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The Evidens

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 11:43 AM

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You realize that the only way something like this would happen is if Signy were to be doxed like the guy that CNN went after.

If anyone were capable of doxing me, they would find out that I'm exactly who I said I was.

But - without a shred of evidens - people like THUGR and GSTRING keep making up crazy shit about me. So of course, if someone DID dox me, they would never post what they found because it would be contrary to the "fake news" they've been posting all along. So their complete and total paranoid fabrication about me is - to me -just evidens of what nut-cases they are.

Weird, huh?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:01 PM

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There is a problem with how you formulated the difference between Mueller and the CIA. Mueller goes to court and Congress. The CIA goes to war for the President.

The question isn't 'what kind of report' are we looking for, it's IS THERE EVIDENCE. Now, as I've pointed out, EITHER there already is evidence in the hands of our intelligence agencies and it's the basis for all their anonymous leaks, OR there is none, so we'll have to wait a long time for any evidence at all (and our 'intelligence' agencies have been making things up all along).

You seem to believe both.

So, which is it? It can only be one or the other. Does evidence already exist or are we going to have to wait for any?

As for our 'intelligence' agencies going 'to war for the president' - are you implying that they should be and are political agencies? Because, wasn't that the problem with the Iraq war? When the raw intelligence got corrupted for political purposes?

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

1KIKI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:31 PM

I find that our resident trolls. THUGGER and GEEBERS really ramp up throwing that word around when actual evidence craters the most.

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

JO753

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Whether Trump himself knew anything about the meetings his son was setting up is, of course, another matter.

Kieth Olbermann connected thoze dots:

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SECOND

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 7:25 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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There is a problem with how you formulated the difference between Mueller and the CIA. Mueller goes to court and Congress. The CIA goes to war for the President.

The question isn't 'what kind of report' are we looking for, it's IS THERE EVIDENCE. Now, as I've pointed out, EITHER there already is evidence in the hands of our intelligence agencies and it's the basis for all their anonymous leaks, OR there is none, so we'll have to wait a long time for any evidence at all (and our 'intelligence' agencies have been making things up all along).

You seem to believe both.

So, which is it? It can only be one or the other. Does evidence already exist or are we going to have to wait for any?

As for our 'intelligence' agencies going 'to war for the president' - are you implying that they should be and are political agencies? Because, wasn't that the problem with the Iraq war? When the raw intelligence got corrupted for political purposes?

Stop for once and read https://qz.com/1024135

Was there enough "evidence" to convict Trump in Congress? No. Was there enough "evidence" for every single intelligence official testifying before Congress? Yes. I'd give you an analog of why the same "evidence" in one situation leads to a No from Congress and a Yes from intelligence officials, but I know 1kiki would twist it. 1kiki argues in bad faith.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_faith

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THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:48 PM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But - without a shred of evidens - people like THUGR and GSTRING keep making up crazy shit about me.

I guess you missed where I said years - probably hundreds if not thousands - of posts are evidence to quite the opposite. I have no *agenda* or desire to make you out to be anything than who I perceive you to be from what you post here. And from that evidence you have shown a nearly complete hatred for the US and quite the opposite for Russia. If that's not who you are then you need to improve your communication skills.

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Yep, and that last sentence cracked me up. And it so makes the point.

6STRINGJOKER

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:50 PM

Does Olbermann ever have another look to him?

I can't figure who's face I think of more when I see T's signature. Seth Meyer or Keith Olbermann.

To Meyer's credit, he doesn't have a watermark of "GQ" over his mug every time there's a video posted of him.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:29 PM

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I guess you missed where I said years - probably hundreds if not thousands - of posts are evidence to quite the opposite. I have no *agenda* or desire to make you out to be anything than who I perceive you to be from what you post here.

Not too many posts ago, you thought you had "caught" me working at 11AM Moscow time, when in reality I was just having a hard time getting back to sleep at 3 AM.

The point, GSTRING and THUGR, is that everything I posted about myself is 100% true, no matter WHAT you imagine!I'm a real American mom, with a real family, a real job, living in SoCal, who has no connections at all to "Russia".

YOUR problem .... and it's a bigger problem than the paranoid pictures that you dream up about me .... is that you can't recognize a real American patriot when you see one. I personally don't see how it is in ANYONE's interests .... especially NOT OURS ... to be constantly aggressing against other nations.

We have to fight Russia in Syria because our critical interest in Syria is....?

We have to depose Assad because ....???

We had to depose Qaddafi because ....????

We had to depose Saddam because ...???

We had to depose the Taliban because ....???

We had to depose Yanukovich because ....???

We had to break up Sudan because ....????

We had to break up Yugoslavia because ....???

Nobody has managed to fill in those dots, and everything we tried in the last 20 years mostly benefited .... Saudi Arabia.

Did WE Americans get anything out of our free trade agreements?

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When I see our country making the same mistakes over and over and over .... costing much blood and treasure and jobs and leaving nothing but failed states and a burning desire in foreign states to "get back at" the nation who chose to visit them with missiles from the sky ... WTF??? How does that HELP us?

I can't help it if I'm not the paranoid, media-manipulable, instant-on warmongering bitch
that seems to be the only "acceptable" response for you. Sorry, but I just don't see "Russia" as our biggest problem ... I'm not even sure if it cracks the top five; I think we have MUCH bigger fish to fry, and our difference with Russia - if it boils down to disputes over territories that mean NOTHING to us - can be easily negotiated.

Which is why I keep asking what you think AMERICA's interests are. This laser-like focus on "Russia" just keeps you from focusing on what's REALLY important ... like our phenomenal debt in $USD and lack of manufacturing base.

WHAT DO YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS SHOULD DO NEXT, ASIDE FROM RUSSIA?

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

THGRRI

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:15 PM

Opps, try putting out this fire SIG. As I said, your lies are outing you as a Russia troll. No more smoke, now a raging fire.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, July 11, 2017 10:56 PM

AHA!!

Something that purports to be actual evidence!

At first blush. I'd say I don't think there's any such thing as a "Crown Prosecutor" in Russia, so I would be wary of the Russian contact's bona fides. But I'll look into it.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one