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Quote:Wrong.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No such thing as Nazis in 2018.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
If it talks like a Nazi, believes like a Nazi, does Nazi salutes, and beats and murders people like a Nazi for the same reasons a Nazi would, it's a fuckin' Nazi.
But, you go ahead and try to play semantic games. You've already admitted you are one. Toning down on calling people "cucks" doesn't mean your brain works any better.
Charlottesville taught you that sane people loathe you, so you have to be more subtle. The menace of your idiotic brainwashed mind is still there.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Since there are so many places I could post this exonerating tidbit, I'll post it in a few places:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/paul-manafort-trial-public/ind
ex.html
Prosecutors says any alleged collusion with the Russian government won’t come up at the trial.
Not because there wasn't any. Looks like he cut a deal. Very disingenuous of you.
"Manafort faces trial on bank fraud and other financial charges in the Eastern District of Virginia beginning July 25. Until now, there had been no indication that his role in the Trump campaign would become part of the trial, and he had asked the judge to keep details about his ties to President Donald Trump out of the trial. Prosecutors say any alleged collusion with the Russian government won't come up at the trial."
They'll prove that later.
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Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Since there are so many places I could post this exonerating tidbit, I'll post it in a few places:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/06/politics/paul-manafort-trial-public/ind
ex.html
Prosecutors says any alleged collusion with the Russian government won’t come up at the trial.
Quote:How do you know?
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Not because there wasn't any.
Quote:How do you know? Very disingenuous of you.
Looks like he cut a deal.
Quote:Whatever.
"Manafort faces trial on bank fraud and other financial charges in the Eastern District of Virginia beginning July 25. Until now, there had been no indication that his role in the Trump campaign would become part of the trial, and he had asked the judge to keep details about his ties to President Donald Trump out of the trial. Prosecutors say any alleged collusion with the Russian government won't come up at the trial."
They'll prove that later.
We have a trial of one of the supposed principals of said supposed collusion, not being tried for collusion. In fact, this supposed key player of the supposed collusion is having any reference at all to the supposed collusion being barred from the proceedings.
I guess the judge is just a really nice guy or gal who musta' gone along with that request just because Manafort's lawyers asked so sweetly. And not because it was unproven or prejudicial.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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How to Lose a Trade War
Trump’s declaration that “trade wars are good, and easy to win” is an instant classic, right up there with Herbert Hoover’s “prosperity is just around the corner.”
Trump obviously believes that trade is a game in which he who runs the biggest surplus wins, and that America, which imports more than it exports, therefore has the upper hand in any conflict. That’s also why Peter Navarro predicted that nobody would retaliate against Trump’s tariffs. Since that’s actually not how trade works, we’re already facing plenty of retaliation and the strong prospect of escalation.
But here’s the thing: Trump’s tariffs are badly designed even from the point of view of those who share his crude mercantilist view of trade. In fact, the structure of his tariffs so far is designed to inflict maximum damage on the U.S. economy, for minimal gain. Foreign retaliation, by contrast, is far more sophisticated: unlike Trump, the Chinese and other targets of his trade wrath seem to have a clear idea of what they’re trying to accomplish.
The key point is that the Navarro/Trump view, aside from its fixation on trade balances, also seems to imagine that the world still looks the way it did in the 1960s, when trade was overwhelmingly in final goods like wheat and cars. In that world, putting a tariff on imported cars would cause consumers to switch to domestic cars, adding auto industry jobs, end of story (except for the foreign retaliation.)
In the modern world economy, however, a large part of trade is in intermediate goods – not cars but car parts. Put a tariff on car parts, and even the first-round effect on jobs is uncertain: maybe domestic parts producers will add workers, but you’ve raised costs and reduced competitiveness for downstream producers, who will shrink their operations.
So in today’s world, smart trade warriors would focus their tariffs on final goods, so as to avoid raising costs for downstream producers of domestic goods. True, this would amount to a more or less direct tax on consumers; but if you’re afraid to impose any burden on consumers, you really shouldn’t be getting into a trade war in the first place.
But almost none of the Trump tariffs are on consumer goods. Chad Bown and colleagues have a remarkable chart showing the distribution of the Trump China tariffs: an amazing 95 percent are either on intermediate goods or on capital goods like machinery that are also used in domestic production.
Is there a strategy here? It’s hard to see one. There’s certainly no hint that the tariffs were designed to pressure China into accepting U.S. demands.
China’s retaliation looks very different. It’s mostly on final goods. And it’s also driven by a clear political strategy of hurting Trump voters; the Chinese, unlike the Trumpies, know what they’re trying to accomplish.
Trump and company don’t actually have a plan to win this trade war. They may, however, have stumbled onto a strategy that will lose it decisively.
More at www.nytimes.com/2018/07/07/opinion/how-to-lose-a-trade-war.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whatever.
We have a trial of one of the supposed principals of said supposed collusion, not being tried for collusion. In fact, this supposed key player of the supposed collusion is having any reference at all to the supposed collusion being barred from the proceedings.
I guess the judge is just a really nice guy or gal who musta' gone along with that request just because Manafort's lawyers asked so sweetly. And not because it was unproven or prejudicial.
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano was flipped to prosecute mob boss John Gotti. Why did Sammy flip? Because he made a deal where, if he testified, he would not be prosecuted for murder, although he had killed 19, so that the "Teflon Don" John Gotti could be convicted of one murder. The prosecutor was Mueller.
What does this have to do with Manafort? Manafort is Sammy. Trump is Gotti. Mueller is still Mueller. And instead of not prosecuting Sammy for murder, it's not prosecuting Manafort for Russia. Sammy did get some jail time, but not for 19 murders and he is now out and was interviewed by Vanity Fair after Gotti died in jail. Maybe Manafort will be interviewed by Vanity Fair after Trump dies. As fat and old as Trump is, that could be sooner than Gotti rather than later.
HOW SCARED SHOULD TRUMP BE OF MUELLER? ASK JOHN GOTTI OR SAMMY “THE BULL”
www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/how-scared-should-trump-be-of-mueller-
ask-john-gotti-or-sammy-the-bull
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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How the modern world fell in love with money
Alston, who acts as a watchdog on extreme poverty, said Trump’s administration had passed tax laws that “overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and worsened inequality”. He said Trump’s policies “seem deliberately designed to remove basic protections from the poorest, punish those who are not in employment and make even basic health care into a privilege”.
But Greenfield says the chasm between rich and poor was widening well before the reality TV star’s 2016 election. “The American dream – that everyone has equal opportunity – became a fiction long before Trump,” she says. “Americans don’t hate the rich, as they imagine they could become the rich. They don’t want high taxes as they think they could become rich and won’t want to pay them. But what they dream of is an increasingly unbelievable fantasy.”
She says that while examining her photos it became clear to her that “We have left behind the American dream of my dad’s generation where there was the possibility of social mobility and the belief that anyone could make it. The things that were valued then – discipline, hard work and frugality – are not so important now. We have a culture that prizes celebrity, bling and narcissism.” Trump, she says, “is the apotheosis of wealth. With Trump you have wealth and celebrity achieving the ultimate goal. Trump is the natural evolution of the values of our culture.”
www.theguardian.com/global/2018/jul/08/generation-wealth-how-the-moder
n-world-fell-in-love-with-money
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:
How the modern world fell in love with money
Alston, who acts as a watchdog on extreme poverty, said Trump’s administration had passed tax laws that “overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and worsened inequality”. He said Trump’s policies “seem deliberately designed to remove basic protections from the poorest, punish those who are not in employment and make even basic health care into a privilege”.
But Greenfield says the chasm between rich and poor was widening well before the reality TV star’s 2016 election. “The American dream – that everyone has equal opportunity – became a fiction long before Trump,” she says. “Americans don’t hate the rich, as they imagine they could become the rich. They don’t want high taxes as they think they could become rich and won’t want to pay them. But what they dream of is an increasingly unbelievable fantasy.”
She says that while examining her photos it became clear to her that “We have left behind the American dream of my dad’s generation where there was the possibility of social mobility and the belief that anyone could make it. The things that were valued then – discipline, hard work and frugality – are not so important now. We have a culture that prizes celebrity, bling and narcissism.” Trump, she says, “is the apotheosis of wealth. With Trump you have wealth and celebrity achieving the ultimate goal. Trump is the natural evolution of the values of our culture.”
www.theguardian.com/global/2018/jul/08/generation-wealth-how-the-moder
n-world-fell-in-love-with-money
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Yup.
Vote with your wallet people.
At this point I can dictate my schedule at work. I've been very clear that if they want me full time they have to pay me more. Since that likely isn't doable, they will bend over backwards to give me the schedule I want just to keep me around. Should that ever change, I'll tell them to only schedule me one day a week until they figure it out.
How do I do this? Well... having the house paid for certainly doesn't hurt, but it's a lot more than that. No cable TV. No cell phone. Paid for car that I've not had a payment on for 10 years as well as the lowest possible legal car insurance. Never eat out. Yada, yada, yada...
Oh... and I don't buy into any of those days of the year that we've been programmed to go out and spend big bucks either. I don't buy anybody any christmas or birthday presents, etc., and I also tell everyone not to buy me any. That's a lot of money saved for all parties involved on useless shit. The only present I'll be giving this year is to my niece, and I'm building it. It will be far better than any made in China bullshit you can get in the stores and it will be a fraction of the price too.
I'm never going to be rich. Boo hoo.
Chances are that anyone reading this isn't either. The less shit you buy that you don't need, the more you're one step closer to not being a wage slave. When you reach that point, if you've got a near minimum wage job and can pay the bills with only a few days of work a week, you hold all the power in that relationship as long as you're a damn good worker.
There's a lot more to life than money.
Seriously. Fuck money.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:I’ve got a story about Amazonian tribesmen who have little money but they have their health. They made the same trade-off 6ixStringJack did. Your next step, 6ix, is to stop wearing shoes, start carrying bundles on a banana plantation (or whatever the Indiana equivalent is) and live in a thatch-roof house, which is so inexpensive. Get your bare feet in touch with the rich soil.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At this point I can dictate my schedule at work. I've been very clear that if they want me full time they have to pay me more.
There's a lot more to life than money.
Seriously. Fuck money.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-tsimane-tribe-diet-lifestyle-habits-health
y-hearts/
Matthew 6:26 6ixStringJack, look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-animals/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Whatever. All your intense interest in speculation doesn't make it more than speculation. It's a lot like the Douma/ Sarin claims you *thought* were so important. Until the facts came in. And then all that time and effort and thought and belief became so much chaff, to be blown away in the breeze like the wastage it was. A complete waste of your time, and anyone who bothered with your posts. Honestly, life's too short to treat you as anything but a source of amusement.
Originally posted by second:
Sammy "The Bull" Gravano was flipped to prosecute mob boss John Gotti. Why did Sammy flip? Because he made a deal where, if he testified, he would not be prosecuted for murder, although he had killed 19, so that the "Teflon Don" John Gotti could be convicted of one murder. The prosecutor was Mueller.
What does this have to do with Manafort? Manafort is Sammy. Trump is Gotti. Mueller is still Mueller. And instead of not prosecuting Sammy for murder, it's not prosecuting Manafort for Russia. Sammy did get some jail time, but not for 19 murders and he is now out and was interviewed by Vanity Fair after Gotti died in jail. Maybe Manafort will be interviewed by Vanity Fair after Trump dies. As fat and old as Trump is, that could be sooner than Gotti rather than later.
HOW SCARED SHOULD TRUMP BE OF MUELLER? ASK JOHN GOTTI OR SAMMY “THE BULL”
www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/how-scared-should-trump-be-of-mueller-
ask-john-gotti-or-sammy-the-bull
One would think you'd have learned by now - you're being lied to every day. A narrative is being played over and over and over AND over - while zero evidence is presented. You need to seek facts, and if you can't find them, wait for them. And learn by experience who the liars are.
SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
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Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:I’ve got a story about Amazonian tribesmen who have little money but they have their health. They made the same trade-off 6ixStringJack did. Your next step, 6ix, is to stop wearing shoes, start carrying bundles on a banana plantation (or whatever the Indiana equivalent is) and live in a thatch-roof house, which is so inexpensive. Get your bare feet in touch with the rich soil.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
At this point I can dictate my schedule at work. I've been very clear that if they want me full time they have to pay me more.
There's a lot more to life than money.
Seriously. Fuck money.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
www.cbsnews.com/news/amazon-tsimane-tribe-diet-lifestyle-habits-health
y-hearts/
Matthew 6:26 6ixStringJack, look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/bible-verses-about-animals/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Nah... I'm good with where I'm at now. I don't want to be a tree person living completely off the land. I like buying my food at the store and I love having the internet.
Those things are cheap, or at least they can be if you don't need to buy the premium packages.
I'll be able to live this year on less than $5,000, including my property taxes. I'm going to dump another $1,000 into my car to get another 5 years out of it, and I'm going to spend another $1,500 to get a family member to pull out my teeth and put in dentures and never have to worry about that problem I created for myself ever again.
After that, everything else I earn is just gravy.
My point is, there are people who jumped on the opportunity to work full time where I'm employed and it didn't come with a single cent per hour increase. They took it because they had to. Because the job is overnights, they essentially get one free day per week to live their life, and the other six belong to our employer. They are wage slaves.
Beyond working to pay my bills and put a modest amount of money in the bank every month for a rainy day, the money I'm paid isn't worth anything to me. In another 5 years of working 3 days a week, I should be comfortable enough to lower that to only 2 days a week.
SGG asked in another thread "What is Freedom?"
I can't think of a better definition of the word than the way I'm living my life now that I'm sober and living healthy again.
Money is bullshit. Beyond what I need to live, I'm completely done with it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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