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Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?
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Saturday, December 15, 2018 7:01 AM
I think this needs its own thread. SIG pulls most of her information that she posts here from this blog and stupidly defends it as a reputable source. As she continues to do so I will regenerate this thread to remind all it is a corrupted blog designed to create havoc rather than informing.
Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge.
In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”
All of this matches SIG's playbook here and Putin's globally; exactly.
The men behind zero hedge
Colin Lokey, a 32-year-old former Seeking Alpha director
Daniel Ivandjiiski, a 37-year-old Bulgarian-born former hedge fund employee who was barred for insider trading in 2008
Tim Backshall, a 45-year-old credit derivatives strategist
Despite its populist tone, Lokey told Bloomberg he recently left Zero Hedge because he didn’t see eye-to-eye with the others when it came to editorial vision.
“Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey said. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.”
In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.”
Lokey claims Zero Hedge’s focus on traffic and revenue is hypocritical, but Ivandjiiski sees things differently.
Finally, Zero Hedge addressed the accusations of systematic bias in its content.
“We are certainly ok with being the object of other’s conspiracy theories, in this case completely false ones since we have never been in contact with anyone in Russia, or the US, or any government for that matter,” Zero Hedge says.
The site claims it has never accepted a dime of funding outside of advertising revenue and that Lokey was never pressured about how to frame his articles or editorialized.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zero-hedge-unmasked-theres-more-1427301
65.html
According to the Bloomberg article, three men have been churning out all of the content at Zero Hedge, using the joint pseudonym “Tyler Durden” from the Brad Pitt film “Fight Club.” The 1999 cult film, according to Rolling Stone, is “about being young, male and powerless against the pacifying drug of consumerism. It’s about solitude, despair and bottled-up rage.” That ethos is frequently on display at Zero Hedge.
The three “Tyler Durdens” outed by Bloomberg reporters are Colin Lokey, who has now left Zero Hedge in a fit of pique and is responsible for handing over the internal chat sessions from Zero Hedge on traffic-building strategies and other matters. Bloomberg says “the other two men are Daniel Ivandjiiski, 37, the Bulgarian-born former analyst long reputed to be behind the site, and Tim Backshall, 45, a well-known credit derivatives strategist.”
The article notes that “Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb,” suggesting these are “not exactly reflections” of the anti-capitalism reflected in the moniker “Tyler Durden.”
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!Quote:
"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move
... Reporters began to gather more than an hour before arguments were scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m., however no members ofNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:30 AM
Quote:The words in the linky say Manhattan Court, but your quoted text says DC Court and DC circuit.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look! ZeroHedge ... the source you love to hate! ... may have some late-breaking gossip!Quote:
"Absolute Mayhem" In DC Court As Mueller May Have Made A Move
... Reporters began to gather more than an hour before arguments were scheduled to begin at 9:30 a.m., however no members of Mueller's team, anyone connected to the Russia investigation, or anyone from the Trump administration were spotted. After arguments began, reporters began to huddle outside the courtroom in the hopes of discovering more about the case.
The first case was argued. Then the second. Still nothing. At the end of arguments in the second case, court employees instructed everyone in the courtroom to leave. Court staff and security officials then cleared the entire floor, an unusual occurrence in the courthouse. Reporters scattered, staking out other hallways, stairwells, and exits. At one point at least 20 journalists roamed the courthouse building and its grounds.
After roughly an hour and a half, reporters were allowed back onto the floor, although the courtroom was locked and it wasn't clear if arguments had ended. A little after noon, the courtroom deputy confirmed that the judges were, in fact, done hearing arguments for the day.
"I'm ready to go to sleep forever," one reporter was heard saying as she boarded an elevator to leave. -BuzzFeed
In short - something apparently big happened today in a DC court, which may or may not involve the special counsel's investigation, and nobody knows anything about the case outside of public records showing that the sealed grand jury case was filed in August, made two trips to the DC circuit, lost one appeal - and a second appeal was heard by a three-judge panel on Friday.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-14/absolute-mayhem-manhattan-co
urt-mueller-may-have-made-move
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 1:37 AM
Trolls seem to get frothed up about No Evidence.
Looking like there will never be any Evidence.
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:08 AM
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not seeing anything offhand to carry over from the other thread. If I do, I will add it here >>>>
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Although, I DO have to say that those who are (were?) convinced of "Russian hacking" and "Russian collusion" seem to be posting a contradictory message: On the one hand, they keep pointing to "evidence", and on the other hand they excuse it's lack by saying Well, what do you think Meuller is going to do? Release evidence as soon as he finds it?". You guys - pick one or the other, you can't credibly have both.
OK, after all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty and as we know there are more to come, I guess sig is ready to admit there was Russian hacking and collusion.
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 3:44 AM
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Originally posted by THG:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:21 AM
I guess the news that 14 of Trumps campaign staff had contacts with the Russians during and after the campaign then lied about it, hasn't reached comrade kiki yet.
I'm sure when it does she'll admit to collusion between the two. I mean, who could be so stupid not the realize that?
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:29 AM
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Originally posted by THG:
I guess the news that 14 of Trumps campaign staff had "contacts" with some random "Russians" that weren't actually about collusion hasn't sunk into my thick skull yet.
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 4:08 PM
Quote:By repeatedly screaming “NO COLLUSION” Trump has framed the investigation as being about something that legal experts say isn’t even a crime — rather than, say, obstruction of justice.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Trolls seem to get frothed up about No Evidence.
Looking like there will never be any Evidence.
“Most criminals are convicted often on significant circumstantial evidence, but in the case of politicians, people who like them insist, ‘Show me the money, show me the smoking gun,'” says Paul Rosenzweig, who worked on Ken Starr’s investigation of Bill Clinton.
Prosecutors complain that jurors demand unrealistic levels of forensic evidence of criminality. Trump has capitalized on this by claiming in at least 20 tweets that Mueller doesn’t have “evidence” of crimes committed by him. But the circumstantial evidence of wrongdoing by the president is becoming overwhelming, even though Trump’s supporters are holding out for that smoking gun.
Trump's messaging strategy has set monumentally high standards for Mueller’s investigation; the growing convictions against all his henchmen are offset by the repeated insistence that Mueller has nothing directly on Trump himself.
That wouldn’t be much of a defense in court, but the chances are that Trump won’t have to defend himself in front of a judge. Trump’s jury is Congress — lawmakers who base their views in large part on those of Republicans who voted for Trump. So, while Trump’s angry, repetitive tweeting into the abyss seems crass, the way Trump has framed the probe — so that even his opponents have exceptionally high expectations of Mueller — could be what saves him.
More at https://qz.com/1496496/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 5:27 PM
Quote:Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted:
all the Russians and trump campaign staff that have been indicted, plead guilty about nothing at all to do with .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION. I guess you're ready to admit there was no .RUSSIA.TRUMP.COLLUSION.
tic tac
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.
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Sunday, December 16, 2018 6:19 PM
Quote:You realize that you are as nuts as Trump, right? These are the tweets of guy who is flat out crazy and can't stop:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Some of the Trolls seem to feel it would be an unreasonable and unrealistic burden to expect to find Evidence. Even a minor smidgen of Evidence must be just too difficult for them to point out or identify. Everybody should just be forced to rely entirely upon the hysterical claims and frothed delusions which the Trolls spew.
Pretend crimes which are not crimes, pretend Convictions which are not Convictions, pretend conspiracies of Jaywalking from years before 2015 meaning all subsequent coworkers also conspired to Jaywalk.
Really stretching the bounds of credulity.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Wow, 19,000 Texts between Lisa Page and her lover, Peter S of the FBI, in charge of the Russia Hoax, were just reported as being wiped clean and gone. Such a big story that will never be covered by the Fake News. Witch Hunt!
8:45 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073982314588323845
Someone accuses Trump of doing something horrible, and he goes back at them with all guns blazing.... And admits nothing. When Trump loses, he will declare victory. Trump does the opposite of what a sane person does.
Another tweet: Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Never in the history of our Country has the “press” been more dishonest than it is today. Stories that should be good, are bad. Stories that should be bad, are horrible. Many stories, like with the REAL story on Russia, Clinton & the DNC, seldom get reported. Too bad!
7:37 AM - 15 Dec 2018
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1073965319184678913
Never in the history of America has its president told so many lies....
Before big events, Trump crushes up Adderall and snorts it.
Adderall, a mix of amphetamine/dextroamphetamine, is used to treat attention deficit hyperactivity disorder – ADHD. It’s exactly what you want your President taking to power a tweet storm -- if you want the maximum craziness from your President.
See the video from a guy who worked with Trump on TV. He reveals that Trump snorts amphetamine:
https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1073400561699979264
The 29 most surreal lines from Donald Trump's Fox News interview
www.cnn.com/2018/12/13/politics/donald-trump-harris-faulkner-michael-c
ohen/index.html
Trump is crazy. It could be the snorting of amphetamine, the dementia of an elderly brain, the stress of the job, or all three, but he is nuts.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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