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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:11 AM

I'm wondering if all 3 are the same guy and he'z getting tired uv running too many sock puppets here and elswhere. Getting 1 kicked out for violating the 'repeated posts' rule (if it exists here) iz a clever way to liten the load and create a martyr figure.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:29 AM

I doubt that anybody is getting kicked for that.

Second might change up his posts, but really he's just posting the same crap over and over and over again too. Doesn't really deserve any unique replies.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I'm wondering if all 3 are the same guy and he'z getting tired uv running too many sock puppets here and elswhere. Getting 1 kicked out for violating the 'repeated posts' rule (if it exists here) iz a clever way to liten the load and create a martyr figure.

Ah, the old ad hominem ... a JOnesing special.

What does that have to do with Weissmann's overturned convictions, where his actions unanimously had the Supreme Court aghast? Or his prosecutorial misconduct? Or, after falsely instructing a witness to testify about hearsay conversation, and who appeared voluntarily, he then prosecuting him for perjury?

Do you have any response to the facts, SECOND-RATE?

I'm sure you don't. In fact, I guarantee you'll do one of four things 1) shift the topic, 2) disappear for a while and then shift the topic, 3) continue with an ad hominem, or 4) some combination of those.


Putting you back on 'ignore', again.





Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:36 AM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I doubt that anybody is getting kicked for that.

Second might change up his posts, but really he's just posting the same crap over and over and over again too. Doesn't really deserve any unique replies.

Pretty much.

SECOND-RATE seems overly anxious for a reply. WHY? It's not like SECOND-RATE ever engages in discussion.




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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
I'm wondering if all 3 are the same guy and he'z getting tired uv running too many sock puppets here and elswhere. Getting 1 kicked out for violating the 'repeated posts' rule (if it exists here) iz a clever way to liten the load and create a martyr figure.

I think 1kiki is paid by how many words posted. That's why 5 nearly identical posts in a row. But tomorrow, after 1kiki rests, there will be new posts, hopefully not the same-old-same-old.
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=same%20old%2C%20same%20old

Tonight I see a bunch of news stories passing a rumor that Trump will fire Mueller. I hope so because things are getting too repetitive about Trump/Russia. We need to freshen this story with a new drama about rule of law and Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre. Obstruction of justice is starting to bore me. Poor Mueller. If Trump doesn't fire him, he will have to do years of paperwork before he issues a final report, which will probably be ignored by the Republican controlled Congress. Mueller will probably feel the Futility.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Weren't you a Bernie person? When did you join the legal team defending the GOP?

Ah, the old ad hominem ... a SECOND-RATE special.

What does that have to do with Weissmann's overturned convictions, where his actions unanimously had the Supreme Court aghast? Or his prosecutorial misconduct? Or, after falsely instructing a witness to testify about hearsay conversation, and who appeared voluntarily, he then prosecuting him for perjury?

Do you have any response to the facts, SECOND-RATE?

I'm sure you don't. In fact, I guarantee you'll do one of four things 1) shift the topic, 2) disappear for a while and then shift the topic, 3) continue with an ad hominem, or 4) some combination of those.


Putting you back on 'ignore', again.






Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:00 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/justice-department-will-review
-possible-ethics-conflicts-involving-muellers-former-law-firm/2017/05/18/fff63f00-3bfa-11e7-a058-ddbb23c75d82_story.html?utm_term=.19195f2f95d0


I did a quick look at Robert Mueller's history. it seems excellent (on page 1 google search). There was one fly in the ointment -

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For the past three years, Mueller has been a partner in the Washington office of WilmerHale, whose attorneys represent former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, Trump’s daughter Ivanka and Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law.
- which didn't come to much.

OTOH some of his appointments stink.
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One of them, Jeannie Rhee, donated $5,400 to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign PAC Hillary for America, according to FEC reports. She also worked on behalf of the Clinton Foundation in at least one high-profile case.
And then there's Weissman, who left the Enron investigation due to rising evidence of prosecutorial misconduct. The list of his misconduct is lengthy, egregious, and troubling.
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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61712

Prosecutor's Record Destroys Credibility of Mueller Probe
(AP)

By Sidney Powell | Wednesday, 07 Jun 2017 11:28 AM


Former FBI Director, now special prosecutor, Robert Mueller has added Andrew Weissmann to the prosecution team investigating allegations of the Trump Administration's "collusion" with Russia.

Mainstream media has touted both men's credentials, but there is a huge back-story they all ignore.

Mr. Weissmann's real record as a "special prosecutor" is so egregious that Mr. Mueller's decision to choose his former counsel Weissmann should cause concern for anyone with even a passing interest in truth and justice.

From a tough mob prosecutor in the Eastern District of New York United States Attorney's Office (with former Attorney General Loretta Lynch and Assistant Attorney General Leslie Caldwell), Mr. Weissmann became the first Deputy Director — and then Director — of the elite Enron Task Force, formed in 1991.

The Task Force quickly devolved into a cabal that used mob tactics itself.

It dealt the death penalty to the venerable accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP, which employed 85,000 people world-wide and represented approximately 2500 publicly-traded companies. It even coerced a guilty plea out of Andersen partner David Duncan.

In a trial rife with prosecutorial misconduct obviously calculated to win at any cost, Weissmann helped rewrite crucial jury instructions defining the "crime" and the intent required.

Three years later, a unanimous Supreme Court reversed the conviction. All the justices agreed that Andersen's conduct was not a crime, and it was "shocking how little criminal culpability the jury instructions required."


In plain English, Mr. Weissmann concocted a crime, destroyed a company and 85,000 jobs, spent millions of tax dollars, and obtained a wrongful conviction — all for nothing.

The prosecutors were so over-reaching that the judge even allowed Mr. Duncan to withdraw his guilty plea.

Weissmann ran the grand jury like a petty tyrant. He instructed one defendant (my client) — who had appeared voluntarily — to share his "personal understanding" of a telephone call he had not even participated in, "whether his understanding was accurate or not." Then, Weissmann indicted him for perjury and obstruction of justice for his answer.

Determined to "send a message to Wall Street," Weissmann supervised the prosecution of four Merrill Lynch executives on charges that were unprecedented.

Like a character from the TV series The Blacklist, Weissmann himself often made multiple phone calls to lawyers for potential defense witnesses, t

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:25 AM

Specifically looking at how Mueller views privacy of US citizens and rights in general -

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/306703-fbi-admits-using-drones-to-spy
-in-us


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/13/fbi-mueller-spy-tactics-
9-11-boston


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/30846430/ns/world_news-terrorism/t/fbi-chief
-worried-about-gitmo-detainees-us/#.WT9ywHZXais




And some interesting dirt on Comey

http://circa.com/politics/accountability/james-comey-sued-by-intellige
nce-contractor-dennis-montgomery-over-spying-on-americans





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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:53 PM

Iz it possible that prosecuting crooks who hav sekseeded by gaming the system may occasionally require less than perfectly to the letter uv the law actionz?

Or maybe you think Enron wuz the real victim?

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 5:50 PM

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Iz it possible that prosecuting crooks who hav sekseeded by gaming the system may occasionally require less than perfectly to the letter uv the law actionz?

Or maybe you think Enron wuz the real victim? = JO

Or maybe you have very slippery standards about the administration of justice?

JO, do you know what saves us from mob rule?

Process.

Just because you don't "like" the accused doesn't mean you should abrogate justice. If there is one evil in this world that I can point to, it's the evil of good people doing bad things because they think all will be forgiven if they're working towards a Good Cause. More evil has been done in the name of a "good cause" by people who THOUGHT they were "doing good" than by people who thought they were doing evil.

If you don't like the result, change the process. There are procedures on how to do that, too.



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All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

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