Why Nazis Are Just Copies of Democrats
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Saturday, August 12, 2023 19:00
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Quote:Everybody except RF and G seem to have learned better than you, in this thread. And maybe SGG.
Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:Oh, the irony.
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
- probably because they cannot read, let alone think.
Nazi's are ALWAYS CONSERVATIVES.
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Quote:Supporting FREEDOM of Speech has nominally been the mentality and covenant of the Far Right, The Right, Conservatives. Restrictions of Freedoms has been the hallmark of the Intolerants, Democrats, The Left.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.
SGG
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Quote:how does this relate to whether you jump on the Wishy/rea
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Six,
I will respond later today. I'm doing so holding the White Flag of Truce, but right now I have a major league headache.
Thanks
SGG
No worries. Take your time.
I should admit that my language has gotten a little "colorful" over the last few days. Let's just say that I'm feeling a little "triggered".
Wolf Blitzer isn't helping things.
Ok, before I answer, let me tell you:
I'm a die-hard Democrat.
I believe in democracy.
Born and raised in the good ol' USA.
My president was JFK (10 when they killed him)
Protested the Vietnam War
Believe in the Death Penalty (especially when it comes to kids and police killed in cold blood)
Yes, believe there are those that cheat the system (from the top to the bottom and back again)
Vets should get a house, health care for free, especially if they lost a limb
Free enterprise should be allowed to run it's course
College should not be for profit
Universal Health Care
I hate bullies
There's nothing wrong with a little cursing every now and then, helps relieve stress
I've been known to use "colorful" language myself. At times, it's to blow off steam, other times it's to make a point. I like to think of myself as a rational human being, but every once in a while I lose my shit.
Sometimes I like to fuck with people (habit of mine with my old friends) but we stay friends at the end. There are times when it's appropriate, and others when it's not. I try not to hold grudges when someone loses their shit, as long as it's done honestly. I think that guys tend to understand that more than women, I don't know why that is.
I despise when people try to insult my intelligence. If you call me out on a particular topic and you make a valid point, I will say so. If you lose your shit and curse me out, then later come back and say "I had a bug up my ass, let's start over." I respect that. We are all here because of the freedom within Firefly. Being ourselves and allowed to speak our minds without fear. Fuck!, everyone has the right to speak their minds and believe what they believe. Sometimes JSF will call me a Libtard (his favorite word), but I know that's his way of saying "you're wrong you asshole" and I'll call him a dickhead and we'll argue our points and views.
I have to admit, sometimes I get steamed, but when I think clearly and calmly, I'll say..."Hell with it, he's just speaking his mind. He's wrong! But he's speaking his mind." I may not respond for a few days, but, in the end, we all have the right to speak our minds. Me, I try not to insult you in the process, but shit happens. Bottom line, we all get angry and lose our shit. But I don't care for the insults and lack of respect for my beliefs and contributions. You could call me a dickhead, sure. I've even gotten use to being called a drunk (thanks Keeks and Sig), I just laugh it off and make some reference to something that comes to my mind in that instant. Helps me to cope with the idiocy of the moment.
But there are times when I respond and it's laser sharp on point. And times when I'm just letting off some steam. I will, at times, not get angry if you go tell me to go fuck myself, or go to hell, I know that is your way of letting off steam. But please know that I think for myself. If I see something that you, or anyone for that matter, makes sense to me...I will go along with it or comment on it in some way. But know this, it is my decision and mine alone. You know this to be true because many times we have agreed....well, maybe not many times, but a few.
So Six, speak your mind. So will I. If we agree, fine, if not, that's fine too.
Just be honest and we'll be cool.
SGG
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It doesn't
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You're kidding, right!?
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Supporting FREEDOM of Speech has nominally been the mentality and covenant of the Far Right, The Right, Conservatives. Restrictions of Freedoms has been the hallmark of the Intolerants, Democrats, The Left.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.
SGG
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From the reporting that I've seen, many who voted for Trump were converted Democrats who were fed up for one reason or another. I'm not going to pretend to know all the demographics involved, but, again from watching reports and reading related stories, I gathered that there were many pissed off people tired of the same old politics and were desperate for change.
And boy did they get it. Trump managed to pull the wool over many folks eyes. Voters thought: "Here's what we need to change the dynamics of our daily lives and turn this ship around." I especially see white folk wanting to believe this so much that they said "fuck it, why not Trump." They bought into his carnival barker attitude and bought the snake oil...hook, line and sinker. I'm not saying that they should have known better, but they should have known better. A month or two ago, I saw a report on NBC or rather an interview of a converted Dem who voted for Trump, and he was not happy. He was rethinking his vote.
Now, Trump will always have his base, his supporters and that's all well and good. But the converted were expecting a particular outcome as a reward to their conversion, and that is the key to whether one can call his presidency - a success. It's one thing to get there, it's a whole different kettle of fish once you're there - behind that desk. He even admitted to it
during his Afghanistan speech. This is not about who is or isn't a Nazi; this is about our Democracy. Calling someone a name won't cut it; it's about what works for us as a people. It is a gray matter that continues to evolve and change almost minute-by-minute; especially the way Trump and company has been handling things so far.
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I think what this starts to suggest to me is that these are old holdovers from the Democratic Party that are conservative on race issues. And while Bernie wasn't campaigning on that kind of thing, Clinton was much more forthright about courting the votes of minorities — and maybe that offended them, and then eventually pushed them out and toward Trump."
For the most part, I agree. I think it goes deeper than that; people have been fearing the so-called "takeover" by minorities and the loss of privilege and power in certain circles of society. What was it, by 2050 whites will be the minority in this country? That's a scary proposition;
one that could invoke a strong reaction. But it seems to have manifested itself in a type of banding together for a last battle to "save" the race.
It reminds me of a movie, "McClintock", where the chief of the Comanche asks that the few warriors left in their tribe be given guns to have one final stand - and go down fighting. Fifty, a hundred years from now this will be a fading memory. I don't think it will be resolved in my lifetime, and it will be full of pain; growing pains.
People think they want change, but often resist it. This so-called movement is just another lurch forward. Like the flood in Texas, the water will crest, then find it's level.
SGG
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Originally posted by second:Quote:There are reasons to believe the Democratic Party has angry racists left behind when most of the angry racists switched over to being Republicans. They were numerous enough to swing the last Presidential election.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I try not to look at things as BLACK & WHITE so much, because I know things are much closer to GRAY than anything else.
I made a general statement and that was wrong, because it's not all "black and white"
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/24/16194086/bernie-trump-voters
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In key states that went for Trump — Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — the number of defectors from Sanders in the primary election to Trump in the general election were greater than Trump’s margin of victory, according to new numbers released Wednesday by UMass professor Brian Schaffner.
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Quote:I thought the facts were fairly obvious.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:You're kidding, right!?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Supporting FREEDOM of Speech has nominally been the mentality and covenant of the Far Right, The Right, Conservatives. Restrictions of Freedoms has been the hallmark of the Intolerants, Democrats, The Left.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.
SGG
SGG
Oh wait.
Your quoted comment about supporting Nazis is where you're just kidding - is that it?
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I'm going to do the Keeks and Sigs thing, let's see how this works:
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Supporting FREEDOM of Speech has nominally been the mentality and covenant of the Far Right, The Right, Conservatives.
Tell me, exactly how this manifests itself IYHO. How have The Right, The Far Right, supported Freedom of Speech. What specific laws have they supported, written or managed to further Democracy? How has the Right shown to be champions of Freedom of Speech. Give specifics!
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Restrictions of Freedoms has been the hallmark of the Intolerants, Democrats, The Left.
In contrast, how have the Left restricted the Freedoms that this country is widely been known for? Specifically, how have the Left been intolerant of these Freedoms. What is the Left?
SGG
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Not my quote, I merely agreed with it. So, if I support a president (in this case Obama), am I not supporting his approach to Democracy. As you say, supporting his leadership in restricting Freedoms?
If the answer is yes, then you do get it. If one supports a cause, then one believes in that cause. Therefore, if one supports the Far Right, the Left, The Walking Dead or Nazis; then it is safe to say that they support the individual causes of each of those ideals, beliefs or movements.
According to you: If I follow the Left, then I follow restrictions of Freedoms.
According to how I think and believe: Nazis, White Supremacists who believe that they are the superior race above all others - are dead wrong!
See how simple that is. The highlighted statement holds, IMHO.
SGG
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I thought the facts were fairly obvious.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You're kidding, right!?
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Supporting FREEDOM of Speech has nominally been the mentality and covenant of the Far Right, The Right, Conservatives. Restrictions of Freedoms has been the hallmark of the Intolerants, Democrats, The Left.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.
SGG
Oh wait.
Your quoted comment about supporting Nazis is where you're just kidding - is that it?
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Quote:That quote was posted by you on 16 August.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:Not my quote, I merely agreed with it. So, if I support a president (in this case Obama), am I not supporting his approach to Democracy. As you say, supporting his leadership in restricting Freedoms?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:I thought the facts were fairly obvious.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:Quote:You're kidding, right!?
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:Quote:Supporting FREEDOM of Speech has nominally been the mentality and covenant of the Far Right, The Right, Conservatives. Restrictions of Freedoms has been the hallmark of the Intolerants, Democrats, The Left.
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Supporting Nazis speaks volumes about the mentality of people on the far right.
SGG
SGG
Oh wait.
Your quoted comment about supporting Nazis is where you're just kidding - is that it?
If the answer is yes, then you do get it. If one supports a cause, then one believes in that cause. Therefore, if one supports the Far Right, the Left, The Walking Dead or Nazis; then it is safe to say that they support the individual causes of each of those ideals, beliefs or movements.
According to you: If I follow the Left, then I follow restrictions of Freedoms.
According to how I think and believe: Nazis, White Supremacists who believe that they are the superior race above all others - are dead wrong!
See how simple that is. The highlighted statement holds, IMHO.
SGG
Upon review of your reply and the posts surrounding it, in regards to the quote you were replying to, you were not with the others in condemning Free Speech supporters of legally permitted groups which included self identified Nazis. Instead you must have been referring to the Democrats and Socialists who supported the Nazis, as pointed out in the thread topic.
Looks like confusion resulted from others replying to the same post and condemning support for Free Speech Rights, which made your comment confusing when you mentioned the mindset of the Far Right in supporting Free Speech. Looks like your autocorrect changed Left to Right.
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