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Saturday, January 26, 2019 5:35 PM

You and JO took Friday off?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, January 26, 2019 5:37 PM

BTW.... Says there are 313 posts on this thread, but my last post would only be 301 at 50 per page.

Who's deleting their posts here?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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THG
Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:44 PM

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SGG, a part of what sig tries to promote to achieve her agenda, the destruction of democratic institutions here and abroad, is anarchy. Her posts consistently promote a rebellion against any authority, established order, or ruling power in an otherwise free or global society.

Sig is desperately trying to undermine the building of a fully integrated global entity. Or, any society observing a rule of law that helps to build one. To promote her agenda she is a purveyor of conspiracy theories. Using any lies or disinformation she can to usurp the facts regarding globalization and democratic institutions. Remember her insistence America vote against The Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)?

Sig deceptively argues for the transfer of power to a lower level, especially from central government to local or regional administrations. When it comes to trade or dealing with unruly governments i.e. Russia, that leads to protectionism and inaction. That's anti globalization and what the anarchist is all about.

As she does this she labels others as being the very thing she is. She is a troll. She has always been one, or she has evolved into one. Either way she is nothing more than a troll that would see America devolve or retreat from the global stage entirely if she could.

Fuck you comrade sig


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THG
Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:49 PM

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When impeachment is discussed it is with the understanding something egregious has or will occur.
THUGR you're just a fucking fascist. Most people wait until a crime has been committed BEFORE the trial. Good lord, you even post about "the rule of law" and then dismiss it completely!

I think we should arrest YOU, because I'm sure you'll do something treasonous. You're already posting about it.





13 Russians indicted.


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Friday, November 22, 2019 1:18 AM

highly edited - see link for entire article


The Deep State: The Headless Fourth Branch of Government

The fourth is what for decades now has been called a "headless fourth branch of government," the administrative state. ... Moreover, as the New Deal progressed, the regulatory agencies came to assume all the powers that were supposed to be reserved to the branches of government that were given specific powers in the federal constitution. "These agencies have built up a large body of administrative law which the people are obliged to obey. And not only to they make their own laws; they enforce their own laws, acting as prosecutor, jury and judge; and appeal form their decisions to the regular courts is difficult. … Thus the Constitutional separation of the three governmental powers, namely, the legislative, the executive and the judicial is entirely lost."

At the same time the regulatory administrative state was making so many gains, so was the federal government's domestic police force.

First came the Justice Department's Bureau of Investigation — later the FBI ... Over time, Hoover would work tirelessly to turn the FBI into a law unto itself, using it to blackmail politicians, harass innocent Americans, and generally twist American law and the American political system to benefit Hoover, his cronies, and the FBI itself.

Things became worse after the Second World War when Congress made permanent the intelligence agencies that had formed during the war to gather intelligence on the Axis.

These organizations — most notably the Central Intelligence Agency — would come to function virtually without oversight, with most of their activities declared too secret to endure public scrutiny. Over time, these ostensibly civilian organizations would become increasingly intertwined with the growing "special operations" arms of the Department of Defense. By the early twenty-first century, the Pentagon would develop "its own clandestine intelligence" capabilities and take over many of the "covert paramilitary activities and unconventional warfare" operations once directed by the CIA.

The strategic use of "leaks," reports, investigations, and criminal prosecutions through the Justice Department allow the intelligence organs of the United States to "nudge" policymakers in directions that service the preferred agenda of the security agencies themselves.

https://mises.org/wire/deep-state-headless-fourth-branch-government

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Friday, November 22, 2019 1:20 AM

There is of course the military-industrial complex. And the international deep-pockets Deep State, the financial sector at the moment in the ascendancy.

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Friday, November 22, 2019 1:22 AM

As Signy posted, America is an oligarchy.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/artic
le/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B


Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens

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Sunday, December 1, 2019 9:54 PM


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Newsweek Reporter Fired After Peddling Fake News That Trump Golfed On Thanksgiving

Newsweek has fired a reporter who penned a snarky, misleading article suggesting that President Trump spent Thanksgiving 'tweeting and golfing,' when he actually flew to Afghanistan for a surprise visit with US troops.

The fired journo, Jessica Kwong, wrote in an article entitled "How is Trump Spending Thanksgiving? Tweeting, Golfing and More," that the president "has been spending his Thanksgiving holidays at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida."

The golfing claim comes later in the article, as Kwong notes that Trump played golf on Thanksgiving Eve "from mid-morning to mid-afternoon." The headline, of course, suggests Trump golfed on Thanksgiving.

After Trump popped up in Afghanistan, Kwong and Newsweek took heat over Twitter for refusing to edit the article or delete the viral tweet promoting the lie.

This caught the attention of the Trump family, who promptly called out the beleaguered news outlet:

I thought Newsweek was out of business? https://t.co/3ro4eSJloo
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 29, 2019


Eventually, Kwong caved by deleting her tweet, and Newsweek edited the article - at first with no mention of the edit, and then an editors note only after virtually the entire piece had been rewritten.

"This story has been substantially updated and edited at 6:17 pm EST to reflect the president's surprise trip to Afghanistan. Additional reporting by James Crowley," reads the update.

"Newsweek investigated the failures that led to the publication of the inaccurate report that President Trump spent Thanksgiving tweeting and golfing rather than visiting troops in Afghanistan," a Newsweek spokesperson told The New York Post in an email. "The story has been corrected and the journalist responsible has been terminated. We will continue to review our processes and, if required, take further action."

After Trump tweeted "I thought Newsweek was out of business?," The Wrap reminds us that "The former owners of the publication and a faith-based online media company were accused of attempting to defraud lenders in an indictment filed in October 2018," adding "High-ranking editorial staffers have been leaving the publication and three senior editorial staffers were fired in retaliation for a story about a legal investigation into the company in February 2018."

Not quite out of business, but certainly not in a position to afford further reputational risk from obvious fake news.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/newsweek-reporter-fired-after-pedd
ling-fake-news-trump-golfed-thanksgiving



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Sunday, December 1, 2019 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

"Newsweek investigated the failures that led to the publication of the inaccurate report that President Trump spent Thanksgiving tweeting and golfing rather than visiting troops in Afghanistan," a Newsweek spokesperson told The New York Post in an email. "The story has been corrected and the journalist responsible has been terminated. We will continue to review our processes and, if required, take further action."



Wouldn't it be great if every White House staffer, administration and cabinet member, and Trump TV "reporter" who made up shit was terminated so quickly? Trump, gone. Pence, gone. Mulvaney, gone. Conway, gone. Miller, gone...

Bravo Newsweek, for setting a higher standard for truth and accuracy than the White House (which actually isn't that hard).

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THG
Sunday, December 1, 2019 11:06 PM

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MISSING IN ACTION:

Democratic Party leadership discussion of the deep state

Republican Party leadership discussion of the deep state




The Key Players In Trump’s ‘Deep State’ Conspiracy Theory Are All Republicans

WASHINGTON — The key law enforcement figures in what President Donald Trump and his allies have characterized as a “deep state” conspiracy against him are not lefties or even Democrats: They are Republicans. And Trump picked a number of them himself.

Trump and Republicans are continuing to attack the nation’s top law enforcement organizations to undermine the special counsel investigation into his campaign, which has already resulted in criminal charges against four Trump associates. But factually speaking, it’s really tough for Trump backers to credibly argue that the deck has been stacked against the president, simply based on the political leanings of the key figures in the case.

Robert Mueller III, aka “Bobby Three Sticks,” is the special counsel tasked with investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russia. His probe is the true target of the classified memo Republicans wrote that Trump is moving to release this week.

Mueller is a Republican. After serving in Vietnam and earning a Bronze Star, Mueller became a federal prosecutor and landed at Justice Department headquarters during the George H.W. Bush administration. The younger Bush nominated him to become FBI director in 2001, and he was confirmed unanimously. The Senate liked him so much that they voted — once again unanimously — to extend his term. After he left the FBI in 2013, he joined the law firm WilmerHale as a partner.

Presumably, Mueller would have stayed in this lucrative position until retirement. But after Trump fired former FBI Director James Comey and later said he hoped it would help end the Russia probe, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had little choice but to appoint a special counsel to head the investigation. Under immense pressure to choose someone members of both parties would find credible, he chose Mueller.

For some reason, Trump thinks Rosenstein — the man he nominated as his deputy attorney general — is a Democrat. “There are very few Republicans in Baltimore, if any,” Trump told The New York Times last year as he discussed Rosenstein.

Rosenstein is not from Baltimore; he just worked out of an office there. And he is a Republican. He even wrote the memo that the White House used as justification for firing Comey over his handling of the Clinton probe, even though Trump quickly undermined it by saying it actually fired Comey because of the Russia probe.

Rosenstein has now found himself targeted by members of his own party, with his decisions reportedly questioned in the GOP-authored classified memo that Trump hopes will undermine the Russia probe.

FBI Director Christopher Wray, who angered Trump because the FBI released a statement essentially calling the GOP-authored memo bogus, is another Republican. Former President George W. Bush nominated him in 2003 to be the assistant attorney general in charge of the Justice Department’s criminal division. After leaving government in 2005 to work as a private lawyer, Wray represented New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican candidate for president, during the Bridgegate scandal. Trump selected Wray to be the FBI director after he fired Comey last year.

Comey was a registered Republican, but is now resident of Virginia, which does not have party registration. He was the deputy attorney general under the younger Bush. Former President Barack Obama appointed him to head the FBI in 2013. While overseeing the bureau’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server three years later, Comey made the controversial decision to publicly slam Clinton’s handling of classified information before announcing that the Justice Department would not be pressing charges. Days before the election, Comey told lawmakers — who quickly told the world — about the FBI’s decision to reopen the Clinton

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