or regional administrations. When it comes to trade or dealing with unruly governments i.e. Russia, that leads to protectionism and inaction. That's anti globalization and what the anarchist is all about.
As she does this she labels others as being the very thing she is. She is a troll. She has always been one, or she has evolved into one. Either way she is nothing more than a troll that would see America devolve or retreat from the global stage entirely if she could.
Fuck you comrade sig
Heil Hitler!
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