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I think if someone claims to be a neo-Nazi or a White Supremacist they have admitted guilt already simply based on what they stand for- GSTRING
Really? Do you really think this??? I sure hope not.
I can think of a million ways that this can go wrong. First of all, "standing for something" is NOT A CRIME. It's called free speech. If I were to say "I think the USA should be all white, and we should kick out all of the colored people" that's NOT A CRIME.
Now, it starts veering into criminal behavior when someone makes terrorist threats ("I'm going to kill all of you", in CA that would be called "assault") or incitement to violence ("String 'em up!") although that varies from state to state. It REALLY becomes a crime when you put words into actions. In any case, you need EVIDENCE before you can convict someone.
Applying your logic, tho, I would say that anyone showing up with a hoodie and mask is clearly intent on committing criminal behavior. Right?- SIGNY
Applying your logic, tho, I would say that anyone showing up with a hoodie and mask is clearly intent on committing criminal behavior. Right?"
Huh? WTF?? How??????????
So typically full of shit and bogus assumptions
THIS from the person who posted ... and let me quote again...
Quote:ASSUMING MUCH?
I think if someone claims to be a neo-Nazi or a White Supremacist they have admitted guilt already simply based on what they stand for.
First, you assume that you can even tell who a neo-Nazi is. You've thrown that word around inaccurately enough that CLEARLY you can't even tell who belongs in that group.
Second, you assume that you "know" what "all" neo-Nazis stand for.
Third, you assume that "standing for something" is, in and of itself, a crime. "They have admitted guilt..." Guilt OF WHAT? What crime was committed? What would your indictment be? Oh, that's right ... it's just one giant clusterfuck of an assumption.
Good lord.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
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Quote:You're indicted on the basis of what THEY ASSUME you think.
I think if someone claims to be a neo-Nazi or a White Supremacist they have admitted guilt already simply based on what they stand for. - SIX
You see, SIX, you stand accused of wrong thinking and wrong feeling.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
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REAVERFAN, I don't care who commits the "majority" of attacks; it's not relevant to guilt or innocence or punishment. But when YOU take that tack, it sounds like you're advocating collective punishment. Do you know that's a violation of human rights and (in some instances) a war crime?
It's like SIX said
Quote:Punishing the perpetrator should be good enough.
I already said that anybody committing a crime should be punished for it.
You don't get rid of fascism by eradicating fascists, just like you don't get rid of poverty by eliminating poor people.
Quote:since you were the one advocating "eradicating" a group of people by any means possible ... what does that make YOU?
Moving on - the reason why I opened with the breakdown of fascist ideology is because the emphasis on power and domination is vital.
I've confronted this whole "ends and means" argument across many situations, from the Vietnam War to confronting terrorism to Antifa/KKK. The only ethically legitimate use of violence is self-defense. You don't get to use it preemptively, otherwise you become like the thing you're trying to fight.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You're indicted on the basis of what THEY ASSUME you think.
I think if someone claims to be a neo-Nazi or a White Supremacist they have admitted guilt already simply based on what they stand for.
You see, SIX, you stand accused of wrong thinking and wrong feeling.
Oh I know full well what's going on here. I'm glad you see it too. I think anybody with half a brain who hasn't been brainwashed can see it.
That being said, I'd appreciate it if you edit that post to attribute the quote to whoever said it. I think it was G.
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Quote:So ... calling yourself the wrong name is a crime? Wearing the wrong clothes is a crime? Applying for permits to march is a crime? Because, I'm not seeing how any of these things is something other than protected speech.
Originally posted by G:
Don't be ridiculous. We're talking about Charlottesville. THEY decided, THEY call themselves these things, they applied for permits with those designations.
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Originally posted by 6-string joker:
We? Ridding the country of them? Who are these "we" you're talking about?
Quote:So, getting rid of people you disagree with is the function of a 'Modern, intelligent society'?
Originally posted by G:
Geewhiz, I dunno... maybe Modern, intelligent society?
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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What I get out of this entire thread is that Reaverfan and 'G' think it's OK to eliminate whole categories of the wrong sort of people, whether or not any individuals have committed any crimes - because ... FASCISM !
And yet, their entire premise rings a bell. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I know it happened somewhere in history ...
Trump is not the problem. He set himself against the Deep State's agenda. And the Deep State's been heading for WWIII for years.
As for you, you're just a Deep State useful idiot, furthering its agenda. So I hope you enjoy cesium in your coffee. You've earned it.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:Quote:
Originally posted by G:
DJ is rarely ever factual.Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Who's DJ?Quote:Eh - doesn't help. All I'm coming up with is Dow Jones and Dee-Jay.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
G's best friend and mentor, his hero.
I think POTUS#45 has middle initial J. And G loves him, and emulates him.
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:You're indicted on the basis of what THEY ASSUME you think.
I think if someone claims to be a neo-Nazi or a White Supremacist they have admitted guilt already simply based on what they stand for.
You see, SIX, you stand accused of wrong thinking and wrong feeling.
Oh I know full well what's going on here. I'm glad you see it too. I think anybody with half a brain who hasn't been brainwashed can see it.
That being said, I'd appreciate it if you edit that post to attribute the quote to whoever said it. I think it was G.
Done.
Yes, it was G.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Why all of this identity politics.
And by the way... if somebody wants to burn a cross on their front lawn and they aren't part of a homeowners association and there's no laws against doing it, then they're free to do it.
It's a stupid, racist thing to do. They're ruining their own lawn and they're likely to get bricks thrown thru their windows and get a lot otherwise unwanted attention, but that is their right if it's not against the law in their area.
If their neighbors don't like it, change the laws.
I'd sure be going to a town hall meeting if my next door neighbor enjoyed burning crosses on his lawn every night. I don't need any of that shit.
Mah Gawd. You do realize that they don't burn crosses on THEIR laws, they burn them on OTHER people's lawns as a form of intimidation?? They spray paint slang on cars, on houses, throw bricks through windows.... BECAUSE THEY IDENTIFY WITH NAZI'S!!!!!!
We call them NAZI'S because if they thought they could get away with it, they would round up everyone that doesn't look like them and murder them.
The INTENT is the same, hence THEY ARE NAZI'S. The DATE doesn't matter a DAMN.
The ONLY reason you could possibly whine about the name is that YOU identify with white supremacists, but you don't want to consider yourself a Nazi.
If you feel ANY similarities with white supremacists YOU.. ARE... A... FUCKING... NAZI....
And lemme tell you, there ain't a damn thing "supreme" about you
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You're the one who knows all about them Wishy. I guess I wouldn't know who's lawns they burn crosses on.
We don't have people like this where I live. I've never personally met anybody like this. I guess where I live people are just normal. We all just get along.
Just another in a long list of reasons that you should move out of Satan's Asshole, IN.
Keep up the hate, and stay classy girl.
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