In the garden, and RAIN!!!!
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Had a teriyaki chicken rice bowl for lunch. I like things like that but the sauce has so much sugar in it. It gets too me after a while.
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I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
I was being a bit sarcastic JSF's way there. Without saying it, he's throwing a bit of climate change denial in our non-politicized thread we got here. It's an issue I don't care to debate much since none of us have any true facts.
There were wild fires before, but none of them for the most part got out of control like what we see in California these days. Climate change being a factor or not at all, it is still a man made problem.
Decades ago, tax dollars went toward "beautification" projects where we were paying people to "clean up" the forests of all leaves and other debris. Unfortunately, we're the only animals that do such a thing, and the trees knew what they were doing, evolutionarily speaking. We screwed up the entire habitat when we did that, and now when there is a fire all of that "debris" that held in a ton of moisture is gone and there's literally nothing to stop the fires from spreading.
Fires almost never got out of control like what we see today because the land used to be so wet that they'd just die out on their own.
I actually wonder if this could have also contributed to the constant drought conditions in California as well. One would assume that when it used to rain in California that these natural lands would hold in a lot of the moisture for long periods of time that now would evaporate overnight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Yeah, I know. I was also trying to throw back that we were here first and saw fires caused by lighting and such.
I seem to remember those projects too and getting rid of underbrush and such.
You might be on to something there Jack. But in the US today that is too progressive for everyone.
Haha... Oh yes. I see you're little sarc bomb now. I missed it until you pointed it out. :)
Just wanted you to know that I had dropped one too. Sometimes that doesn't get read like you think it will.
You're probably right about it being too "progressive". Either that or somebody somewhere will have a problem with it. Hell, for all I know our government moves so slow on things that California might still be doing it to this day even though we know now that we shouldn't be doing it because "think of all the jobs that will be lost" if we put those good people cleaning up the forests out of work by eliminating their jobs.
It's a shame that something like that has the potential to be politicised like everything else seems to be these days. There's irrefutable proof that these projects are the main contributing factor to the forest fires raging out of control these days.
I'd never actually heard anybody link it to the droughts before though. Honestly, I just thought of that while I was posting the last reply and edited it to add that last paragraph about it.
I could actually see how that would be ignored, even if somebody knows for a fact it was true. It screws up the climate change narrative for sure. Right now Democrats in California can scream about climate change every time a fire rages out of control or there is a drought. They couldn't do that so easily if it were recognized that those projects had a lot to do with both.
I'm not arguing against the idea of climate change, mind, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
Politics suck.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Got my car back today. Glass looks great, and if it still manages to leak the guy told me to bring it back in and they'll seal it free of charge. They had to do some extra work since it was kind of rusted out so they filed it down and primed it. No extra charge. They're going to be getting a great review :)
The guy didn't want to take the battery charger when I first offered it and said that "this is part of the business, it's what I do". I explained how I get first pick of clearance items before the store opens and I buy a whole bunch of this stuff that's unopened and I happened to have two of these, and since he said he was going on a fishing trip with the fam I thought he might have a boat. He asked me exactly what it was and I told him it was a trickle charger for car and boat batteries. He's like "yeah, I could use that... you mind?". lol
Turns out he does quite a lot and hustles for money. He's not looking for any labor currently, but he's going to need a guy or two during the winter for snow plowing. I told him I've got a lot of nights off of work and I could give him my schedule and he could call me on any night I'm not working that it's storming. Not sure what he pays since it's going to be his vehicles and plows, but could be some nice side cash to pay those heat bills. He got all of my info and said he'll be in touch.
This guy kind of reminds me of a few good bosses I had in my youth. I'm thinking that the plow work is a test and that this might lead to other stuff down the road if I show myself to be reliable.
Going to put the new break pads on next week sometime and finally get that burner phone. For the first time in at least 3 years it actually felt like driving a real car. 
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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People have studied the history of fire in the Western US for the last 3000 years by looking at charcoal accumulation in sediments. The current thinking is that there is a 'fire deficit' due to recent (150 years) human activity including fire suppression/ exclusion, compared to what would be expected from the climate having shifted to hotter, drier conditions.
The intensive and extensive fires we're experiencing aren't either historic or normal. They're a 'catch up' to the new drought-regime.
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/9/E535
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:Quote:
Originally posted by Brenda:
I don't remember the fires in California being this bad either when I was a child.
And I am sure the Native Americans saw wild fires too.
I was being a bit sarcastic JSF's way there. Without saying it, he's throwing a bit of climate change denial in our non-politicized thread we got here. It's an issue I don't care to debate much since none of us have any true facts.
There were wild fires before, but none of them for the most part got out of control like what we see in California these days. Climate change being a factor or not at all, it is still a man made problem.
Decades ago, tax dollars went toward "beautification" projects where we were paying people to "clean up" the forests of all leaves and other debris. Unfortunately, we're the only animals that do such a thing, and the trees knew what they were doing, evolutionarily speaking. We screwed up the entire habitat when we did that, and now when there is a fire all of that "debris" that held in a ton of moisture is gone and there's literally nothing to stop the fires from spreading.
Fires almost never got out of control like what we see today because the land used to be so wet that they'd just die out on their own.
I actually wonder if this could have also contributed to the constant drought conditions in California as well. One would assume that when it used to rain in California that these natural lands would hold in a lot of the moisture for long periods of time that now would evaporate overnight.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Yeah, I know. I was also trying to throw back that we were here first and saw fires caused by lighting and such.
I seem to remember those projects too and getting rid of underbrush and such.
You might be on to something there Jack. But in the US today that is too progressive for everyone.
Haha... Oh yes. I see you're little sarc bomb now. I missed it until you pointed it out. :)
Just wanted you to know that I had dropped one too. Sometimes that doesn't get read like you think it will.
You're probably right about it being too "progressive". Either that or somebody somewhere will have a problem with it. Hell, for all I know our government moves so slow on things that California might still be doing it to this day even though we know now that we shouldn't be doing it because "think of all the jobs that will be lost" if we put those good people cleaning up the forests out of work by eliminating their jobs.
It's a shame that something like that has the potential to be politicised like everything else seems to be these days. There's irrefutable proof that these projects are the main contributing factor to the forest fires raging out of control these days.
I'd never actually heard anybody link it to the droughts before though. Honestly, I just thought of that while I was posting the last reply and edited it to add that last paragraph about it.
I could actually see how that would be ignored, even if somebody knows for a fact it was true. It screws up the climate change narrative for sure. Right now Democrats in California can scream about climate change every time a fire rages out of control or there is a drought. They couldn't do that so easily if it were recognized that those projects had a lot to do with both.
I'm not arguing against the idea of climate change, mind, but I'm just playing devil's advocate here.
Politics suck.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
Don't worry about missing my bomb. It was pretty subtle. We are even as I didn't quite catch yours.
It could have a drought affect as trees and grasses maintain soil and water. Removing trees and brushes created the dustbowl affect that caused so many people to le
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Got my car back today. Glass looks great, and if it still manages to leak the guy told me to bring it back in and they'll seal it free of charge. They had to do some extra work since it was kind of rusted out so they filed it down and primed it. No extra charge. They're going to be getting a great review :)
The guy didn't want to take the battery charger when I first offered it and said that "this is part of the business, it's what I do". I explained how I get first pick of clearance items before the store opens and I buy a whole bunch of this stuff that's unopened and I happened to have two of these, and since he said he was going on a fishing trip with the fam I thought he might have a boat. He asked me exactly what it was and I told him it was a trickle charger for car and boat batteries. He's like "yeah, I could use that... you mind?". lol
Turns out he does quite a lot and hustles for money. He's not looking for any labor currently, but he's going to need a guy or two during the winter for snow plowing. I told him I've got a lot of nights off of work and I could give him my schedule and he could call me on any night I'm not working that it's storming. Not sure what he pays since it's going to be his vehicles and plows, but could be some nice side cash to pay those heat bills. He got all of my info and said he'll be in touch.
This guy kind of reminds me of a few good bosses I had in my youth. I'm thinking that the plow work is a test and that this might lead to other stuff down the road if I show myself to be reliable.
Going to put the new break pads on next week sometime and finally get that burner phone. For the first time in at least 3 years it actually felt like driving a real car.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
I'm glad he took your payment and I hope he does send some extra work your way this winter.
Sounds like you are moving up in the world for sure.
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I just thought I'd re-post this since there's a long history of observation that fire suppression has allowed the build-up of tremendous amounts of what's euphemistically called 'fuel', but is in fact feet-thick layers of dead fallen branches, trees, leaves and needles; as well as abnormally dense forests.
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/ed35/db254f28582c76162f484e3dbb1a5af4
c879.pdf
https://www.fs.fed.us/foresthealth/publications/update99/issues1.html
Clearing out the deadwood, thinning the trees AND removing the fine litter together have been shown to reduce fire devastation.
People have studied the history of fire in the Western US for the last 3000 years by looking at charcoal accumulation in sediments. The current thinking is that there is a 'fire deficit' due to recent (150 years) human activity including fire suppression/ exclusion, compared to what would be expected from the climate having shifted to hotter, drier conditions.
The intensive and extensive fires we're experiencing aren't either historic or normal. They're a 'catch up' to the new drought-regime.
http://www.pnas.org/content/109/9/E535
THUGGER admits it's not about RUSSIA !!! and is, in fact, a witch hunt. "Trump better be innocent of any wrong doing, anywhere, anytime."
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Still trying to rain up here. Nice and cloudy and cool today.
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Well that report is from 1972. I'm pretty sure they were still telling us that smoking cigarettes was good for your health back then.
It's the complete opposite of everything I've heard on the issue, but what do I know.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Well that report is from 1972. I'm pretty sure they were still telling us that smoking cigarettes was good for your health back then.
It's the complete opposite of everything I've heard on the issue, but what do I know.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
If I am remembering rightly in 1972 in BC anyways, doctors and such were just starting towards saying smoking was bad.
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