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I think you know the answer to that....no one knows. I would not ever play Poker with that man; he keeps EVERYTHING close to the vest. No tells, that I can see.
Trouble is everyone and their mother is trying to figure out what he knows; and we hear about it on a daily basis, much to my chagrin because there's so much news that needs to have a spotlight. Anyway, we could speculate like the rest, but it will get us nowhere.
One thing is certain, people in the White House are getting nervous. So much so that somewhat irrational, at least that's what Trump and company want us thinking, behavior is the thought of the day. Now that speaks volumes. Rather peculiar behavior for someone who claims innocence. Still though, we can't jump the gun. Let Mueller and company run it's course because passing judgment at this point is premature.
Shakespeare spoke of this thusly:
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"Will all great Neptune's ocean wash this blood clean from my hand?
No, this my hand will rather
The multitudinous seas incarnadine, making the green one red"
-Hearing a knocking at his palace gate, Macbeth fears that he can never wash away the evidence of his guilt.
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A bit of a stretch, I know, but I thought I would end this response with class.
SGG
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Originally posted by captaincrunch:Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:I'm just counting up how many times you misrepresent my post.
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Speaking of honesty, reality, evidence and my problems... I am having this problem getting you to answer a very simple question: do you know what evidence Mueller has? Yes/No?
Kiki deflecting from my question (one I have asked you for weeks, maybe even months, without answer) again and somewhat desperately.
But I'll indulge you because I know it will only show what a louse you are.
Here's your "misrepresented" post:
KIKI: "I know GEEBERS likes to poke fun at the idea that super rich people use their money to run the people who run the country."
Me: Sorry toots, have known about the ultra wealthy trying to buy their politics for ages, thought it was old news around here. Until you can bring EVIDENCE though, of specific individuals and/or groups of them working together in an organized cabal with specific political strategies then you're just blowing smoke to cover for something else. As I have corrected SIGNYM on many occasions, guessing isn't evidence. Neither is making 10,000 word pronouncements or copying someone else's what-aboutisms.
I poke fun because I find the attempts from people like you to use a form of the "deus ex machina" writing kludge to be laughably obvious. You either don't realize it or don't care - either way it's just another fiction as deflection at best.
KIKI: But I noticed that - AS USUAL - he has no information to bring to the table to back up his silliness. He likes to reference FICTION to do that!
Me: You should read my posts instead of grabbing half sentence quotes - mountains of information.
KIKI: "Well, GEEBERS has ALWAYS had problems with the concept of evidence. And reality. And honesty."
Me: So I addressed evidence, reality and honesty -check
Your turn: Do you know what Mueller knows?
You going to dodge again, or be honest?
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I got a giggle out of it.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:That's funny, because even Joss Whedon said that The Alliance was based on the US government!
The Deep State is Borgoroth, Sauron, The Slayer, yes, even The Alliance.
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America is an oligarchy
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Quote:Mueller is working at the slow speed set by the Federal Courts and Federal elections. If Mueller finishes too quickly and his evidence gathering isn't perfect, his entire investigation would have been pointless because either the GOP Congress will threw his report in the trash or the crooks will be reelected. But I don't have to be slow as Mueller to decide if Trump was colluding with Putin. One data point is enough for me:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
One thing is certain, people in the White House are getting nervous. So much so that somewhat irrational, at least that's what Trump and company want us thinking, behavior is the thought of the day. Now that speaks volumes. Rather peculiar behavior for someone who claims innocence. Still though, we can't jump the gun. Let Mueller and company run it's course because passing judgment at this point is premature.
Trump did not follow specific warnings from his national security advisers Tuesday when he congratulated Russian President Vladimir Putin on his reelection — including a section in his briefing materials in all-capital letters stating “DO NOT CONGRATULATE,” according to officials familiar with the call…..It was not clear whether Trump read the notes, administration officials said. Trump, who initiated the call, opened it with the congratulations for Putin, one person familiar with the conversation said.
I’m sure we’re all glad to know that it’s henceforth official US policy to congratulate autocrats for winning rigged elections. That’s making America great again.
Quote of the Day: “Nice Work, Vlad”
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/03/quote-of-the-day-nice-work-vlad/
I suppose most Republicans would need a recorded Trump/Putin phone call about money transfers between Trump/Putin secret bank accounts before they would change their minds about Trump. Even that might not make any difference to their love of him. Trump has magnanimously donated his $400,000 salary to charity, but he does deserve Russian billions for his hard work. www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1341/tak
e-no-salary/
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Herez your cheif Deep State story teller in action:
Wuzzup with this 'bought & paid for' fraze that iz so popular in the eko chamber? Iz there sum way uv buying stuff without paying for it that requirez them to add the 'paid for' part?
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Yanno, I know I'm going to take a lot of flak for this, but I do have to say: YOU guys have gone full retard about Russia.
In my reading of Russia, UNLIKE US, THE UNITED STATES, everything Russia has done has been defensive. The biggest threat to world peace and stability has not been Russia, but the USA, and the only reason why you're now hyperventilating and paranoid is because one nation has decided to fight back against American hegemony and the crush of the "unipolar moment". You wouldn't be taking this ridiculous stance if you have an objective reading of the last 50 years, a modicum of respect for the interests of other nations, a view of the USA as a "nation among nations" and not (somehow) the "world police", and especially if you spent some time thinking about our ACTUAL interests and the threats to those interests, instead of following every (ahem) red herring that's dragged in front of your noses. I only mention this in the Deep State thread because you guys slavishly follow the deep state line, despite it being totally antithetical to you, to your freedom, and to the economic interests of you and your children.
I love my country (the USA) and despite the egregious violence that WE have visited on the world since WWII, "intervening" in dozens and dozens of nations, sometimes multiple times and killing millions of people in the process ... Indonesia, Philippines, Iran, Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua, Honduras, Colombia, El Salvador, Panama (in fact, every nation in S and Central America except Costa Rica), Sudan, Ethiopia, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Sudan ... to no good end, as far as I can tell ... it pains me greatly to see us be so evil and waste so much money while doing it, and to see that none of you have drawn a single lesson from history about the absolute corruption of absolute power.
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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
America is an oligarchy
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Quote:Signym, with even the slightest, flimsiest justification, Americans willing support the stupid wars you mentioned. With that kind of solid American support for the troops, the Pentagon can go wherever and do whatever to whoever. The Pentagon certainly gets the money every year for the stupid wars and I don't see tax protestors with signs saying "Don't Spend MY Money On YOUR War!"
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, I know I'm going to take a lot of flak for this, but I do have to say: YOU guys have gone full retard about Russia.
In my reading of Russia, UNLIKE US, THE UNITED STATES, everything Russia has done has been defensive. The biggest threat to world peace and stability has not been Russia, but the USA, and the only reason why you're now hyperventilating and paranoid is because one nation has decided to fight back against American hegemony and the crush of the "unipolar moment". You wouldn't be taking this ridiculous stance if you have an objective reading of the last 50 years, a modicum of respect for the interests of other nations, a view of the USA as a "nation among nations" and not (somehow) the "world police", and especially if you spent some time thinking about our ACTUAL interests and the threats to those interests, instead of following every (ahem) red herring that's dragged in front of your noses. I only mention this in the Deep State thread because you guys slavishly follow the deep state line, despite it being totally antithetical to you, to your freedom, and to the economic interests of you and your children.
I love my country (the USA) and despite the egregious violence that WE have visited on the world since WWII, "intervening" in dozens and dozens of nations, sometimes multiple times and killing millions of people in the process ... Indonesia, Philippines, Iran, Chile, Brazil, Nicaragua, Honduras, Colombia, El Salvador, Panama (in fact, every nation in S and Central America except Costa Rica), Sudan, Ethiopia, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Sudan ... to no good end, as far as I can tell ... it pains me greatly to see us be so evil and waste so much money while doing it, and to see that none of you have drawn a single lesson from history about the absolute corruption of absolute power.
I was around for the Vietnam War. Texans (80 to 90%) were for kicking the hell out of Commies in North Vietnam. They knew all about the South Vietnamese being killed by American troops, said they didn't believe it, but truthfully they did not care who got killed. Didn't bother Texans more than a little bit that Marines were murdering civilians on our side. The situation looked as absurd as in WWII if American planes were bombing Germany, Scotland, Wales, and Ireland with the justification that there might be German infiltrators everywhere. Americans went so crazy in love with killing toward the end of WWII that a majority approved of nuking children. Even today, the majority of Americans (but not all) are still, after so many failed wars, completely crazy in love with killing foreigners. And that is why America has a crazy foreign policy. Americans support the troops, regardless of who they kill.
"How Congress Got Us Out of Vietnam"
http://prospect.org/article/how-congress-got-us-out-vietnam
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by JO753:
Herez your cheif Deep State story teller in action:
Wuzzup with this 'bought & paid for' fraze that iz so popular in the eko chamber? Iz there sum way uv buying stuff without paying for it that requirez them to add the 'paid for' part?
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.7532020.com
He's not the chief of anything. I don't watch FOX News and never have. I might have heard an hours worth of words out of this man in my entire life, and that includes whenever he might have been talked about by somebody else.
The Deep State was around long before Hannity was a thing. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if he were actually deep state friendly himself, whether wittingly or unwittingly.
What I'm saying is, though I don't know what ridiculous amount of money he gets paid per year, I know it's many, many more times than what he is worth. It would make sense to have somebody like him talk about the Deep State. He's a figurehead of the "beast" that is FOX News, and therefore everything he has to say is dismissed by anybody who watches Rachel Maddow everyday.
If I were a part of the deep state, I'd have Hannity talking about us everyday if I didn't already have Maddow doing it.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Lt. Col. Ralph Peters is a warmonger’s warmonger. As such, he fits in perfectly as a commentator on Fox News. But he’s finally decided he’s had enough of this talk of Deep State and has decided to leave the network. Here’s his email explaining his resignation: www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/ralph-peters
Over my decade with Fox, I long was proud of the association. Now I am ashamed. In my view, Fox has degenerated from providing a legitimate and much-needed outlet for conservative voices to a mere propaganda machine for a destructive and ethically ruinous administration. When prime-time hosts—who have never served our country in any capacity—dismiss facts and empirical reality to launch profoundly dishonest assaults on the FBI, the Justice Department, the courts, the intelligence community (in which I served) and, not least, a model public servant and genuine war hero such as Robert Mueller—all the while scaremongering with lurid warnings of “deep-state” machinations—I cannot be part of the same organization, even at a remove. To me, Fox News is now wittingly harming our system of government for profit.
As a Russia analyst for many years, it also has appalled me that hosts who made their reputations as super-patriots and who, justifiably, savaged President Obama for his duplicitous folly with Putin, now advance Putin’s agenda by making light of Russian penetration of our elections and the Trump campaign. Despite increasingly pathetic denials, it turns out that the “nothing-burger” has been covered with Russian dressing all along. And by the way: As an intelligence professional, I can tell you that the Steele dossier rings true—that’s how the Russians do things. The result is that we have an American president who is terrified of his counterpart in Moscow.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol buzzfeed
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Quote:Then why are YOU making the same mistake now, with Russia?
Signym, with even the slightest, flimsiest justification, Americans willing support the stupid wars you mentioned ... I was around for the Vietnam War. Texans (80 to 90%) were for kicking the hell out of Commies in North Vietnam. - SECOND
And just OOC, how did YOU feel about our invasions of Panama, Grenada, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya, our occupation of Lebanon, and our attempted destruction of Syria? Please, don't tell me about "texans".
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