Chemical weapons: Are we detecting a pattern yet?
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https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-mideast-crisis-syria-chemicalweapons
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Chemical weapons inspectors back from Syria's Douma - source
Anthony Deutsch
AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Chemical weapons inspectors have returned from a mission to the Syrian town of Douma, where they took samples and interviewed witnesses to determine whether banned munitions were used in an attack last month, a diplomatic source said on Friday.
A team of experts from the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons returned to the Netherlands on Thursday night after going to Damascus on April 14, the source said on condition of anonymity.
The suspected chemical attack prompted missile strikes by the United States, France and Britain on April 13 against several alleged chemical weapons facilities in Syria.
The OPCW is investigating the deaths of dozens of people in Douma, an enclave in Ghouta on the oustskrts of the Syrian capital, on April 7.
The United States and its allies say they were caused by chemical weapons, possibly a nerve agent, used by forces of the Russian-back government of President Bashar al-Assad.
Inspectors visited two sites of alleged attacks and took samples, which will be split at their laboratory in the Netherlands before being forwarded to affiliated national labs for testing. Test results are typically returned within three to four weeks. The OPCW will not assign blame.
The inspectors were also expected to have taken samples from canisters found at the scene that are believed to have contained toxic agents dropped from airplanes or helicopters.
Britain, the United States, France, Germany and others, said in a statement that all material gathered so far supported their theory that chemical weapons were used in Douma. Oddly enough, they all concluded that chemical weapons were used before testing was completed.
The information gathered to date is “unassailable,” they said at the time. Medical NGOs having found traces of chemical agents and authenticated photo and video evidence reinforces the theory of gas intoxication by hundreds of victims. It's unclear who to attribute the second sentence to. But it appears to be made without evidence, since testing isn't completed.
The World Health Organization has also expressed concern “at reports from its partners of patients exhibiting signs and symptoms consistent with exposure to toxic chemicals.” There's no indication who uttered this fraction of a sentence. But digging through google, the quote was found in a joint statement issued by Joint Statement by Australia, Bulgaria, Canada, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America. In it these countries claimed to be speaking for WHO, without link or reference to WHO's actual statements. https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/country-files/syria/events/article/s
yria-opcw-joint-statement-26-04-18
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The OPCW did NOT find nerve agents or mustard gas in Douma. It found chlorinated organic materials of currently unknown significance.
The rumors coming out of Douma that there was some kind of nerve agent attack - rumors which were widely disseminated by the msm as fact - were used at the time as an excuse to attack Syrian forces and escalate both the overall conflict and Israel's number of active attacks on Syria.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61551
Trump launches missiles against Syria
This report, which came out Friday exonerates Assad from traditional chemical attacks and was NOT picked up by the latimes cnn, nytimes, wapo, fox, or the bbc. A Reuters article “Chemical weapons agency finds 'chlorinated' chemicals in Syria's Douma” did not at all mention the absence of traditional chemical weapons like Sarin, VX, or mustard gas.
NOR WAS THIS REPORT PICKED UP ON SATURDAY, when there was plenty of time for 'news' services to fit it into their reporting.
The link to the OPCW report, that exonerates Assad from the use of traditional chemical weapons at Douma, is below.
https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-issues-fact-finding-mission-rep
orts-on-chemical-weapons-use-allegations-in-douma-syria-in-2018-and-in-al-hamadaniya-and-karm-al-tarrab-in-2016/ Friday, 06 July 2018
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Chemical weapons: Are we detecting a pattern yet?
Yep, the russians did it.
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Quote:MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-07/no-nerve-agents-douma-opcw-r
"No Nerve Agents" In Douma: OPCW Report Demolishes White House Sarin Narrative
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A preliminary report published Friday by the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) found no traces of any nerve agent at the site of a suspected chemical attack in the Syrian city of Douma. The OPCW report states this unambiguously as follows:
"No organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties."
Compare the newly published official OPCW findings with the 5-page White House assessment released on April 13th, just days after the alleged attack. Now contradicted by the new OPCW findings, the White House asserted that sarin was used at Douma,
A significant body of information points to the regime using chlorine in its bombardment of Duma, while some additional information points to the regime also using the nerve agent sarin.
Yes, a real headline: CNN screenshot of coverage of the alleged chemical attack in April 2018 which we discussed here.
Firebrand British MP George Galloway responded as follows moments after the OPCW's findings were made public:
Was that, was that the news? What about Douma? The chemical weapons attack? The nerve agent bombs that rained down on Douma that took us to the brink of World War 3?
The OPCW have just reported, well two hours ago... There was no nerve gas attack on Douma. There was no nerve agent deployed on Douma. We were taken to World War 3’s brink on a crock. A crock of vile propaganda.
Ring any bells? No Nerve Agents, Concludes OPCW Report
The April 7th alleged chemical attack, widely blamed by Western countries and the media on Assad's forces, resulted in massive US-led retaliatory airstrikes mostly concentrated on suspected chemical production facilities in Damascus.
Though at the time both UN and OPCW officials urged caution in the rush to blame "animal Assad" for "using nerve agents" as many world headlines breathlessly concluded a mere moments after videos purporting to show scores of chemical attack victims first surfaced (and though CW experts themselves warned that not a single neutral observer was on the ground to verify such claims when it happened), the latest OPCW report flatly contradicts the narrative that quickly solidified in the mainstream.
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Here is the OPCW article linked by Zerohedge. I've provided the item for those who're too stupid or too lazy to follow a simple link
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OPCW Issues Fact-Finding Mission Reports on Chemical Weapons Use Allegations in Douma, Syria in 2018 and in Al-Hamadaniya and Karm Al-Tarrab in 2016
Friday, 06 July 2018
.... The results show that no organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties. Along with explosive residues, various chlorinated organic chemicals were found in samples from two sites, for which there is full chain of custody. Work by the team to establish the significance of these results is on-going. The FFM team will continue its work to draw final conclusions.
The Fact-Finding Mission also issued a report on 2 July 2018 addressing allegations of chemical weapons use in Al-Hamadaniya, Syria on 30 October 2016, and Karm al-Tarrab, Syria on 13 November 2016. On the basis of the information received and analysed, the prevailing narrative of the interviews, and the results of the laboratory analyses, the FFM cannot confidently determine whether or not a specific chemical was used as a weapon in the incidents that took place in the neighbourhood of Al-HamNOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
There's ONE pattern that I'm detecting: THUGR is an idiot.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
There's ONE pattern that I'm detecting: THUGR is an idiot.
I noticed:
1. That's an obvious fake CNN screen shot
2. SIGHEIL is ramping up her chaos propaganda machine largely by just reposting ZeroSludge here.
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Quote:Where is it? Or do you mean this: ?
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I noticed:
1. That's an obvious fake CNN screen shot
Quote:And the source of the report itself - the OPCW.
2. SIGHEIL is ramping up her chaos propaganda machine largely by just reposting ZeroSludge here.
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Meanwhile, let's review how wrong you and your 'sources' were:
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Yes, Russia is that stupid. Too often people look for or assume that behind such things there's some Deep Logic or Great Cunning, when it's more likely a Confederacy of Dunces at work.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I really need to get into the AltMedia biz - since everything can be explained pretty convincingly as a "false flag" you don't have to have studied journalism, or care about professional integrity, which makes the business model pretty bullet proof. Plus, we've seen that many people never seem to get passed their child mind fear of there being a Boogey Man under their bed or a Balrog in the wood pile, or a pedophile in the pizza shop, so sowing doubt and fear is so very easy. < / truthy snark >
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
The "Syrian Rebels" have according to Russia and her defenders, gassed themselves how many times, because why? So they can have the US/UK/France drop a few bombs on... chemical weapons plants? And they based this most recent self-gassing on an event that happened a year ago, when they gassed themselves which produced... a limp wristed slap on an abandoned air field. Makes zero sense.
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So Douma is where the Rebels are and where the chemical attack happened... It's like a puzzle with 2 pieces. Let's see if you can put them together.
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
For the last 7 years they've been "winning."
You can't seriously be looking for common sense or logic in what drives the Medusa that is the Middle East, can you?
So, how would one go about counting Rebel dead anyway? From Assad's pov the number has to be zero or else he admits to using chemical weapons. From the Rebels pov would they want to claim any? Who would count that and confirm it? Perhaps you have evidence of "only civilians dead."
And what's with bringing back years old, 'made the headlines in the US" ISIL terrorist acts? Is that the new line to win over US "news" consumers? I thought Trump said we were done with them anyway, threat over? And finally: is cutting someone's head off with a dull knife somehow worse than using a sharp one? What's up with you and Siggy specifically repeating that odd descriptor?
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https://ahvalnews.com/syria/trumps-bombing-campaign-syria-exactly-what
-putin-and-assad-wanted
Trump’s Bombing Campaign In Syria Is Exactly What Putin And Assad Wanted
By James Miller
The world looked on in horror nearly this month as videos emerged from the Damascus suburb of Douma showing what many experts suspected was yet another chemical weapons attack against civilians. As many as 70 people may have been killed in this latest incident , though questions remain because Russia has blocked experts from The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) from entering the site for more than three days, creating a fear of a cover up.
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SECOND, KPO - care to chime in? CC and THUGGER have already taken their trollish best shots. Yanno, when you can't dispute the facts, be an asshole.
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SECOND, KPO - care to chime in? CC and THUGGER have already taken their trollish best shots. Yanno, when you can't dispute the facts, be an asshole.
Well golly gee. Looks like we, SECOND, KPO, G and I were right.The Russians did it.
Police ID'd Russians for Skripal poisonings: British media
http://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/national-today-newsletter-uk-poison
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