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Quote:Let me answer myself since SECOND doesn't seem to be clued in to reality - That thing called the Mueller investigation? Yup, still over.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Did I miss something? Isn't the Mueller investagation (sic) still over?
4 Disturbing Details You May Have Missed in the Mueller Report
Some troubling-to-outright-damning episodes have been lost in the noise around its release.
After two years of silence, the special counsel Robert Mueller recently made his first public remarks — to complain, it seemed, that no one had read his report. “We chose those words carefully,” Mr. Mueller said, “and the work speaks for itself.”
But at a dense 440-plus pages, if the report speaks for itself, it takes a great deal of time and focus to listen to what it has to say. Mr. Mueller tells a complicated story of “multiple, systematic” efforts at Russian election interference from which the Trump campaign was eager to benefit. And he describes a president eager to shut down an investigation into his own abusive conduct. This is far from, as the president put it, “no collusion, no obstruction.”
The document is packed with even more details, ranging from the troubling to the outright damning. Yet these have been lost in the flurry of discussion around the report’s release.
Even the most attentive reader could have trouble keeping track of the report’s loose ends and dropped subplots. Here are four of the most surprising details that you might have missed — and none of them are favorable to the president.
1) Coordinating with WikiLeaks? (Volume I, pp. 52-54)
How much did Mr. Trump personally know about Russian efforts to assist his campaign, and when did he know it? A great deal.
2) Looking for Clinton’s “missing” emails (Volume I, pp. 49, 62-63)
If the term “Collusion” means working behind the scenes with Russian actors to obtain hacked information damaging to Mrs. Clinton, then this section of the report describes just that — collusion that took place at Mr. Trump’s request.
3) Sharing polling data (Volume I, pp. 130-131, 140)
While managing the campaign, Mr. Manafort told Mr. Gates to share “internal polling data” private to the campaign with Mr. Kilimnik, so he could share it with Ukrainian oligarchs and a Russian oligarch. Mr. Gates sent Mr. Kilimnik the data regularly, deleting the WhatsApp messages after he did so. In an in-person meeting with Mr. Kilimnik, Mr. Manafort shared more information about the campaign’s election plans and polling, including information about “battleground states” that would be key to Mr. Trump’s election.
Mr Gates goes on trial in November. Mr. Manafort is in jail.
4) Obstructing justice (Volume II, pp. 90-93)
Attorney General Bill Barr’s view that the president did not obstruct justice is informed by his argument that presidential conduct authorized by the Constitution cannot constitute obstruction. But this does not address conduct that took place outside the scope of the Constitution.
One of many examples outside the scope of the Constitution: “Substantial evidence,” Mr. Mueller writes, “indicates that the president’s effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the special counsel’s investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the president’s and his campaign’s previous conduct.”
More at www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/opinion/mueller-report-trump-impeachment.ht
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:4 Disturbing Details You May Have Missed in the Mueller Report
Originally posted by second:Quote:Let me answer myself since SECOND doesn't seem to be clued in to reality - That thing called the Mueller investigation? Yup, still over.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Did I miss something? Isn't the Mueller investagation (sic) still over?
Some troubling-to-outright-damning episodes have been lost in the noise around its release.
After two years of silence, the special counsel Robert Mueller recently made his first public remarks — to complain, it seemed, that no one had read his report. “We chose those words carefully,” Mr. Mueller said, “and the work speaks for itself.”
But at a dense 440-plus pages, if the report speaks for itself, it takes a great deal of time and focus to listen to what it has to say. Mr. Mueller tells a complicated story of “multiple, systematic” efforts at Russian election interference from which the Trump campaign was eager to benefit. And he describes a president eager to shut down an investigation into his own abusive conduct. This is far from, as the president put it, “no collusion, no obstruction.”
The document is packed with even more details, ranging from the troubling to the outright damning. Yet these have been lost in the flurry of discussion around the report’s release.
Even the most attentive reader could have trouble keeping track of the report’s loose ends and dropped subplots. Here are four of the most surprising details that you might have missed — and none of them are favorable to the president.
1) Coordinating with WikiLeaks? (Volume I, pp. 52-54)
How much did Mr. Trump personally know about Russian efforts to assist his campaign, and when did he know it? A great deal.
2) Looking for Clinton’s “missing” emails (Volume I, pp. 49, 62-63)
If the term “Collusion” means working behind the scenes with Russian actors to obtain hacked information damaging to Mrs. Clinton, then this section of the report describes just that — collusion that took place at Mr. Trump’s request.
3) Sharing polling data (Volume I, pp. 130-131, 140)
While managing the campaign, Mr. Manafort told Mr. Gates to share “internal polling data” private to the campaign with Mr. Kilimnik, so he could share it with Ukrainian oligarchs and a Russian oligarch. Mr. Gates sent Mr. Kilimnik the data regularly, deleting the WhatsApp messages after he did so. In an in-person meeting with Mr. Kilimnik, Mr. Manafort shared more information about the campaign’s election plans and polling, including information about “battleground states” that would be key to Mr. Trump’s election.
Mr Gates goes on trial in November. Mr. Manafort is in jail.
4) Obstructing justice (Volume II, pp. 90-93)
Attorney General Bill Barr’s view that the president did not obstruct justice is informed by his argument that presidential conduct authorized by the Constitution cannot constitute obstruction. But this does not address conduct that took place outside the scope of the Constitution.
One of many examples outside the scope of the Constitution: “Substantial evidence,” Mr. Mueller writes, “indicates that the president’s effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the special counsel’s investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the president’s and his campaign’s previous conduct.”
More at www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/opinion/mueller-report-trump-impeachment.ht
ml
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
At this point in time, Trump's guilt and Barr's complicity are the proverbial low hanging fruit. Bushels of low hanging fruit. Low enough even Nadler can safely reach them. But there are the Dems, standing 50 feet away, starving, considering their options. "I dunno... let's wait until they get even lower, like on the
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At least two "damning details" in the Mueller report have been discovered to have been deceptively edited
1) A phone call from Trumps lawyer (Dowd) to Flynn's lawyer was edited to appear as if Dowd was requesting sensitive information or seeking to obstruct justice, but does not match the actual transcript.
2) A person represented as a "Russian" intel source with links to the Kremlin was actually a UKRAINIAN informant with multiple contacts per day to our embassy in Ukraine, providing reliable information about the UKRAINIAN government to our State Department.
Mueller chose those words carefully indeed! When the report is dug thru in its essentials, it will turn into dust and blow away because there was nothing there to begin with - just rumor, innuendo, and careful editing.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
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Quote:"Rumor, innuendo, and careful editing" is an election strategy. That is also how prosecutors sway juries in criminal trials, not with logic, because your average juror is not a professor of philosophy. It is constitutionally complicated to indict a sitting President, but the calculation would be different if Trump were not President. And, as it happens, there is an election next year, which could lead, fairly quickly, to his exit from the White House. In other words, the way to hold Trump to account criminally is to first hold him to account electorally. Then use the same tactics ("rumor, innuendo, and careful editing") to convince a jury to vote for his conviction.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
When the report is dug thru in its essentials, it will turn into dust and blow away because there was nothing there to begin with - just rumor, innuendo, and careful editing.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Did you also look at his posts under "two" yet?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
One person out of nearly 7 billion is a drop in the bucket, this is true. No tears would be shed by me, cause like I said before, he ain't my Daddy.
I'm just wondering how many times you want to add to the trail of breadcrumbs leading back to your IP address your desire to see one human being in particular meet his maker prematurely either by your own blade or the blade of somebody else.
Maybe you think that this forum is obscure enough that nobody would notice, or maybe you use a VPN and believe the advertisement hype that you're safe from ever being discovered while you type away your death wishes and death threats from atop your ivory tower.
I can assure you that neither is the case.
Do me a favor...
Type the following line between the brackets (not including the brackets themselves, but include the quotation marks) into Google's search bar and tell me what pops up.
[site:fireflyfans.net "The Watergate scandal indicted 69 people, "]
I can also assure you, that this little trick works for any single line of dialogue that you've ever posted here. Even if you were to go back and delete your posts, there's a lot that have been quoted by others after you've posted them.
And all I'm saying is that something were to happen even remotely along any of the lines and scenarios your dark, unfiltered mind decides to defecate on these forums, well... let's just say I hope you have some very powerful friends on your side if that day ever comes to pass.
Just a friendly little tip to somebody who doesn't know how the internet works... :)
Pleasant dreams.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Not sure if you read all the manure that the Trolls posted.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
At least two "damning details" in the Mueller report have been discovered to have been deceptively edited
1) A phone call from Trumps lawyer (Dowd) to Flynn's lawyer was edited to appear as if Dowd was requesting sensitive information or seeking to obstruct justice, but does not match the actual transcript.
2) A person represented as a "Russian" intel source with links to the Kremlin was actually a UKRAINIAN informant with multiple contacts per day to our embassy in Ukraine, providing reliable information about the UKRAINIAN government to our State Department.
Mueller chose those words carefully indeed! When the report is dug thru in its essentials, it will turn into dust and blow away because there was nothing there to begin with - just rumor, innuendo, and careful editing.
Did you notice that your exposed Lie #2 is also the Troll's "fact" #3?
Quote:4 Disturbing Details You May Have Missed in the Mueller Report
Originally posted by second:Quote:Let me answer myself since SECOND doesn't seem to be clued in to reality - That thing called the Mueller investigation? Yup, still over.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Did I miss something? Isn't the Mueller investagation (sic) still over?
Some troubling-to-outright-damning episodes have been lost in the noise around its release.
After two years of silence, the special counsel Robert Mueller recently made his first public remarks — to complain, it seemed, that no one had read his report. “We chose those words carefully,” Mr. Mueller said, “and the work speaks for itself.”
But at a dense 440-plus pages, if the report speaks for itself, it takes a great deal of time and focus to listen to what it has to say. Mr. Mueller tells a complicated story of “multiple, systematic” efforts at Russian election interference from which the Trump campaign was eager to benefit. And he describes a president eager to shut down an investigation into his own abusive conduct. This is far from, as the president put it, “no collusion, no obstruction.”
The document is packed with even more details, ranging from the troubling to the outright damning. Yet these have been lost in the flurry of discussion around the report’s release.
Even the most attentive reader could have trouble keeping track of the report’s loose ends and dropped subplots. Here are four of the most surprising details that you might have missed — and none of them are favorable to the president.
1) Coordinating with WikiLeaks? (Volume I, pp. 52-54)
How much did Mr. Trump personally know about Russian efforts to assist his campaign, and when did he know it? A great deal.
2) Looking for Clinton’s “missing” emails (Volume I, pp. 49, 62-63)
If the term “Collusion” means working behind the scenes with Russian actors to obtain hacked information damaging to Mrs. Clinton, then this section of the report describes just that — collusion that took place at Mr. Trump’s request.
3) Sharing polling data (Volume I, pp. 130-131, 140)
While managing the campaign, Mr. Manafort told Mr. Gates to share “internal polling data” private to the campaign with Mr. Kilimnik, so he could share it with Ukrainian oligarchs and a Russian oligarch. Mr. Gates sent Mr. Kilimnik the data regularly, deleting the WhatsApp messages after he did so. In an in-person meeting with Mr. Kilimnik, Mr. Manafort shared more information about the campaign’s election plans and polling, including information about “battleground states” that would be key to Mr. Trump’s election.
Mr Gates goes on trial in November. Mr. Manafort is in jail.
4) Obstructing justice (Volume II, pp. 90-93)
Attorney General Bill Barr’s view that the president did not obstruct justice is informed by his argument that presidential conduct authorized by the Constitution cannot constitute obstruction. But this does not address
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Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Did you also look at his posts under "two" yet?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
One person out of nearly 7 billion is a drop in the bucket, this is true. No tears would be shed by me, cause like I said before, he ain't my Daddy.
I'm just wondering how many times you want to add to the trail of breadcrumbs leading back to your IP address your desire to see one human being in particular meet his maker prematurely either by your own blade or the blade of somebody else.
Maybe you think that this forum is obscure enough that nobody would notice, or maybe you use a VPN and believe the advertisement hype that you're safe from ever being discovered while you type away your death wishes and death threats from atop your ivory tower.
I can assure you that neither is the case.
Do me a favor...
Type the following line between the brackets (not including the brackets themselves, but include the quotation marks) into Google's search bar and tell me what pops up.
[site:fireflyfans.net "The Watergate scandal indicted 69 people, "]
I can also assure you, that this little trick works for any single line of dialogue that you've ever posted here. Even if you were to go back and delete your posts, there's a lot that have been quoted by others after you've posted them.
And all I'm saying is that something were to happen even remotely along any of the lines and scenarios your dark, unfiltered mind decides to defecate on these forums, well... let's just say I hope you have some very powerful friends on your side if that day ever comes to pass.
Just a friendly little tip to somebody who doesn't know how the internet works... :)
Pleasant dreams.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Could you rephrase the question?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:You DO realize what you've just posted, right? That you don't care if there is any evidence, or indeed even any crime; you want Trump convicted on something as baseless as "rumor, innuendo, and careful editing".
When the report is dug thru in its essentials, it will turn into dust and blow away because there was nothing there to begin with - just rumor, innuendo, and careful editing. SIGNY
"Rumor, innuendo, and careful editing" is an election strategy. That is also how prosecutors sway juries in criminal trials, not with logic, because your average juror is not a professor of philosophy. It is constitutionally complicated to indict a sitting President, but the calculation would be different if Trump were not President. And, as it happens, there is an election next year, which could lead, fairly quickly, to his exit from the White House. In other words, the way to hold Trump to account criminally is to first hold him to account electorally. Then use the same tactics ("rumor, innuendo, and careful editing") to convince a jury to vote for his conviction.
That's pretty un-American. I thought that many of our Constitutional protections had to do with preventing star chamber proceedings, kanagroo courts, and lynchings.
But of course you DON'T recognize what you post. Your hatred (not of Trump, but of yourself) has driven you mad.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .
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Quote:Somewhere, you recently posted that you looked at the history of second's posting, back to about 2013, when he changed his login name. That was when he changed his name from "two" to "second" on this site.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:Could you rephrase the question?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Did you also look at his posts under "two" yet?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
One person out of nearly 7 billion is a drop in the bucket, this is true. No tears would be shed by me, cause like I said before, he ain't my Daddy.
I'm just wondering how many times you want to add to the trail of breadcrumbs leading back to your IP address your desire to see one human being in particular meet his maker prematurely either by your own blade or the blade of somebody else.
Maybe you think that this forum is obscure enough that nobody would notice, or maybe you use a VPN and believe the advertisement hype that you're safe from ever being discovered while you type away your death wishes and death threats from atop your ivory tower.
I can assure you that neither is the case.
Do me a favor...
Type the following line between the brackets (not including the brackets themselves, but include the quotation marks) into Google's search bar and tell me what pops up.
[site:fireflyfans.net "The Watergate scandal indicted 69 people, "]
I can also assure you, that this little trick works for any single line of dialogue that you've ever posted here. Even if you were to go back and delete your posts, there's a lot that have been quoted by others after you've posted them.
And all I'm saying is that something were to happen even remotely along any of the lines and scenarios your dark, unfiltered mind decides to defecate on these forums, well... let's just say I hope you have some very powerful friends on your side if that day ever comes to pass.
Just a friendly little tip to somebody who doesn't know how the internet works... :)
Pleasant dreams.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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When will the Mueller Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition be over?
Maybe Mueller can resign, or something.![]()
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