Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
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Quote:Trump didn't have any business in Russia. Cohen couldn't even get through the front door to talk to anybody to create any business in Russia. Furthermore, Trump had no interactions with representatives of Russia. (While the article is squishy about it, when it says "representatives of Russia" presumably it means official representatives of the Russian state.)
Originally posted by SECOND-RATE:
Trump himself repeatedly stated since entering the presidential race in June 2015 that he had no business in Russia and no interactions with representatives of Russia.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:Trump didn't have any business in Russia. Cohen couldn't even get through the front door to talk to anybody to create any business in Russia. Furthermore, Trump had no interactions with representatives of Russia. (While the article is squishy about it, when it says "representatives of Russia" presumably it means official representatives of the Russian state.)
Originally posted by SECOND-RATE:
Trump himself repeatedly stated since entering the presidential race in June 2015 that he had no business in Russia and no interactions with representatives of Russia.
2013 Trump owned Miss Universe in Russia
https://bit.ly/2o7JEWT
Trump Jr flapping his gums: "2008: Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., told investors in Moscow that the Trump Organization had trademarked the Donald Trump name in Russia and planned to build housing and hotels in Moscow, St. Petersburg and Sochi, and sell licenses to other developers, the Russian daily Kommersant reported. “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump Jr. said at the time. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia."
Other entries into Russian business world:
https://bit.ly/2GlQAx6
Even More:
https://wapo.st/2h6v9UX
We all should have learned by now that Trump is a compulsive liar. If anything, we all should have learned that the opposite of what he says is usually the truth.
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"trademarked the Donald Trump name in Russia"
Let me point out that a trademark isn't a business. ALSO - the more I read about the various goings-on, the more it becomes evident that nearly all of claims made by pretty much everybody are just so much gum-flapping by people who are pretending things exist that don't. People pretend to have an 'in' with Putin, Trump Jr pretends to have viable business opportunities in Russia. And so on.
And as I suspected from my first reading re the 'Trump Tower' meeting many months ago, everybody was trying to scam the campaign.
Trump Jr was never in direct contact with Emin Agalarov who's father supposedly had dirt on Hillary. "Trump Jr. responded: Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?" It looks like Trump Jr was trying to do due diligence on a random contact that came his way, and was being open ENOUGH to finally get to see the goods. ... Which as we know was nothing about dirt on Hillary.
Felix Sate was scamming Cohen about his contacts within Russia (with zero results) to the point that Cohen had to send an email to a general public address he got off the internet - but he never got a reply.
And so on.
There were never any contacts made, never any agreements, never any potential for either quid pro quo or extortion in any of these non-events. Really, how can you be extorted over nothing?
Meanwhile - FROM YOUR OWN LINKS
Quote:I don't need to go any further to know that TRUMP HAD NO BUSINESS IN RUSSIA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Rus
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Trump was never able to successfully conclude any real estate deals in Russia.
No matter how much you're trying to sell that scam.
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I think this is the perfect place to cross-post what was posted elsewhere:
What Rachel Maddow spews 24/7. Keep in mind: This is all from ONE show
How the M$M treats Trump
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"trademarked the Donald Trump name in Russia"
Let me point out that a trademark isn't a business. ALSO - the more I read about the various goings-on, the more it becomes evident that nearly all of claims made by pretty much everybody are just so much gum-flapping by people who are pretending things exist that don't. People pretend to have an 'in' with Putin, Trump Jr pretends to have viable business opportunities in Russia. And so on.
And as I suspected from my first reading re the 'Trump Tower' meeting many months ago, everybody was trying to scam the campaign.
Trump Jr was never in direct contact with Emin Agalarov who's father supposedly had dirt on Hillary. "Trump Jr. responded: Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?" It looks like Trump Jr was trying to do due diligence on a random contact that came his way, and was being open ENOUGH to finally get to see the goods. ... Which as we know was nothing about dirt on Hillary.
Felix Sate was scamming Cohen about his contacts within Russia (with zero results) to the point that Cohen had to send an email to a general public address he got off the internet - but he never got a reply.
And so on.
There were never any contacts made, never any agreements, never any potential for either quid pro quo or extortion in any of these non-events. Really, how can you be extorted over nothing?
Meanwhile - FROM YOUR OWN LINKSQuote:I don't need to go any further to know that TRUMP HAD NO BUSINESS IN RUSSIA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_projects_of_Donald_Trump_in_Rus
sia
Trump was never able to successfully conclude any real estate deals in Russia.
No matter how much you're trying to sell that scam.
Goddamn, Kiki - use your head. Sorry - Trump's kid? Maybe you didn't read that or just choose to recklessly ignore it? You use ignorance as a shield.
Miss Universe - oops! Business in Russia. Not to mention the deals he did in the US with Russians. He's the great deal maker, remember? And what makes you think EVERY deal he's ever done is public? On his taxes though... he's such a chiseler he would risk getting a tax break for a Russian business deal and just hope he could hide it forever.
It shows his desire to work deals in Russia over the course of DECADES - do you see that? No quid pro quo? So he's banging on Russia's door trying to get in. You don't think a deal could be worked to accommodate that? You know nothing of how deals get done.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think this is the perfect place to cross-post what was posted elsewhere:
What Rachel Maddow spews 24/7. Keep in mind: This is all from ONE show
How the M$M treats Trump
It's so fun watching you and Jack being desperate!
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Quote:Had a meeting with a lawyer who had no information or connection to offer the campaign. In fact, Trump Jr got a bait-and switch. He got scammed.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Goddamn, Kiki - use your head. Sorry - Trump's kid?
Quote:Trump was paid a $20M one-time fee in 2013 for hosting the pageant. Meanwhile, Bill Clinton got a $500,000 one-time speaking fee for speaking in Russia. If Clinton's one time fee wasn't a 'business' - as in, an ongoing profit-making financial organization - neither was Trump's.
Miss Universe - oops! Business in Russia.
Quote:'Deals'. With 'Russians'. 'In the US'. Are you too ignorant to understand that those 'deals' - in the US, not Russia - with 'Russians' - don't constitute business in Russia? I guess you are.
Not to mention the deals he did in the US with Russians.
Even SECOND-RATE's article admits that when Trump said he had no business in Russia he was speaking the truth. It did say that 'technically' it was the truth. But then, the truth is the truth, 'technically' or not.
Quote:Your claim is the Trump had business in Russia.
It shows his desire to work deals in Russia
In Russia - in the US - with 'Russians' - with Putin - it's just all one big pile of mashed potatoes in your head, isn't it?
Quote:Trump had a one-time fee for a one-time event. Nothing else.
over the course of DECADES - do you see that?
Quote:Nope. No quid pro quo.
No quid pro quo?
Quote:It looks more like peripheral people were banging on Trump's door, trying to get in. Butina. Veselnitskaya. Agalarov. Sate. And others.
So he's banging on Russia's door trying to get in.
But how is Trump responsible for their actions?
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Quote:But let me follow up on this. What is your experience? Inform us all how this kind of thing happens.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
You know nothing of how deals get done.
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You know nothing of how deals get done. - GSTRING
But let me follow up on this. What is your experience? Inform us all how this kind of thing happens.- KIKI
I would bet $1000 that GSTRING never answers this question, but nobody here will bet against me.
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It's so fun watching GSTRING and THUGR and JO being desperate!
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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Still No Evidence.
Trolls are getting frothy.
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