Mueller Investigation Is Over / Part two are the trials. Hey Jack, I Was Right. 20 Plus Russians Charged, 19 Of Trumps People Convicted of Felonies.
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Quote:I always wondered about that ... what about Hillarity? She didn't just intend to get dirt for the election from foreigners, there's an official whole DNC bought and paid for report in the hands of the intelligence agencies, Congress, and who knows where all else in the bowels of government. Yanno, the 'Steele' thing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hillary took dirt about Trump from a foreigner, and he got it from another foreigner (Russian, he says, but probably Ukrainian).
Obama accepted dirt from a foreigner and turned it into an investigation.
I know the Hillarity aspect used to be brought up occasionally, only to be quickly brushed away - 'well, SHE's not president'. No one ever asked the question why that didn't make a difference.
And now it looks like Obama had a hand in foreign-assisted campaign dirt-digging.
I truly hope there's a very broad investigation into everyone involved - Americans from both parties and foreigners alike. Justice has to be equal and impartial to be just.
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Quote:Republicans are claiming Hillary Clinton’s campaign did something similar by commissioning a firm that hired a former British spy, Christopher Steele. It is not similar. The Republicans are wrong because the huge difference is that Steele got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oh, and the Democrats didn’t lie about it, like Trump did about the Russians’ help/work/hack/steal on his campaign.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:I always wondered about that ... what about Hillarity? She didn't just intend to get dirt for the election from foreigners, there's an official whole DNC bought and paid for report in the hands of the intelligence agencies, Congress, and who knows where all else in the bowels of government. Yanno, the 'Steele' thing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hillary took dirt about Trump from a foreigner, and he got it from another foreigner (Russian, he says, but probably Ukrainian).
Obama accepted dirt from a foreigner and turned it into an investigation.
I know the Hillarity aspect used to be brought up occasionally, only to be quickly brushed away - 'well, SHE's not president'. No one ever asked the question why that didn't make a difference.
And now it looks like Obama had a hand in foreign-assisted campaign dirt-digging.
I truly hope there's a very broad investigation into everyone involved - Americans from both parties and foreigners alike. Justice has to be equal and impartial to be just.
“I would not have thought I needed to say this,” Federal Election Commission head Ellen Weintraub tweeted regarding a statement she’d issued outlining why it’s illegal for US political candidates to accept contributions from foreign governments.
“Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
“This is not a novel concept,” she wrote. “Election intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the founding of our nation.”
“It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
And when it comes to foreign influence, the law is clear: As Weintraub wrote, it is “illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
In most cases, what this means is pretty obvious: Foreign nationals can’t donate money to a presidential campaign. It’s also illegal for candidates themselves to solicit or receive monetary contributions from foreign nationals.
But while a “thing of value” is easy to define when it comes to money, or even services or in-kind contributions, it’s a lot more complicated when it comes to something like opposition research, or so-called campaign dirt.
“Campaign-relevant information from a foreign national definitely can be an illegal in-kind contribution, but it gets trickier when the information does not have obvious cash value and isn’t necessarily something that a campaign regularly needs to buy,” wrote Michael Kang, a law professor at Northwestern University. “The policy concern is that any valuable advice or tip from a foreign national could, at least in theory, become an illegal in-kind contribution.”
More at www.vox.com/2019/6/14/18677631/trump-campaign-finance-law-fec-illegal-
fbi
The FEC chair: “It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, Republicans are claiming Hillary Clinton’s campaign did something similar by commissioning a firm that hired a former British spy, Christopher Steele. It is not similar. The Republicans are wrong because the huge difference is that Steele got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oh, and the Democrats didn’t lie about it, like Trump did about the Russians’ help/work/hack/steal on his campaign. Russia did it for free, too!
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
WTF was the Steele Dossier?
Oh... that's right.
Ignorance of the law being no excuse only applies to proles.
But Hillary and the DNC had no idea that Fusion GPS subcontracted the work out to Steele's firm, and Steele had no idea that the research he was doing was for Hillary.
That's rather convenient for all parties involved.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
“I would not have thought I needed to say this,” Federal Election Commission head Ellen Weintraub tweeted regarding a statement she’d issued outlining why it’s illegal for US political candidates to accept contributions from foreign governments.
“Let me make something 100% clear to the American public and anyone running for public office: It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
“This is not a novel concept,” she wrote. “Election intervention from foreign governments has been considered unacceptable since the founding of our nation.”
“It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
And when it comes to foreign influence, the law is clear: As Weintraub wrote, it is “illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
In most cases, what this means is pretty obvious: Foreign nationals can’t donate money to a presidential campaign. It’s also illegal for candidates themselves to solicit or receive monetary contributions from foreign nationals.
But while a “thing of value” is easy to define when it comes to money, or even services or in-kind contributions, it’s a lot more complicated when it comes to something like opposition research, or so-called campaign dirt.
“Campaign-relevant information from a foreign national definitely can be an illegal in-kind contribution, but it gets trickier when the information does not have obvious cash value and isn’t necessarily something that a campaign regularly needs to buy,” wrote Michael Kang, a law professor at Northwestern University. “The policy concern is that any valuable advice or tip from a foreign national could, at least in theory, become an illegal in-kind contribution.”
More at www.vox.com/2019/6/14/18677631/trump-campaign-finance-law-fec-illegal-
fbi
The FEC chair: “It is illegal for any person to solicit, accept, or receive anything of value from a foreign national in connection with a U.S. election.”
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
WTF was the Steele Dossier?
Oh... that's right.
Ignorance of the law being no excuse only applies to proles.
But Hillary and the DNC had no idea that Fusion GPS subcontracted the work out to Steele's firm, and Steele had no idea that the research he was doing was for Hillary.
That's rather convenient for all parties involved.
Try again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Trump has had two Attorney Generals and one acting Attorney General, and two heads of the FBI and one acting head of the FBI, but none of them have indicted Hillary. I welcome Attorney General Barr indicting Hillary, yet he just can't seem to get around to it. Who knows why? Maybe because he has got nothing?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
WTF was the Steele Dossier?
Oh... that's right.
Ignorance of the law being no excuse only applies to proles.
But Hillary and the DNC had no idea that Fusion GPS subcontracted the work out to Steele's firm, and Steele had no idea that the research he was doing was for Hillary.
That's rather convenient for all parties involved.
Try again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Fox hosts give Trump chilling news about his open collusion invitation
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Trump isn’t a president, he’s a gangster.
Russia, if you’re listening, La Cosa Nostra has moved into La Casa Bianca.
The FBI had to wiretap mafia bosses like John Gotti and Vincent “The Chin” Gigante to catch them breaking the law. All they had to do to catch Donald Trump on Wednesday night was turn on ABC News. Trump proceeded to commit multiple felonies out in the open on national television when he told George Stephanopoulos he would be happy to accept dirt on his opponent from foreign governments in his 2020 re-election campaign.
Trump looked like he’d been gobbling Adderall. His pupils were pinned, and he kept doing that thing with his hands, holding them in front of himself and moving them apart and then together impatiently, talking to Stephanopoulos like he was a school child just learning about politics rather than the seasoned operative he is (Stephanopoulos was one of the architects of the Bill Clinton campaign when he won the presidency in 1992 and has covered political campaigns as a reporter and news anchor in the decades since then).
But perhaps Trump was right. Maybe Stephanopoulos needs a good talking to from the Capo du tutti capo on Pennsylvania Avenue. Doesn’t George get it that politicians are no different from gangsters? They don’t go to the FBI and turn each other in. They don’t report crimes. They commit them, and they keep their mouths shut.
www.salon.com/2019/06/15/trump-isnt-a-president-hes-a-gangster/
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Quote:What??? You're saying that it's "better" because Hillary PAID A LOT OF MONEY FOR THE FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE?
Hillary took dirt about Trump from a foreigner, and he got it from another foreigner (Russian, he says, but probably Ukrainian).
Obama accepted dirt from a foreigner and turned it into an investigation.- SIGNY
I always wondered about that ... what about Hillarity? She didn't just intend to get dirt for the election from foreigners, there's an official whole DNC bought and paid for report in the hands of the intelligence agencies, Congress, and who knows where all else in the bowels of government. Yanno, the 'Steele' thing.
I know the Hillarity aspect used to be brought up occasionally, only to be quickly brushed away - 'well, SHE's not president'. No one ever asked the question why that didn't make a difference.
And now it looks like Obama had a hand in foreign-assisted campaign dirt-digging.
I truly hope there's a very broad investigation into everyone involved - Americans from both parties and foreigners alike. Justice has to be equal and impartial to be just.- KIKI
Republicans are claiming Hillary Clinton’s campaign did something similar by commissioning a firm that hired a former British spy, Christopher Steele. It is not similar. The Republicans are wrong because the huge difference is that Steele got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars... SECONDRATE
Dood, can you please explain to me why that's "better"?
Quote:Maybe you don't remember the conclusion in the Mueller Report? It said ... NO COLLUSION.
Oh, and the Democrats didn’t lie about it, like Trump did about the Russians’ help/work/hack/steal on his campaign.
Dood, you're brain-damaged. You're like the Alzheimer's patient who can't absorb new information, forming ever-more bizarre theories about why things happend that they can't realistically explain. Like the elderly woman I met who told me that strangers come into her house and shoot blue string all over her bedroom, because she doesn't remember how it got there.
That's called "confabulation", which is a fancy term for "making up stories to explain things after the fact". I SAID you'd spend the next 15 posts ... or maybe 1500 posts, come to think of it ... confabulating, and here you are .... confabulating.
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Quote:Trump pleaded amnesia to Mueller: “I have no recollection of learning at the time that . . .”
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Very funny, Signym.
“I have no independent recollection of what . . .”
“I do not recall being aware during the campaign of . . .”
RESPONSES OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP, Appendix C of Mueller Report www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf
www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/politics/full-mueller-report-pdf/index.html
Putin did not pretend to have amnesia. He didn’t respond at all to questions from Mueller. That was okay with Mueller, who shrugged it off, concluding that he couldn’t prove Trump and Putin had sex. Then Mueller indicted Russians working for Putin. But Mueller couldn’t prove that Trump’s orders to those Russians were accurately relayed by Putin, since Putin won’t speak to Mueller. Therefore: "No Collusion, Complete Exoneration" to quote Trump.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Trump has had two Attorney Generals and one acting Attorney General, and two heads of the FBI and one acting head of the FBI, but none of them have indicted Hillary. I welcome Attorney General Barr indicting Hillary, yet he just can't seem to get around to it. Who knows why? Maybe because he has got nothing?
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
WTF was the Steele Dossier?
Oh... that's right.
Ignorance of the law being no excuse only applies to proles.
But Hillary and the DNC had no idea that Fusion GPS subcontracted the work out to Steele's firm, and Steele had no idea that the research he was doing was for Hillary.
That's rather convenient for all parties involved.
Try again.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Yup.
And nobody's tried to impeach Trump yet either.
Please. Somebody just get the ball rolling on that so we can stop talking about it already.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Nobody has looked at criminally prosecuting Trump's tax evasion, either. We know he is doing it, but he has not been criminally prosecuted/facing a jail sentence even once in his life. It is unsurprising that Hillary is not being criminally prosecuted, either, because there is less on her than on Trump. www.ais-cpa.com/tax-fraud-by-the-numbers-the-trump-timeline/
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.
And nobody's tried to impeach Trump yet either.
Please. Somebody just get the ball rolling on that so we can stop talking about it already.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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