Why Nazis Are Just Copies of Democrats

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, August 18, 2017 12:18 AM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
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I also neglected to mention the Anti-Semitic actions of Democraps such as FDR when he sent back to Europe Jewish refugees from Nazis, aboard SS St Louis.
At least 250 of them died as a result.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005267

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27373131

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousa
nds-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/
The St. Louis is a tragic story, but in 1939 FDR's administration could not have possibly foreseen or even imagined the scope of the mass exterminations that would take place years later. Eisenhower himself was on hand in 1945 when American troops stumbled upon Ohrdruf and Birkenau death camps and he couldn't believe or comprehend what he saw there.

I remember FDR and his Democrats as the Party that supported Churchill during England's darkest days when they alone stood against Hitler. The Republicans were isolationists. They argued against Lend/Lease and wanted no part of the fight against Germany.

methinks you rememberfy incorrectly.
FDR campaigned very clearly as isolationist in 1940 election. That was why he needed to sacrifice Pearl Harbor and the Battleship Navy, to not violate his campaign promise.

Crystal Night had already occurred in November 1938, and was no big secret. The Times of London reported it the next day.

The Isolationist and Nonintervention policies codified in Neutrality Acts of 1935, 1936, 1937, and 1939 were all passed with Democrap majorities in both houses of Congress, and Supermajorities in both houses from 1935 - 1938.

The darkhorse candidate Wilkie in 1940 for GOP did end up an Isolationist but Republicans considered that to be a negative in the race.

SECOND

Friday, August 18, 2017 1:16 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

methinks you rememberfy incorrectly.
FDR campaigned very clearly as isolationist in 1940 election. That was why he needed to sacrifice Pearl Harbor and the Battleship Navy, to not violate his campaign promise.

Crystal Night had already occurred in November 1938, and was no big secret. The Times of London reported it the next day.

A number of books were reviewed on the subject upon which JewelStaiteFan got everything backwards and upside down from what actually happened:

On Capitol Hill, staunchly conservative Republicans — prominent among them Ohio Sen. Robert Taft and North Dakota Sen. Gerald Nye and several Northeasterners, including FDR’s Hyde Park, New York, home district’s Republican congressman, Hamilton Fish III — along with a smaller number of anti-foreign Democrats like powerful North Carolina Sen. Robert Reynolds, used their obstructive legislative power much like today’s Republicans to kneecap the administration in its efforts to arm the British and Chinese nationalists (at war with the Japanese) and grow the paltry American military.

They at least were not Fascists. Olson also describes the machinations of more odious anti-British Hitler sympathizers and anti-Semites such as Ambassador Kennedy, a young architect named Philip Johnson, and Hitler’s favorite U.S. industrialist, Henry Ford, who shared Anne Morrow Lindbergh’s belief, articulated in her No. 1–bestselling testament The Wave of the Future: A Confession of Faith, that the various violent movements crushing human freedom, above all Hitler’s Nazism, were just “scum on the surface of the wave” as civilization moved into a new “highly scientific, mechanized, and material era.” I guess they considered the already well-known existence of the Nazi concentration camps just part of adjusting to the new age dawning upon the world.

However nauseating in retrospect, millions shared their views. Bankrolled by Gen. Robert E. Wood, chairman of retail giant Sears, Roebuck; editorially backed by the Hearst chain of newspapers, publisher Robert McCormick’s Chicago Tribune, and New York Daily News publisher Joseph Patterson; and given voice by avowed anti-Semite radio priest Father Charles Coughlin and many other leading media figures, the anti-intervention-movement rallies attracted crowds in the tens of thousands, often to hear Lindbergh speak, sometimes to call for FDR’s impeachment and Lindbergh to take power. Many in the movement were thoughtfully opposed to the war, but their numbers included Communist Party members toeing the Stalinist line, German Bund Hitlerites, and unabashed Jew haters.

For all his cynical willingness to manipulate everyone around him, FDR never wavered in his commitment to freedom, democratic ideals, and his New Deal social programs. He would bend the truth, dissimulate his thinking behind a bright smile and personal charm, send subordinates to take actions and deny he did, and even risk impeachment to win reelection and provide “all aid short of war” to the Allies. For all his public denials that American boys would ever fight in foreign wars, he was certain that war with Hitler (and eventually Japan) was inevitable. He preferred that until then Britain and the Red Army have American aid to hold off the Axis and that when the time came to fight his country’s military be ready.

www.thedailybeast.com/the-revolution-of-1940-americas-fight-over-enter
ing-world-war-two

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

RIVERLOVE

Friday, August 18, 2017 2:34 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

FDR campaigned very clearly as isolationist in 1940 election. That was why he needed to sacrifice Pearl Harbor and the Battleship Navy, to not violate his campaign promise.

That's insane.

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Originally posted by second:

A number of books were reviewed on the subject upon which JewelStaiteFan got everything backwards and upside down from what actually happened.

You're right. His FDR fantasies are nothing but demented lies.

SECOND

Friday, August 18, 2017 3:56 AM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

FDR campaigned very clearly as isolationist in 1940 election. That was why he needed to sacrifice Pearl Harbor and the Battleship Navy, to not violate his campaign promise.

That's insane.

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Originally posted by second:

A number of books were reviewed on the subject upon which JewelStaiteFan got everything backwards and upside down from what actually happened.

You're right. His FDR fantasies are nothing but demented lies.

There is a reason why JewelStaiteFan got it all wrong: FDR deliberately mislead a tremendous number of Republicans who, both out of their minds and out of stupidity, had to be tricked into doing what needed doing. After 77 years, Republicans still don't understand the trick.

The day before the vote in 1940, the Republican Party ran an ominous radio commercial addressed to the mothers of America. A chilling voice warned, “When your boy is dying on some battlefield in Europe and he’s crying out ‘Mother! Mother!’—don’t blame Franklin D. Roosevelt because he sent your boy to war — blame YOURSELF, because YOU sent Franklin D. Roosevelt back to the White House!”

FDR had to answer such attacks. He may have believed war with Germany was inevitable, but he felt forced to declare in a nationally broadcast campaign speech just days before the vote, “Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars ... We will not send our Army, Navy, or air forces to fight in foreign lands.”

We know the election result, but the final days of the campaign played out like a political Super Bowl where the outcome wasn’t clear until the very last seconds of play. Even the preternaturally confident FDR thought he had lost the election as he read the first vote counts coming to him at his home in Hyde Park.

Such pronouncements that he would not intervene made it impossible for the third-term president to go to war—except through subterfuge, which he did—without an actual attack on America. One can speculate that had he been freer to pursue the election’s foreign-policy mandate, the U.S. might have entered the war several months before Pearl Harbor. An earlier buildup of the nation’s armed forces would surely have saved uncountable but likely many lives.

These books help us reflect on today’s deep national divisions, as our messy republican democracy lurches from crisis to crisis and minority viewpoints, still largely Republican, game the system to block worthy legislation and needed government action, even when most citizens believe they are in the nation’s interest.

On the afternoon of December 7, 1941, Republican Senator Nye addressed several thousand rowdy people at a Pittsburgh America First rally. “Whose war is this?” he shouted out. “Roosevelt’s!” roared back the crowd. A short while later they knew that war was America’s.

www.thedailybeast.com/the-revolution-of-1940-americas-fight-over-enter
ing-world-war-two

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

SHINYGOODGUY

Friday, August 18, 2017 2:23 PM

Hey Six,

I will respond later today. I'm doing so holding the White Flag of Truce, but right now I have a major league headache.

Thanks

SGG

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Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.

SGG

Hey SGG.

I consider you one of the rational people on this board.

I would like you to REALLY read these two threads that are being heavily posted on and think for yourself here, rather than jumping on board the Wishy/Reaverfan hate train.

6STRINGJOKER

Friday, August 18, 2017 9:17 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Six,

I will respond later today. I'm doing so holding the White Flag of Truce, but right now I have a major league headache.

Thanks

SGG

No worries. Take your time.

I should admit that my language has gotten a little "colorful" over the last few days. Let's just say that I'm feeling a little "triggered".

Wolf Blitzer isn't helping things.

REAVERFAN

Friday, August 18, 2017 10:03 PM

We're not the haters here. The Nazis are.

6STRINGJOKER

Friday, August 18, 2017 10:27 PM

There aren't any Nazis here.

THGRRI

Friday, August 18, 2017 11:31 PM

Steve Bannon, Controversial Aide to Trump, Leaves White House Staff

https://www.wsj.com/articles/steve-bannon-leaves-white-house-staff-150
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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Saturday, August 19, 2017 12:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I also neglected to mention the Anti-Semitic actions of Democraps such as FDR when he sent back to Europe Jewish refugees from Nazis, aboard SS St Louis.
At least 250 of them died as a result.

https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10005267

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27373131

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousa
nds-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/
The St. Louis is a tragic story, but in 1939 FDR's administration could not have possibly foreseen or even imagined the scope of the mass exterminations that would take place years later. Eisenhower himself was on hand in 1945 when American troops stumbled upon Ohrdruf and Birkenau death camps and he couldn't believe or comprehend what he saw there.

I remember FDR and his Democrats as the Party that supported Churchill during England's darkest days when they alone stood against Hitler. The Republicans were isolationists. They argued against Lend/Lease and wanted no part of the fight against Germany.
methinks you rememberfy incorrectly.
FDR campaigned very clearly as isolationist in 1940 election. That was why he needed to sacrifice Pearl Harbor and the Battleship Navy, to not violate his campaign promise.

Crystal Night had already occurred in November 1938, and was no big secret. The Times of London reported it the next day.

The Isolationist and Nonintervention policies codified in Neutrality Acts of 1935, 1936, 1937, and 1939 were all passed with Democrap majorities in both houses of Congress, and Supermajorities in both houses from 1935 - 1938.

The darkhorse candidate Wilkie in 1940 for GOP did end up an Isolationist but Republicans considered that to be a negative in the race.

How is it that every single fact that is listed here is not disputed, yet are claimed to be incorrect via distractions, rationalizations, red herrings?

If a Supermajority "supported" something, it would have been enacted.
Take your Brain Housing Group out of neutral.

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