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Quote:You are talking crazy, 6ix. Brett Kavanaugh argued that a sitting President should be above the Law. That is exactly what Trump wants.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This is just another BS scare tactic by the MSM. Nothing to see here.
“I believe it vital that the President be able to focus on his never-ending tasks with as few distractions as possible. The country wants the President to be ‘one of us’ who bears the same responsibilities of citizenship that all share. But I believe that the President should be excused from some of the burdens of ordinary citizenship while serving in office,” argued Kavanaugh in the law-review article. He then asserted that “the indictment and trial of a sitting President, moreover, would cripple the federal government, rendering it unable to function with credibility in either the international or domestic arenas. Such an outcome would ill serve the public interest, especially in times of financial or national security crisis.”
www.thenation.com/article/brett-kavanaugh-argued-sitting-president-law/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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7 legal experts on how Kavanaugh views executive power — and what it could mean for Mueller
“It does seem as though when he was on the DC Circuit he had an affection for presidential power. Let’s put it that way.”
What happens if a sitting president happens to be the subject of a criminal investigation? It’s an issue involving executive power that could rise all the way to the Supreme Court, and one that Brett Kavanaugh, President Donald Trump’s justice pick, could weigh in on if he’s confirmed.
And on that issue (and others), Kavanaugh, a judge on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals, has a paper trail — opinions and other writings that offer insights into how he might make decisions on the highest court. The Supreme Court may hear some element of the Russia investigation — the subpoena of a sitting president, or (less likely) the indictment of one. And Kavanaugh could be one of the justices to decide on such matters. And he has made it all too clear how he will decide, even before there is a case to be decided.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/11/17551648/kavanaugh-mueller-t
rump-executive-power-legal
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:You are talking crazy, 6ix. Brett Kavanaugh argued that a sitting President should be above the Law. That is exactly what Trump wants.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
This is just another BS scare tactic by the MSM. Nothing to see here.
“I believe it vital that the President be able to focus on his never-ending tasks with as few distractions as possible. The country wants the President to be ‘one of us’ who bears the same responsibilities of citizenship that all share. But I believe that the President should be excused from some of the burdens of ordinary citizenship while serving in office,” argued Kavanaugh in the law-review article. He then asserted that “the indictment and trial of a sitting President, moreover, would cripple the federal government, rendering it unable to function with credibility in either the international or domestic arenas. Such an outcome would ill serve the public interest, especially in times of financial or national security crisis.”
www.thenation.com/article/brett-kavanaugh-argued-sitting-president-law/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
That's not the argument. Stop quoting one sentence when you reply to somebody.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Thats exactly wut woud happen. He sed az much. THATS THE FREEKIN PLAN!
The potential for sivil war iz bekuming more realiztic every week. Putin will be happy with that, but I think he woud prefer for Trump to seksessfully turn the US into a dictatorship.
Seemz to be happening alot theze dayz, but not being much on history, maybe its just the normal rate.
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Quote:An argument, where we come to some agreed upon truth, is only possible between people who are trying to understand. You are not to be trusted, 6ix, to do that work. But it's not my burden to explain something in great detail, with examples designed specially for you, that will get through your thick skull and save your life. It is your life, not mine, so ruin it however you please. Remember: you can't be all that smart, 6ix, and also fuck up your life like you did and are doing. I don't expect you to understand.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not the argument. Stop quoting one sentence when you reply to somebody.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The ethical and moral standards inside the White House have dropped so low that even on the way out the door, conservatives are painting the comically corrupt former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt as a martyred hero victimized by the hysterical liberal media.
“I am just so disappointed in the president’s failure to support Scott against the angry attacks from the loony left,” Republican donor Doug Deason told Politico. “Nothing he did amounted to anything big. He was THE most effective Cabinet member by far.“
It’s impossible to build an administration that’s entirely scandal-free. But you can vet people properly, you can drum-out malefactors who slip through the cracks, and you can build an institutional culture in which team members are rewarded for exposing impropriety rather than rewarded for covering it up.
But inside the Donald Trump White House, grifters, abusers, racists, and harassers still get hired; they lurk around the Oval Office after they’ve been found out; and even in the rare instance where they’re forced out, it’s only grudgingly.
Bill Shine, for example, came on board last week to run White House communications. He got fired from his last job as president of Fox News for his role in orchestrating a massive, multi-year cover-up of widespread sexual harassment and sexual assault of employees. The White House didn’t note this in the press release.
His wife, Darla, meanwhile, has a habit of tweeting inaccurate anti-vaccination memes and a ton of racist stuff, but leading conservative commentators take the view that, since she is nice to her friends, quoting her accurately amounts to a liberal smear campaign.
Then there’s White House staff secretary Rob Porter, who was eventually forced out once it came to light that he’d beaten up a couple of his wives but the White House could never quite get its story straight on exactly what happened, seemingly because Chief of Staff John Kelly had known the facts and tried to cover them up. About a month later, Trump decided he missed Porter and wanted him back, which didn’t happen, but Kelly obviously wasn’t punished for the coverup.
Jim Jordan, a leading House conservative, stands accused by a half-dozen former Ohio State University wrestlers of turning a blind eye to routine sexual abuse of young athletes. And both President Trump and his colleagues are rallying behind Jordan with the preposterous theory that it’s all a conspiracy cooked up by the “deep state”.
What is really striking thing about the current state of Republican Party politics is not the handful of crooks and spouse abusers who’ve been forced out of their jobs, but the petulant and foot-dragging manner in which they’ve been cashiered, the continued tolerance for so many apparent malefactors, and the evident lack of desire to even attempt anything resembling a proper house-cleaning.
Trump’s administration is full of kooks and crooks because it’s led by Donald Trump. Nothing can realistically be done about it because there’s no way to hold your team to any kind of normal standard of conduct when Donald Trump is captain of the ship.
Corruption is not exactly new to American politics. But never before in American history has the president of the United States been a person whose entire career has been devoted to enriching himself. Donald Trump is first and
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Quote:The only presidential democracy with a long history of constitutional continuity is the United States. The constitutions of Finland and France are hybrids rather than true presidential systems, and in the case of the French Fifth Republic, the jury is still out. Aside from the United States, only Chile has managed a century and a half of relatively undisturbed constitutional continuity under presidential government, but Chilean democracy broke down in the 1970s.
Originally posted by JO753:
Thats exactly wut woud happen. He sed az much. THATS THE FREEKIN PLAN!
The potential for sivil war iz bekuming more realiztic every week. Putin will be happy with that, but I think he woud prefer for Trump to seksessfully turn the US into a dictatorship.
Seemz to be happening alot theze dayz, but not being much on history, maybe its just the normal rate.
The superior historical performance of parliamentary democracies is no accident. A careful comparison of parliamentarism as such with presidenlialism as such leads to the conclusion that, on balance, the former is more conducive to stable democracy than the latter. This conclusion applies especially to nations with deep political cleavages and numerous political parties; for such countries, parliamentarism generally offers a better hope of preserving democracy.
https://scholar.harvard.edu/levitsky/files/1.1linz.pdf
www.hank-edmondson.com/amgovchapt4/the-presidential-v-the.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:An argument, where we come to some agreed upon truth, is only possible between people who are trying to understand. You are not to be trusted, 6ix, to do that work. But it's not my burden to explain something in great detail, with examples designed specially for you, that will get through your thick skull and save your life. It is your life, not mine, so ruin it however you please. Remember: you can't be all that smart, 6ix, and also fuck up your life like you did and are doing. I don't expect you to understand.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That's not the argument. Stop quoting one sentence when you reply to somebody.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
The ethical and moral standards inside the White House have dropped so low that even on the way out the door, conservatives are painting the comically corrupt former Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt as a martyred hero victimized by the hysterical liberal media.
“I am just so disappointed in the president’s failure to support Scott against the angry attacks from the loony left,” Republican donor Doug Deason told Politico. “Nothing he did amounted to anything big. He was THE most effective Cabinet member by far.“
It’s impossible to build an administration that’s entirely scandal-free. But you can vet people properly, you can drum-out malefactors who slip through the cracks, and you can build an institutional culture in which team members are rewarded for exposing impropriety rather than rewarded for covering it up.
But inside the Donald Trump White House, grifters, abusers, racists, and harassers still get hired; they lurk around the Oval Office after they’ve been found out; and even in the rare instance where they’re forced out, it’s only grudgingly.
Bill Shine, for example, came on board last week to run White House communications. He got fired from his last job as president of Fox News for his role in orchestrating a massive, multi-year cover-up of widespread sexual harassment and sexual assault of employees. The White House didn’t note this in the press release.
His wife, Darla, meanwhile, has a habit of tweeting inaccurate anti-vaccination memes and a ton of racist stuff, but leading conservative commentators take the view that, since she is nice to her friends, quoting her accurately amounts to a liberal smear campaign.
Then there’s White House staff secretary Rob Porter, who was eventually forced out once it came to light that he’d beaten up a couple of his wives but the White House could never quite get its story straight on exactly what happened, seemingly because Chief of Staff John Kelly had known the facts and tried to cover them up. About a month later, Trump decided he missed Porter and wanted him back, which didn’t happen, but Kelly obviously wasn’t punished for the coverup.
Jim Jordan, a leading House conservative, stands accused by a half-dozen former Ohio State University wrestlers of turning a blind eye to routine sexual abuse of young athletes. And both President Trump and his colleagues are rallying behind Jordan with the preposterous theory that it’s all a conspiracy cooked up by the “deep state”.
What is really striking thing about the current state of Republican Party politics is not the handful of crooks and spouse abusers who’ve been forced out of their jobs, but the petulant and foot-dragging manner in which they’ve been cashiered, the continued tolerance for so many apparent malefactors, and the evident lack of desire to even attempt anything resembling a proper house-cleaning.
Trump’s administration is full of kooks and crooks because it’s led by Donald Trump. Nothing can realistically be done about it because there’s no way to hold your team to any kind of normal standard of conduct when Donald Trump is captain of the ship.
Corruption is not exactly new to American politics. But never before in American history has the president of the United States been a person whose entire career has been devoted to enriNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
I miss having a smart, competent, articulate president. Looks like I'm not alone.
Barack Obama is greatest president of our lifetime: survey
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/barack-obama-is-greatest-president-o
f-our-lifetime-survey/
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
I miss having a smart, competent, articulate president. Looks like I'm not alone.
Barack Obama is greatest president of our lifetime: survey
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/barack-obama-is-greatest-president-o
f-our-lifetime-survey/
If being articulate were the only consideration when deeming one "great", then Obama would win that one.
Absolutely nothing else that he did comes to mind.
Then again, the bar is set abysmally low. Just a Carter, a Reagan, two Bush's a Clinton and a Trump to compete with.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Obama is going to be remembered as a very good, intelligent president who guided our country out of a depression and strived to make regular Americans' lives better and bring peace to an unsettled world, in spite of a congress composed of crying babies who opposed him at every turn.
Blumpy will be remembered by the entire world as a tiny fingered, self-dealing vulgarian forever embroiled in conflicts of his own making, who lied and bumbled his way into office with the help of Putin and auditoriums full of cheering rejects from a WWF audience with the FOX “NEWS” logo burned into their retina and GOP kick me signs taped to their backs. No more than a game show host whose only real success in life was a reality TV show...a sort of male Kim Kardashian with a bigger ass and even bigger ego...Who cheats at golf.
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