Why Nazis Are Just Copies of Democrats

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SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, August 21, 2017 10:29 AM

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Libtards are as Libtards do.
The term only applies to those intentionally blinding themselves to truth, fact, reason.

Right you are, Dickhead.

(Ya see Six, that's how it works....lol)

SGG

SHINYGOODGUY

Monday, August 21, 2017 11:11 AM

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If you quit the siphoning straw supplying your MSM Fake News,

I'm assuming you're talking about what Trump said? Key part of that sentence is "what Trump said" - How can that be Fake News. He opened his mouth and spoke the words. So, is he Fake?

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you might hear that more progress is being made in the Middle East by military forces than in the past 8 years.

Really!? Did anyone of consequence actually say the above words?

{quote]FDR's Isolationist practices would have done the opposite,

Avoiding the question, how typical. Isn't Trump espousing the "virtues" of Isolationism? You know, America for Americans; distancing himself from NATO;
criticizing our allies and destroying the very fabric of our foreign policy by dismantling the State Dept.

One more:

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Do you really believe there is no difference between the intermingling and corruption of Free Market, Enterprise - and the defense of liberty, freedom, and democratic Republics?

I do NOT understand your incoherent statement. The Free Market, as I have stated earlier, should be allowed to run it's course. That's a pretty straight forward statement. So, What intermingling? What corruption?
Please clarify.

SGG

SIGNYM

Monday, August 21, 2017 11:41 AM

I find this whole argument really stupid.

The original proponent of the argument Democrats >>> Nazis, D'Souza, presented such weak evidence (so far) that I find the idea preposterous. Nazis got their ideas from the various socialist movements of the day (Nazi = National Socialism) as well as a VERY robust history of anti-Jewish prejudice (which even my immigrant Polish relatives exhibited. You should read Isaac Bashevis Singer's The Slave, incredibly depressing.) plus a belief in the perfectibility of men into supermen (Ubermensch, Frederic Nietzche). Nazis HARDLY needed to reach to the relatively raw, untutored America for a eugenics and economic philosophy when they had such a rich history of their own!

Also, NAZIS WERE FUNDED BY REPUBLICANS - PRESCOT BUSH, THE ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION (WHICH FUNDED EUGENICS STUDIES), AND CHASE BANK (MAJORITY-OWNED BY ROCKEFELLER).

The idea that the Nazis are copies of/ an outgrowth of Democrats is .... shall I say it again ...?

Preposterous.

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If you quit the siphoning straw supplying your MSM Fake News, you might hear that more progress is being made in the Middle East by military forces than in the past 8 years.

9-11 occurred in 2001, one year into GWB's watch. Despite the trillion (or more) dollars that he spent on Mideast military invasions, he was no more and no less successful than Obama in ridding the Mideast of terrorists.

Why??

Because the goal was never to rid the Mideast of terrorists. In fact, we have been funding them. Our policies in the Mideast have petrodollar/ energy politics smeared all over them; and terrorists are our proxies (via the Saudis). Plus we've been fulfilling Israel's and Saudi Arabia's policy objectives all along. BOTH DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. This has nothing to do with DNC/ RNC and everything to do with the petrodollar, energy, and banking.

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FDR's Isolationist practices would have done the opposite, just like Bobo, Slick Willie, and Jiminy Cotta.

This has nothing to do with isolationism ... Bobo, Slick Willi and Jiminy Cotta were as interventionist as Bush and Bush Jr.

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And the point of The Big Lie that Nazis are copies of some group OTHER than Democraps is this thread topic.

Preposterous.

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Do you really believe there is no difference between the intermingling and corruption of Free Market, Enterprise - and the defense of liberty, freedom, and democratic Republics?

I have no idea what this means.

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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*

And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, August 22, 2017 2:03 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I did a search on fields+drugs and fields+psychotropic and didn't find anything, so if you can post links it would be much appreciated.

Perhaps keep in mind that most times the evidence of psychotropic drugs is withheld until after the trials. This pattern was changed drastically with the Aurora Theater Massacre, when after only 9 days the truth of James Holmes's prescribed use of psychotropic drugs was mistakenly revealed. (it was still withheld from the jury).
Authorities are working hard to keep the doctors protected and only prosecute their victims, the patients who took the drugs their doctors insisted they consume. Keeping the doctors off the hook is needed to obtain a successful prosecution.

http://thedeplorablearmy.com/1-thing-charlottesville-terror-attack-mai
n-stream-media-desperate-hide/

In this one, also note mentions of event organizer Kessler, regarding false flag operations by Obamabots.
http://investmentwatchblog.com/update-on-the-charlottesville-rallyalex
-fields-registered-republican-not-democratorganizer-jason-kessler-past-obama-supporter-setup-to-trap-the-alt-right/

These mention his prescriptions for psychotropic drugs, I haven't had time to view them.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/08/what-we-know-about-charlo
ttesville-suspect-james-alex-fields.html

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-james-fields-jr-char
lottesville-20170818-story.html

http://www.wcpo.com/news/national/charlottesville-crash-suspect-idd-as
-ohio-man

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2280514-more-details-revealed-on-james
-fields-man-accused-of-ramming-car-in-protesters/

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/charlottesville-crash-su
spect-idd-as-ohio-man

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2017/08/13/32-year-old-woman-killed
-at-white-supremacist-rally-in-charlottesville-ohio-man-charged.html

SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, August 23, 2017 2:06 PM

Oh my! You have discovered a well-hidden secret: Liberals are humans too.

Fuck yeah, I would like to see some people dead as a door nail. Assad? Hmmm, don't know if that would actually help. I see that we got Osama - DEAD
But fuck it all, there's still "radical Islamic terrorism." Shit, by that same token, I know that some KKK Grand Poobahs are deader than skunks, but we still got "men in sheets" carrying Tiki Torches.

Yeah, I agree, liberals can be real scumbags just like the rest. But my question is: why I don't care as much about those "really fine people."
Well, like the man said: "It's a mystery"

SGG

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey, all you liberals, I think you're missing the point.

Why did we destroy Afghanistan? Partly it was because they refused to turn over their guest (ObL) to the USA - although they WOULD have turned him over to the ICC, that wasn't good enough for us. Plus, the Taliban was in charge, and they treated females worse than donkeys. We needed to do something about that. When we were done, Afgahnistan was in far worse shape than when we started, and not only was the Taliban still in control of much of the countryside, ISIS reared its ugly head.

Why did we destroy Iraq? Well, "Saddam had WMD" and posed a major security risk to ... the USA, I guess ... Plus yanno he was a terrible dictator. So it was worth killing somewhere between 200,000- 1,000,000 civilians and leaving the nation partially occupied by ISIS and riven with ethnic hatred just to depose a dictator and get rid of phantom WMD.

Why did we destroy Libya? Well, Qaddafi was a terrible dictator, and despite the fact that the standard of living in Libya was VASTLY superior to any other nation in Africa, Qaddafi had to "massacre his own people" in order to stay in power, which somehow required not only a NATO no-fly zone but eventual bombing of the entire civilian space and arming radicalized jihadists to topple the leader. But we managed to take down Qaddafi and the price was only about 10,000 dead, a nation crawling with jihadist terrorists, and a catastrophic drop in living standards.

Why did we get involved in Ukraine? Well, despite having been elected into power, Yanukovich was a terrible corrupt oligarch - even more terrible and corrupt than the other terrible corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs - and despite the fact that early elections were offered to the protesters, even that wasn't enough for the State-Department and its NGOs and its team of merrie provovateurs, and they took down a democratically elected government and installed their appointed leaders, and now there are 11,000 dead civilians and the country is riven in three.

And what about Assad? Well, he was a terrible anti-democratic dictator, plus he "gassed how own people" (not) and so that justified our funding, training, and arming an assorted crew of old-guard al Qaeda terrorists, new-guard ISIS terrorists from Chechnya to Morocco, an almost invisible minority of pro-democracy forces (all 100 of them), and Kurdish separatists, as well as allowing Israel the random missile-strike into the Golan heights so they can keep their (Syrian) water source. So now there are 300,000+ dead Syrians, millions displaced and cities destroyed.

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You might ask what the point of this diatribe is.

The point is that LIBERALS are just as likely to kill and destroy as CONSERVATIVES. All you have to do is give them a gooey-sounding cause .... "freedom", "democracy", "human rights" .... and they will unthinkingly trample over a million bodies to pursue their just cause.

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Once you have a group of people with an ideology, they stop seeing others as people, and start seeing them in dehumanized form. "Those people" are not longer real people, they're blacks or whites; Democrats or Republicans; or Hutus or Tutsis; Sunnis or Shias; men or women. Once you have dehumanized someone in you

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SHINYGOODGUY

Wednesday, August 23, 2017 2:45 PM

Hey Six, to continue this conversation:

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I can be an asshole too, and you all know about my drunk history here. (Almost 8 months without a drop all on my own).

Before I say another word: Congrats Six on your staying sober. I have friends and family in that very situation, so I know it's not easy. Good luck to you.

Okay, enough with the sappiness....lol

There was something I wanted to say in addition to my last response to you. I'm not sure, but I believe you may have stated that I called you a Nazi.
I don't recall where, or if it was you, but no, I wouldn't do that. If I did (my memory has been a bit erratic lately) I apologize. In the long run, I really don't know you and I wouldn't want it done to me. Just wanted to get that out there to you. That is not my style, if I disagree with you I will say so.

Usually I will answer in such a way so that you get my meaning. If not, just ask. If I see a comment that I feel strongly about, I will comment.
If I agree, I will say so...but sometimes I want to make a point, so I'll comment. I don't believe I called anyone a Nazi. But if someone supports a group who's driving force is hate and prejudice...well, you tend to think that that person is sympathizing with their beliefs. I try not to look at things as BLACK & WHITE so much, because I know things are much closer to GRAY than anything else.

One point I wanted to make and so I add it here: If I support Obama, what will you think? That I'm a card carrying pansy-ass lefty liberal...in other words a Democrat. There's that label thing that Sigs was talking about.
But that doesn't make me that label, but you would have a picture in your head of the type of person I might be. I do it too, it's okay to admit.
But this forum has shown me some different things, and I'm hoping that others would come to discover themselves in the process as well.

Having said that I don't like Nazis, the KKK or WS because they tend to be BULLIES, and also because of what they believe - that superiority thing.
I made a general statement and that was wrong, because it's not all "black and white" and there are some good people on the right, conservatives, that
also despise fascism and racist qualities. My ex girlfriend's dad was a conservative, boy was he, who served his country during WWII and was a hard ass. But he loved his country almost as much as he loved his daughters. We would argue, but we respected each other.

Again, to reiterate, I follow no one. I have a set of values and I go by them. Freedom is something you work for, and I believe that everyone has a right to believe as they wish. I might not agree with you, but that's a part of life. We don't have to be all chummy to co-exist.

If you cut a human being, we all bleed red.

SGG

SECOND

Friday, August 25, 2017 5:25 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

I try not to look at things as BLACK & WHITE so much, because I know things are much closer to GRAY than anything else.

I made a general statement and that was wrong, because it's not all "black and white"

There are reasons to believe the Democratic Party has angry racists left behind when most of the angry racists switched over to being Republicans. They were numerous enough to swing the last Presidential election.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/24/16194086/bernie-trump-voters
-study

In key states that went for Trump — Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan — the number of defectors from Sanders in the primary election to Trump in the general election were greater than Trump’s margin of victory, according to new numbers released Wednesday by UMass professor Brian Schaffner.

Sanders -> Trump voters…
WI: 51k
MI: 47k
PA: 116k

Trump win margin…
WI: 22k
MI: 10k
PA: 44k

The professor goes on to explain why these Democrats voted for Trump:

"I also looked at how the Bernie-Trump voters identify themselves on the ideological scale, and very few say that they're liberal. Only about 17 to 18 percent say that they're liberal, in any kind of way, shape, or form, though they voted for Sanders.

By contrast, about 45 percent of these Bernie-Trump voters say they're ‘middle of the road’ — basically, a lot of them see themselves as “moderates.” Meanwhile, another 35 percent of them are claiming to be either somewhat conservative or very conservative.

I think what this starts to suggest to me is that these are old holdovers from the Democratic Party that are conservative on race issues. And while Bernie wasn't campaigning on that kind of thing, Clinton was much more forthright about courting the votes of minorities — and maybe that offended them, and then eventually pushed them out and toward Trump."

It’s been months since the election — why is this data coming out now?

"What we do with this survey is go back and match respondents to voter files because people lie about having voted, and especially lie about having voted in the primaries. What I was worried about is people who claimed to have voted in a primary for Bernie but didn’t.

So I waited until I had the data that matched the respondents to their voter file record, which allowed us to see — these are the people we know voted for a primary."

6STRINGJOKER

Friday, August 25, 2017 8:37 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Hey Six, to continue this conversation:

Before I say another word: Congrats Six on your staying sober. I have friends and family in that very situation, so I know it's not easy. Good luck to you.

Thanks man. I'm still not working an actual job yet, but I've been getting some stuff done that I've put off for years. I've also gotten pretty deep into some hobbies that I had lost interest in when I was drinking. I haven't started working out again yet, but I've been eating better and not consuming 2,500 empty beer calories at a time 3 to 4 times a week, so I've lost around 30 lbs since Christmas time and I'm looking and feeling a lot better.

The best part though is that I feel like I'm part of my family again. I've been doing a lot to help my parents who are selling their house and business and moving south, and I've been spending a lot more time with my niece than I ever had.

It's been good. I really don't think about drinking all that much anymore... I mean the urge to go right down the street and buy some. I know that part of it is that I have supplemented my life with other things though. Drinking a lot of coffee now and some of my projects are pretty OCD stuff that other people would think was crazy and extremely boring. I'm formulating a plan to make some money with the work now though. I'll never get rich off of it or anything, but it could be a good supplement to whatever shitty part time job I can get around here.

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Okay, enough with the sappiness....lol

Deal.

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There was something I wanted to say in addition to my last response to you. I'm not sure, but I believe you may have stated that I called you a Nazi.
I don't recall where, or if it was you, but no, I wouldn't do that. If I did (my memory has been a bit erratic lately) I apologize. In the long run, I really don't know you and I wouldn't want it done to me. Just wanted to get that out there to you. That is not my style, if I disagree with you I will say so.

No. You never said that word. I didn't accuse you of it either. I just spoke up and said something because I felt that you were falling in line with others here that do use the word.

I don't feel that anybody here on this board is a Nazi or a White Supremacist or even a sympathizer. Just because you're not a radical on the left side crying racism and parroting the MSM does not mean that you support those people.

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Usually I will answer in such a way so that you get my meaning. If not, just ask. If I see a comment that I feel strongly about, I will comment.
If I agree, I will say so...but sometimes I want to make a point, so I'll comment. I don't believe I called anyone a Nazi. But if someone supports a group who's driving force is hate and prejudice...well, you tend to think that that person is sympathizing with their beliefs. I try not to look at things as BLACK & WHITE so much, because I know things are much closer to GRAY than anything else.

I agree with all of that. That being said, I don't believe that anybody here is protecting, supporting or sympathizing with anybody who is spreading hate. Especially those who actually hurt or killed somebody else.

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One point I wanted to make and so I add it here: If I support Obama, what will you think? That I'm a card carrying pansy-ass lefty liberal...in other words a Democrat. There's that label thing that Sigs was talking about.

I'll admit that in general I don't have a high opinion of somebody who calls Obama a great president... especially if that's all I have to go on when interacting with that person. The internet makes it pretty easy to do that sort of thing. This conversation and a few others we've had on here tend to humanize things though and it's not so easy to just call you an SJW douche

I don't think that Obama lovers are

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Sunday, August 27, 2017 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by Wishimay:
Oh, and if you don't understand why Obama is NOT LIKE HITLER, you need to watch your entire family be gassed to death. It kinda has a way of making people figure out who the bad people are...

You mean like when Democrats killed their slaves?

Or how Democrats force marched Native Americans until whole tribes/nations were decimated, not merely families?

Or like when Obamacare Death Panels kill off your family members?

Or don't you understand how this has a way of making people figure out who the bad people are?

Or are you saying Bobo is divorced from Democrats?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:28 AM

Excellent example of the topic:

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