Is Kathy Griffin nuts?
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Despite her apology - after her utlimate act of virtue signaling by holding up the blood-soaked head of the president backfired - President Trump and his family failed to find the humor in this heinous act.First Donald Trump Jr. tweet-raged...
Disgusting but not surprising. This is the left today. They consider this acceptable. Imagine a conservative did this to Obama as POTUS? https://t.co/QdghcbIjS7 — Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) May 30, 2017
And this morning the President himself reacted...
Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 31, 2017
We are sure this outrage will be seen as some badge of honor for the New Year's Eve counter-downer, but perhaps we should reflect on what this really means. As Martin Armstrong writes...
While Kathy Griffin apologizes for going tooooo far, that is obviously only because of the flack she got for even doing this photo.
If it were Obama, she would be called a racist. The mere simple act of doing something like this is exposing just how dangerous the future truly is. We have the left who thinks it is their God given right to suppress if not kill anyone who disagrees with them. I for one am starting to lean for the break up of the United States and all the leftists please move to the left of the country and anyone else who wants freedom from these insane people, move to the right.
They never heard of freedom and that means to enjoy your own life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without being told what to do by people who want to rule the world their way. I have always had a simple motto – live and let live. I ask for nothing but freedom from oppression. Tyranny is what these people preach. It is their way or no way. We need to separate or there will be blood in the streets.
It’s very simple. I fully agree with Patrick Henry. They have no right to subjugate the 50% they seem to hate so much.
I hope the Secret Service got on her ass.
I recall how upset "liberals" were when right-wing racists posted pictures of Obama with a bullseye on him, or when they posted pictures of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon. How liberals rolled their eyes when the right-wing hounded Obama ENDLESSLY about his long-form birth certificate.
Well, apparently liberals feel it's now OK to do the same to Trump. Somehow, when it's THEIR cause, no action is unjustified.
So Kathy Griffin wants to pose like jihadi-Jane? May her career go down in flames.
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No, she's just really tired of our "Chief" being a disrespectful, disillusioned clown. Tired of him inspiring the mentally ill to attack anything not white, and really really tired of what he and his worms are trying to do to women.
She usually does go that one step too far, so it's not surprising. I'm sure it's not the worst thing Barron has seen regarding his father, if he saw it at all, but nice attempt at manipulating the masses with it...
"Oh poor wittle Barron" he saw a bloody mask, he'll never recover.
Unfortunately, this country may never recover.
his whole damned worthless family, for that matter.
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How would you feel about someone holding up a bloody Hillary-head? Would that be excusable on the basis that they were just pissed?
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Not surprised that Wish is on board with it. Not even being apologetic of it, but fully on board with it.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How would you feel about someone holding up a bloody Hillary-head? Would that be excusable on the basis that they were just pissed?
Ok, I think I've made it clear that I am not a fan

I think I've also made it clear politicians in general ARE THE ENEMY.
Let's behead them all, I'll help
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She's someone who I can never remember finding funny, and this stunt... The opposite of funny.
For once I agree with Sig, w/ respect to her career, I would happily never see or hear from this woman again.
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Originally posted by G:
Yeah she's big time nuts and never been the least bit funny imho. Being vulgar is not funny, it's lazy and cheap - really not unlike the person she's defaming. If you look enough you will see people from all sides disgusted with her.
BTW - did you have to post that picture? Most people find it enough to simply describe it. How are you not being an accomplice to her bad taste by showing it?
I think it was good for Signy to post the picture to illustrate just how disgusting it was. I never would have seen it myself anywhere else. I don't do facebook or anything.
It's good to hear from you that you don't approve either. This action does illustrate perfectly my disgust with the Left in general and how they feel entitled to do things like this on an almost daily basis. I'm glad that people from all sides are coming out against this.
As for Kathy, she's trying to re-live the days where she was a no-talent D-List celebrity. She was never funny. She was one of those extras they'd throw in on the Celebrity Roasts on Comedy Central when they couldn't book anybody else.
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Kathy Griffin: CNN drops comic after 'sick' Trump stunt
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40108959
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She has about as much class as Trump; none. ![]()
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So she had a picture of a bloody Trump head? So what? What's the big fucking deal? Oh, all the precious little snowflakes out there are so upset? Hey, blow me! I'll miss her on CNN's New Year's coverage, as she is the only person on any channel who isn't boring beyond human tolerance. I might actually have to go out on New Year's. Damn!
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Quote:Dressed in shorts with images of Mexican men emblazoned on them, Trump effigy is holding Hillary's severed head
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I think it was good for Signym to post the picture to illustrate just how disgusting it was.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/02/donald-trump-effigy-holding-hillar
y-clintons-head-to-be-burnt-as/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
So she had a picture of a bloody Trump head? So what? What's the big fucking deal?
Well, for once...I agree.
Roll yer eyes and move on.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Dressed in shorts with images of Mexican men emblazoned on them, Trump effigy is holding Hillary's severed head
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I think it was good for Signym to post the picture to illustrate just how disgusting it was.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/02/donald-trump-effigy-holding-hillar
y-clintons-head-to-be-burnt-as/
Why do you constantly quote me and then respond with articles that have nothing to do with anything? I'm assuming you read the article and already knew that.
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Quote:Nothing to do? A severed Trump dummy head was "disgusting" to you, yet the severed head of Hillary was nothing to you, even though it was held by Trump? You really don't see the obvious similarity of the two severed heads, do you? Real life is gonna keep kicking hard your blind ass until you do see the easy connections all around you.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Dressed in shorts with images of Mexican men emblazoned on them, Trump effigy is holding Hillary's severed head
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I think it was good for Signym to post the picture to illustrate just how disgusting it was.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/02/donald-trump-effigy-holding-hillar
y-clintons-head-to-be-burnt-as/]
Why do you constantly quote me and then respond with articles that have nothing to do with anything? I'm assuming you read the article and already knew that.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
No, she's just really tired of our "Chief" being a disrespectful, disillusioned clown. Tired of him inspiring the mentally ill to attack anything not white, and really really tired of what he and his worms are trying to do to women.
They're not trying to do anything to women. It's a completely false charge, and a baseless foundation on which to cry wolf over. He's done nothing wrong, and certainly nothing to deserve THIS. And it's utter nonsense to suggest Trump has any intent or interest in " inspiring the mentally ill " to attack anything not white. Good fucking grief.
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She usually does go that one step too far, so it's not surprising. I'm sure it's not the worst thing Barron has seen regarding his father, if he saw it at all, but nice attempt at manipulating the masses with it...
Pretty sure a graphic portrayal of his own father's head IS the worst thing he's seen. The kid is 11. I can't believe I have to say this, but imagine if Ted Nugent or someone did the same thing to Obama. Aside from the literal attempts on that person's life, we'd have to hear all about the poor girls, and what THEY must be going through. Barron is younger than either Obama girl.
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"Oh poor wittle Barron" he saw a bloody mask, he'll never recover.
Unfortunately, this country may never recover.his whole damned worthless family, for that matter.
You're pretty fucking heartless, and insensitive. The fabricated hyperbole that Trump is going to do, has done to this country, in just over 100 days, is nothing less than pure mindless hysteria. But this isn't about his politics. It's about human civility. One thing the Left in this country, and the world for that matter, a completely lacking.
And yes, Kathy is nuts. She thinks her photographer made her look like a teenager. Seriously ! She thinks she looks GOOD in that photo !
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And least anyone fail to remember, or didn't know, it was a Hillary grub who offered up this ' clever ' little gem, before the election... 
Hardy har har ! Sooo funny, right? My my, Hildabeast was going to slay that evil Trump MAN, and save us all !
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're pretty fucking heartless, and insensitive.
And you are a TOOL that hasn't had a thought of your OWN in years, if ever.
Everything you spout is a sound bite of other people and you have NEVER been able to see anything besides the surface façade. You are incapable of seeing intent.
It's all just a political game, and ploy for sympathy. EVERYTHING he does is a game.
OF COURSE you would cry foul, it's all you've got
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Nothing to do? A severed Trump dummy head was "disgusting" to you, yet the severed head of Hillary was nothing to you, even though it was held by Trump? You really don't see the obvious similarity of the two severed heads, do you? Real life is gonna keep kicking hard your blind ass until you do see the easy connections all around you.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Dressed in shorts with images of Mexican men emblazoned on them, Trump effigy is holding Hillary's severed head
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I think it was good for Signym to post the picture to illustrate just how disgusting it was.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/02/donald-trump-effigy-holding-hillar
y-clintons-head-to-be-burnt-as/]
Why do you constantly quote me and then respond with articles that have nothing to do with anything? I'm assuming you read the article and already knew that.
Let's see... where do we start.
Well, I think the obvious is as good a place as any. One picture looks like it came out of a Saw movie, the other looks like a caricature you'd have made of yourself at Great America.
My point was that the Left does this sort of stuff almost every day. You reply with this article. The article doesn't go into any detail of who the Edenbridge Bonfire Society is or their political affiliation. Given the fact that they weren't being attacked by the writers of the article, I had to assume that they were not Right Wingers.
But since you had this dumbass reply for me, I decided to look into who they are: http://thebonfireboys.weebly.com/
They're not even Americans, and I still don't know what their political affiliation is, if any. It might explain why they know how to just have a good time and leave the politics at the door. "We just know that it’s a good excuse for a great night out!!"
So explain to me again how exactly your post had any relevancy to anything I said and why you constantly quote things I say and then post articles that have nothing to do with anything.
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You know what's ironic, Rappy...If it was the other side you'd be calling them "snowflakes" about making a big deal about it, but hey...It's not YOUR political cult so you ask for "sensitivity". Sorry, your cult lost the rights to "sensitivity" about 30 yrs ago when you started to pretend you were all cowboys.
"Mom, there was a lady holding a bloody mask of dad's head on the tv...Is dad dead?"
"No, son. Unfortunately, I still have to pretend I care about the guy, even though it's painfully obvious I can't even stand to touch the pig......Now go back to your Grand Theft Auto and make sure you beat that hoe down on the left..."
The only joke here is that people BOUGHT that. 11 is Jr high, people. If Barron thought it was real, than Rosie O'Donnell is RIGHT, he does have Autism...
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^ Well, all right then ...
At least she got fired for it. :)
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I love how the far right complain about liberals, boy oh boy! (actually it's a good likeness of Trump).
I have two words in rebuttal for ya, Ted Nugent!
Just so you don't get your panties in a twist, it is in poor taste, but that's how it goes.
Now, about that little Russia thing.....
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Despite her apology - after her utlimate act of virtue signaling by holding up the blood-soaked head of the president backfired - President Trump and his family failed to find the humor in this heinous act.First Donald Trump Jr. tweet-raged...
Disgusting but not surprising. This is the left today. They consider this acceptable. Imagine a conservative did this to Obama as POTUS? https://t.co/QdghcbIjS7 — Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) May 30, 2017
And this morning the President himself reacted...
Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 31, 2017
We are sure this outrage will be seen as some badge of honor for the New Year's Eve counter-downer, but perhaps we should reflect on what this really means. As Martin Armstrong writes...
While Kathy Griffin apologizes for going tooooo far, that is obviously only because of the flack she got for even doing this photo.
If it were Obama, she would be called a racist. The mere simple act of doing something like this is exposing just how dangerous the future truly is. We have the left who thinks it is their God given right to suppress if not kill anyone who disagrees with them. I for one am starting to lean for the break up of the United States and all the leftists please move to the left of the country and anyone else who wants freedom from these insane people, move to the right.
They never heard of freedom and that means to enjoy your own life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without being told what to do by people who want to rule the world their way. I have always had a simple motto – live and let live. I ask for nothing but freedom from oppression. Tyranny is what these people preach. It is their way or no way. We need to separate or there will be blood in the streets.
It’s very simple. I fully agree with Patrick Henry. They have no right to subjugate the 50% they seem to hate so much.
I hope the Secret Service got on her ass.
I recall how upset "liberals" were when right-wing racists posted pictures of Obama with a bullseye on him, or when they posted pictures of Obama eating fried chicken and watermelon. How liberals rolled their eyes when the right-wing hounded Obama ENDLESSLY about his long-form birth certificate.
Well, apparently liberals feel it's now OK to do the same to Trump. Somehow, when it's THEIR cause, no action is unjustified.
So Kathy Griffin wants to pose like jihadi-Jane? May her career go down in flames.
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Here's the thing, why in heaven's name would Baron be watching anything so vile (I'm talking about the Griffin thing, he sees his father daily, that in itself could be traumatic).
So, if he did see it....that's good parenting. And, despite the fact that Trump is a low-life scumbag prick who doesn't deserve a smidgen of sympathy.....well, er...
I lost my train of thought. Oh well, what the heck!
SGG
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
No, she's just really tired of our "Chief" being a disrespectful, disillusioned clown. Tired of him inspiring the mentally ill to attack anything not white, and really really tired of what he and his worms are trying to do to women.
She usually does go that one step too far, so it's not surprising. I'm sure it's not the worst thing Barron has seen regarding his father, if he saw it at all, but nice attempt at manipulating the masses with it...
"Oh poor wittle Barron" he saw a bloody mask, he'll never recover.
Unfortunately, this country may never recover.his whole damned worthless family, for that matter.
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I think Hilary would get a good chuckle out of it.
SGG
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How would you feel about someone holding up a bloody Hillary-head? Would that be excusable on the basis that they were just pissed?
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Hanging Obama in effigy, given this country's history with slavery.....
Truly, this was all kinds of bad. But please spare me with the outrage.
SGG
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Not surprised that Wish is on board with it. Not even being apologetic of it, but fully on board with it.
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Wish, you are one sick puppy.............I love it!!!
SGG
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
How would you feel about someone holding up a bloody Hillary-head? Would that be excusable on the basis that they were just pissed?
Ok, I think I've made it clear that I am not a fan
I think I've also made it clear politicians in general ARE THE ENEMY.
Let's behead them all, I'll helpBwahaaahaaahaaaa
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Well said G!
SGG
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So Kathy Griffin wants to pose like jihadi-Jane? May her career go down in flames.
Yeah she's big time nuts and never been the least bit funny imho. Being vulgar is not funny, it's lazy and cheap - really not unlike the person she's defaming. If you look enough you will see people from all sides disgusted with her.
BTW - did you have to post that picture? Most people find it enough to simply describe it. How are you not being an accomplice to her bad taste by showing it?
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Here's the thing, the sequel.....she's a "D" lister and she knows it. She bases her whole routine on that fact. Her career never set the world on fire, but like a somewhat decent human being, she saw her mistake and apologized. Unlike Trump and Nugent, who never apologized to Obama, Hilary or any other woman for that fact.
(As an aside, Nugent would often write songs that dealt with his penchant for fucking under-aged teen females. That's the life of a real low-life scumbag...including Trump who grabs them by the pussy...lest we forget).
SGG
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Originally posted by kpo:
She's someone who I can never remember finding funny, and this stunt... The opposite of funny.
For once I agree with Sig, w/ respect to her career, I would happily never see or hear from this woman again.
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Ah, the plot thickens.........
SGG
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Originally posted by second:Quote:Dressed in shorts with images of Mexican men emblazoned on them, Trump effigy is holding Hillary's severed head
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I think it was good for Signym to post the picture to illustrate just how disgusting it was.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/02/donald-trump-effigy-holding-hillar
y-clintons-head-to-be-burnt-as/![]()
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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You know Six, sometimes your answers to posts utterly amazes me. You really didn't see the glaring similarities? Man, you have really committed to drinking the "Kool Aid" haven't you.
SGG
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by second:Quote:Dressed in shorts with images of Mexican men emblazoned on them, Trump effigy is holding Hillary's severed head
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I think it was good for Signym to post the picture to illustrate just how disgusting it was.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/02/donald-trump-effigy-holding-hillar
y-clintons-head-to-be-burnt-as/
Why do you constantly quote me and then respond with articles that have nothing to do with anything? I'm assuming you read the article and already knew that.
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What really gets me Riverlove, is how these "concerned" citizens complain about the left and liberals making fun of the dumbest motherfucker on the face of the planet, but not a peep about the heinous murderous act committed by a crazy fuck in Portland Oregon.
NOT A WORD!
Kathy Griffin's little "joke" is child's play compared to that scumbag killing two innocent bystanders who were sticking up for two innocent women. Like most bullies, they pick on the innocent decent people and he was so brave and strong that he carried a knife. But do we hear anything regarding the despicable act - NO!
When Siggy, Rappy, Sixstring and others condemn THAT behavior, then MAYBE, just maybe I'll listen.
SGG
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
So she had a picture of a bloody Trump head? So what? What's the big fucking deal? Oh, all the precious little snowflakes out there are so upset? Hey, blow me! I'll miss her on CNN's New Year's coverage, as she is the only person on any channel who isn't boring beyond human tolerance. I might actually have to go out on New Year's. Damn!
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The picture of Kathy Griffin, holding up a bloody
Trump head ... It apalls & offends me, very much.
The picture of Trump holding a Hillary head, not
so much ... because it's a drawing, a charicature.
I can't blame Trump, because He Did Not Do It!!
Whoever tried to put this on him is sneaky scum.
There've been political cartoons & parodies forever.
I don't recall anything this offensive ever before.
When I was a rebellious kid, they told me that good
manners are very important. ... They were right.
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SHINY, I kinda scrolled through your many, many posts and I have to say ..... I have absolutely no idea WHAT you're for, or against.
Quote:Yes, it goes without saying ... it was a terrible thing, to murder two men who were trying to calm him down. Don't we have enough extremism of all kinds right now, without adding anti-Muslim extremism into the mix?
When Siggy, Rappy, Sixstring and others condemn THAT behavior, then MAYBE, just maybe I'll listen.
So, are you doing to start "listening" now? Or are you still going to be plugging your ears and saying "Nyah nyah nyah I can't hear you"?
Speaking of extremism: EVERGREEN COLLEGE
‘Professor told he’s not safe on campus after college protests’ at Evergreen State College
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2017/05/26/pr
ofessor-told-hes-not-safe-on-campus-after-college-protests-at-evergreen-state-university-washington/
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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So, here's the thing ...
When someone says they're against Muslims/ Jews/ whites/ blacks/ women/ men/ gays etc and goes out bashing them .... well, there's a consistency of thought and action.
But when someone is fighting a racist fight against racism, or bombing people to impose freedom, or stupidly attacking someone's (presumed) stupidity ... well, there's kind of a disconnect between stated goals and action.
If anyone has read "The Authoritarians" http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/ they probably skimmed over the part where Bob Altemeyer says that it is also possible to be a LEFT WING authoritarian. He doesn't make much of it because, as he explains, in the then-current climate (GWB Presidency) there were far many more examples of rightwing authoritarianism extant. But, he insisted, leftwing authoritarianism was also possible.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Originally posted by Wishimay:
The only joke here is that people BOUGHT that. 11 is Jr high, people. If Barron thought it was real, than Rosie O'Donnell is RIGHT, he does have Autism...
Wow. Having a kid with special needs yourself it's touching to see you just overflowing with empathy as usual.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
The picture of Kathy Griffin, holding up a bloody
Trump head ... It apalls & offends me, very much.
The picture of Trump holding a Hillary head, not
so much ... because it's a drawing, a charicature.
I can't blame Trump, because He Did Not Do It!!
Whoever tried to put this on him is sneaky scum.
There've been political cartoons & parodies forever.
I don't recall anything this offensive ever before.
When I was a rebellious kid, they told me that good
manners are very important. ... They were right.
Here's your reply SGG.
I thought you might listen to it if it came from somebody who is not a fan of Trump.
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Originally posted by G:
When are you going to take full responsibility for Trump? I know, never.
Why would or should any one person take full responsibility for Trump? Maybe 1/60,000,000+th of the responsibility.
But that's not honest either.
The left wing extremism that had been allowed to take over this country and most of the media in the last 8 years is what lead to Trump. Even T has recognized on several occasions here that the Democrats have thrown the white working class to the wolves.
My only fear is if Trump doesn't actually make things better for Americans in 4 or 8 years. GWB's terrible presidency gave birth to Obama. I don't even want to imagine what sort of monster 8 years of a terrible Trump presidency would give birth to.
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SIX - you should expect WISHY to defend raging women everywhere... it's who she REALLY empathizes with!
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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
I love how the far right complain about liberals, boy oh boy! (actually it's a good likeness of Trump).
I have two words in rebuttal for ya, Ted Nugent!
SGG
This is the point SGG. Right on the money. I would add, SIG started this thread and what Griffin did is exactly what SIG does here all the time. She uses this type of sick story to promote her sick agenda.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
What really gets me Riverlove, is how these "concerned" citizens complain about the left and liberals making fun of the dumbest motherfucker on the face of the planet, but not a peep about the heinous murderous act committed by a crazy fuck in Portland Oregon.
NOT A WORD!
Kathy Griffin's little "joke" is child's play compared to that scumbag killing two innocent bystanders who were sticking up for two innocent women. Like most bullies, they pick on the innocent decent people and he was so brave and strong that he carried a knife. But do we hear anything regarding the despicable act - NO!
When Siggy, Rappy, Sixstring and others condemn THAT behavior, then MAYBE, just maybe I'll listen.
SGGQuote:
Originally posted by Riverlove:
So she had a picture of a bloody Trump head? So what? What's the big fucking deal? Oh, all the precious little snowflakes out there are so upset? Hey, blow me! I'll miss her on CNN's New Year's coverage, as she is the only person on any channel who isn't boring beyond human tolerance. I might actually have to go out on New Year's. Damn!
According to his Facebook page, the Portland Muslim-hater is no fan of Trump, he's a Bernie Sanders supporter. Other than he's a crazy psycho, there's nothing else to say about it, unless you want to blame Bernie for this guy's murderous actions.
As to the Kathy Griffin thing, like you, I have no illusion of civility or respect anymore for my political and cultural enemies. Unlike you, however, I usually don't rant about it here because that's just a waste of time.
As for Trump, the good book says "as you sow, so shall you reap". He ran a scorched earth campaign to win, so he shouldn't expect rose petals and platitudes now.
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Originally posted by Oonjerah:
When I was a rebellious kid, they told me that good
manners are very important. ... They were right.
Um, that's because you were a rebellious kid. Did you never learn that bad manners can be just as important??
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Quote:Only YOU would confuse posing with the likeness of a beheaded President as a "story" of ANY kind!
This is the point SGG. Right on the money. I would add, SIG started this thread and what Griffin did is exactly what SIG does here all the time. She uses this type of sick story to promote her sick agenda.
Facts, allegations, stories, threats, opinions, speculation, trolling ... it's all the same to you, apparently.
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THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Only YOU would confuse posing with the likeness of a beheaded President as a "story" of ANY kind!
Holy fuck SIG. You created this thread based on the news story. You made it a story here because you SIG, thought it was worth repeating. You really are a walking argument for birth control..
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Maybe, THUGR, you should read your own posts with comprehension
Quote:KATHY GRIFFIN is not "telling a story" of ANY kind with her sick little stunt.
what Griffin did is exactly what SIG does here all the time. She uses this type of sick story to promote her sick agenda.
Like I said, apparently telling a story, trolling, speculation, presenting evidence ... it's all just one big bowl of oatmeal in your head, isn't it?
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Maybe, THUGR, you should read your own posts with comprehensionQuote:KATHY GRIFFIN is not "telling a story" of ANY kind with her sick little stunt.
what Griffin did is exactly what SIG does here all the time. She uses this type of sick story to promote her sick agenda.
Like I said, apparently telling a story, trolling, speculation, presenting evidence ... it's all just one big bowl of oatmeal in your head, isn't it?
So there's no point to what she's doing then. Ever heard a pictures worth a thousand words SIG? And what's a thousand words SIG except a story or narrative.
A narrative or story is any report of connected events, actual or imaginary, presented in a sequence of written or spoken words, or still or moving images.
And why did you repost it SIG? If not to use it as a visual for your demented story.
You really are a demented nut. Four cents short of a nickel.
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Quote:I didn't say that. A "story" has a narrative - a beginning, a middle, and an end, connected by a logical sequence of events. (Logical for the author, anyway.) Griffin's picture has a point, but it's not to tell a story.
So there's no point to what she's doing then.-
Quote:So, what "thousand words" would YOU attach to the picture? And do you think it would be the same as MY words, if I could even dredge up a hundred?
Ever heard a pictures worth a thousand words SIG? And what's a thousand words SIG except a story or narrative.
Quote:Or still or moving images - plural. A series of still images, such as a comic book, which illustrate a SERIES of events.
A narrative or story is any report of connected events, actual or imaginary, presented in a sequence of written or spoken words, or still or moving images.
The problem with images, even a series of them, is that they need the viewer to have an understanding of the context. A series of pictures of the My Lai massacre, for example, would require the viewer to know about the Vietnam War and America's role in it, the focus on "body counts" and the frustration of troops fighting guerrillas in order to understand what the pictures are "saying".
Quote:As a visual, not as the story. So, what is MY story, do you suppose?
And why did you repost it SIG? If not to use it as a visual for your demented story.
You really are a demented nut. Four cents short of a nickel.
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:I didn't say that. A "story" has a narrative - a beginning, a middle, and an end, connected by a logical sequence of events. (Logical for the author, anyway.) Griffin's picture has a point, but it's not to tell a story.
So there's no point to what she's doing then.-
The human saga is a never ending story, narrative, same thing. Her photo is her wordless narrative and a footnote in that story. Your reposting it is another footnote in that story.
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T
Ever heard a pictures worth a thousand words SIG? And what's a thousand words SIG except a story or narrative.
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SIG
So, what "thousand words" would YOU attach to the picture? And do you think it would be the same as MY words, if I could even dredge up a hundred?
I already did. I said she has no class.Quote:
T
A narrative or story is any report of connected events, actual or imaginary, presented in a sequence of written or spoken words, or still or moving images.Quote:
SIG
Or still or moving images - plural. A series of still images, such as a comic book, which illustrate a SERIES of events.
No SIG, one or the other or both, not plural. Plural is consisting of, containing, or pertaining to more than one. In this case it was just a photo.
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The problem with images, even a series of them, is that they need the viewer to have an understanding of the context. A series of pictures of the My Lai massacre, for example, would require the viewer to know about the Vietnam War and America's role in it, the focus on "body counts" and the frustration of troops fighting guerrillas in order to understand what the pictures are "saying".
Subjective bullshit.Quote:
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And why did you repost it SIG? If not to use it as a visual for your demented story.Quote:
SIG
As a visual, not as the story. So, what is MY story, do you suppose?
You are a demented nut. Four cents short of a nickel and these threads are full of disgusting images posted by you.NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
THUGGER IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR.
Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.
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Originally posted by Wishimay:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're pretty fucking heartless, and insensitive.
And you are a TOOL that hasn't had a thought of your OWN in years, if ever.
Everything you spout is a sound bite of other people and you have NEVER been able to see anything besides the surface façade. You are incapable of seeing intent.
It's all just a political game, and ploy for sympathy. EVERYTHING he does is a game.
OF COURSE you would cry foul, it's all you've got![]()
You're still a heartless, insensitive git, Wish.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
What really gets me Riverlove, is how these "concerned" citizens complain about the left and liberals making fun of the dumbest motherfucker on the face of the planet, but not a peep about the heinous murderous act committed by a crazy fuck in Portland Oregon.
NOT A WORD!
Kathy Griffin's little "joke" is child's play compared to that scumbag killing two innocent bystanders who were sticking up for two innocent women. Like most bullies, they pick on the innocent decent people and he was so brave and strong that he carried a knife. But do we hear anything regarding the despicable act - NO!
When Siggy, Rappy, Sixstring and others condemn THAT behavior, then MAYBE, just maybe I'll listen.
SGG
Not sure why I was brought into the events in Portland. The knifer / murderer seemed to support Bernie more than anyone, and hated Trump and Hillary. I think he snapped after Trump won ( if he was ever coherent - I kinda doubt it ) , and tried to troll the ' free speech ' movement, parroting them as he was mocking ...attacking damn near everything.
Kathy did far more than " make fun of " Trump. Even Al Franken, Ms Griffin's friend and colleague, condemned the act. EVERYONE did, save for a few true loony nut jobs on the Left. You one of them ?
Frankly, don't care.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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I kind of ignored the whole Portland thing myself because I don't see how it has anything to do with me at all either.
Since I don't suffer from any White Guilt and have discussed the reasons why on other threads, I'm certainly not going to apologize for his behavior because he's an idiot who happens to be white.
He's just some crazy dude that deserves whatever he gets now, which should be a life in prison or the death penalty depending on the law there.
Why would it be my job to condemn his behavior?
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Fucking typical response and one of the main reasons I "brought you in" to this.
Have the balls to call me a lefty, if that's what you want. And since everyone has to have a label, call me whatever..............
Because I don't give a FUCK!
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
What really gets me Riverlove, is how these "concerned" citizens complain about the left and liberals making fun of the dumbest motherfucker on the face of the planet, but not a peep about the heinous murderous act committed by a crazy fuck in Portland Oregon.
NOT A WORD!
Kathy Griffin's little "joke" is child's play compared to that scumbag killing two innocent bystanders who were sticking up for two innocent women. Like most bullies, they pick on the innocent decent people and he was so brave and strong that he carried a knife. But do we hear anything regarding the despicable act - NO!
When Siggy, Rappy, Sixstring and others condemn THAT behavior, then MAYBE, just maybe I'll listen.
SGG
Not sure why I was brought into the events in Portland. The knifer / murderer seemed to support Bernie more than anyone, and hated Trump and Hillary. I think he snapped after Trump won ( if he was ever coherent - I kinda doubt it ) , and tried to troll the ' free speech ' movement, parroting them as he was mocking ...attacking damn near everything.
Kathy did far more than " make fun of " Trump. Even Al Franken, Ms Griffin's friend and colleague, condemned the act. EVERYONE did, save for a few true loony nut jobs on the Left. You one of them ?
Frankly, don't care.
Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen
I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.
" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
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Another country heard from.
Then, if you don't give a fuck, why even comment on Kathy Griffin's stupid human trick. You guys really must love cherries.
SGG
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I kind of ignored the whole Portland thing myself because I don't see how it has anything to do with me at all either.
Since I don't suffer from any White Guilt and have discussed the reasons why on other threads, I'm certainly not going to apologize for his behavior because he's an idiot who happens to be white.
He's just some crazy dude that deserves whatever he gets now, which should be a life in prison or the death penalty depending on the law there.
Why would it be my job to condemn his behavior?
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Another country heard from.
Then, if you don't give a fuck, why even comment on Kathy Griffin's stupid human trick. You guys really must love cherries.
I didn't say I don't give a fuck. It sucks. People get murdered every day. A lot of people. That sucks.
This murder is no more or less important than any of the other murders that happened on that day. The only reason that it got media attention was the same reason that you gave it more attention. It was used for political purposes.
Why do you feel the need for me to have to condemn it?
When I demand that Muslims condemn a terror attack that was carried out by another Muslim it is because they practice the same faith. I would expect a Black Muslim or a White Muslim to condemn that attack, just as well as a Brown Muslim.
I know nothing of this man. I doubt we share any religious beliefs as I'm largely undecided and unconfirmed in that regard. Auraptor says that he didn't like Trump or Hillary and was a Bernie supporter. I didn't read up on him, so I don't know that for a fact.
What else is there that links me to him, other than the fact that he's White? The fact that he's American? I'm sure as fuck not going to feel obligated to condemn the murders for either of those reasons.
Murder is bad. If it makes you happy I'll say that murder is bad. I don't know what else you expect from me on the subject.
What you're presenting here is the textbook definition of a false equivalency.
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Fucking typical response and one of the main reasons I "brought you in" to this.
Have the balls to call me a lefty, if that's what you want. And since everyone has to have a label, call me whatever..............
Because I don't give a FUCK!
SGG
You don't give a fuck about the facts. Yes, I see that. But what I don't see is why you're getting angry and all name cally.

Don't be mad, brah.
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Looks like she's holding a press conference with her lawyer...
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In a press announcement she posted on Twitter, Bloom said that she and Griffin will “explain the true motivation behind the image, and respond to the bullying from the Trump family she has endured.”
LOL...
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Originally posted by G:
Griffin and Bloom believe the comedian has received harsher backlash because she is female.
"This is a woman thing," Griffin said.
LOL, this just keeps getting better.
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To tell you the truth, I find Kathy to be a untalented, humorless 'comedienne', who's looking to boost her career, such as it is, by creating controversy and making herself a martyr.
As for implied threats or threats against a president by a media figure, Ted Nugent shows up on the top of a google search. https://thinkprogress.org/trump-hosts-ted-nugent-white-house-c0da4b94c
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So it's been going on, on BOTH sides, for a while.
Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, this was the total of Trump's response: "Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!" I certainly don't see a threat there, Griffin's claims notwithstanding.
IMO, people should just stop giving Griffin all that pointless press. Just let her sink back into the obscurity from when she arose, already.
Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.
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Who me? Mad! Naaaaaaahhh!!!
That's just me before breakfast, all nice and gentle-like!
To reiterate: FACTS, we don't need no stinking FACTS!
SGG
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Originally posted by AURaptor:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Fucking typical response and one of the main reasons I "brought you in" to this.
Have the balls to call me a lefty, if that's what you want. And since everyone has to have a label, call me whatever..............
Because I don't give a FUCK!
SGG
You don't give a fuck about the facts. Yes, I see that. But what I don't see is why you're getting angry and all name cally.
Don't be mad, brah.
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Do you really mean to say you don't care about facts? ... because that's seeming pretty irrational.
Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.
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True, two talentless, humorless television hacks given waaaaay too much time and coverage. I say they should face the Gulag!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
To tell you the truth, I find Kathy to be a untalented, humorless 'comedienne', who's looking to boost her career, such as it is, by creating controversy and making herself a martyr.
As for implied threats or threats against a president by a media figure, Ted Nugent shows up on the top of a google search. https://thinkprogress.org/trump-hosts-ted-nugent-white-house-c0da4b94c
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So it's been going on, on BOTH sides, for a while.
Meanwhile, as far as I can tell, this was the total of Trump's response: "Kathy Griffin should be ashamed of herself. My children, especially my 11 year old son, Barron, are having a hard time with this. Sick!" I certainly don't see a threat there, Griffin's claims notwithstanding.
IMO, people should just stop giving Griffin all that pointless press. Just let her sink back into the obscurity from when she arose, already.
Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.
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Boy oh boy, you never stop do you?
SGG
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Do you really mean to say you don't care about facts? ... because that's seeming pretty irrational.
Originally posted by G: "I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago." G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.
You have a very treasonous view of how justice in the US should work, THUGGER. In fact, you have many other treasonous views as well. You hate the election process and want to void it.
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Quote:Apparently, it's not working well. She's generating exposure farther than her original audience, but they don't seem to like her too well. More "blowback" than "echo". I think her career boosting move backfired. In the end, she'll wind up back with the people who would have listened to her anyway, but nobody else. I mean, she already had CNN exposure; now she even going to lose that. This "blip" versus that "lost exposure" will probably cancel out, except that her potential audience will have changed status from "naive" to "hate her", and she'll be on file somewhere in the NSA database.
To tell you the truth, I find Kathy to be a untalented, humorless 'comedienne', who's looking to boost her career, such as it is, by creating controversy and making herself a martyr. - KIKI
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
I could watch that all day long. That is fuuuuuunnnnneeee!
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Originally posted by Riverlove:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
I could watch that all day long. That is fuuuuuunnnnneeee!
That would be something. The most anybody has been able to look at Kathy Griffin in a single sitting by a factor of 100. You should call Guinness Book and have them watch you do it.
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She'd be awful easy to spot, were she to carry out her mission of beheading Trump. Although why would she do that? Both he and the world wouldn't miss anything since he doesn't have a brain (sung to the tune of "If I Only Had a Brain" from the Wizrd of Oz).
Now that's funny!!!
"Oh I could tell ya why the ocean's close to the shore,
I could think of things I never thunk before,
And then I'd sit...." and my brains would splatter all over the yellow brick road.
Poor Trump. Everybody makes fun of him, because he doesn't have a brain. All straw!
SGG
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Apparently, it's not working well. She's generating exposure farther than her original audience, but they don't seem to like her too well. More "blowback" than "echo". I think her career boosting move backfired. In the end, she'll wind up back with the people who would have listened to her anyway, but nobody else. I mean, she already had CNN exposure; now she even going to lose that. This "blip" versus that "lost exposure" will probably cancel out, except that her potential audience will have changed status from "naive" to "hate her", and she'll be on file somewhere in the NSA database.
To tell you the truth, I find Kathy to be a untalented, humorless 'comedienne', who's looking to boost her career, such as it is, by creating controversy and making herself a martyr. - KIKI
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Unbelievable! I'll answer shortly, I need a breather.
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Another country heard from.
Then, if you don't give a fuck, why even comment on Kathy Griffin's stupid human trick. You guys really must love cherries.
I didn't say I don't give a fuck. It sucks. People get murdered every day. A lot of people. That sucks.
This murder is no more or less important than any of the other murders that happened on that day. The only reason that it got media attention was the same reason that you gave it more attention. It was used for political purposes.
Why do you feel the need for me to have to condemn it?
When I demand that Muslims condemn a terror attack that was carried out by another Muslim it is because they practice the same faith. I would expect a Black Muslim or a White Muslim to condemn that attack, just as well as a Brown Muslim.
I know nothing of this man. I doubt we share any religious beliefs as I'm largely undecided and unconfirmed in that regard. Auraptor says that he didn't like Trump or Hillary and was a Bernie supporter. I didn't read up on him, so I don't know that for a fact.
What else is there that links me to him, other than the fact that he's White? The fact that he's American? I'm sure as fuck not going to feel obligated to condemn the murders for either of those reasons.
Murder is bad. If it makes you happy I'll say that murder is bad. I don't know what else you expect from me on the subject.
What you're presenting here is the textbook definition of a false equivalency.
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Okay I think I will answer your post now regarding this whole Kathy Griffin "joke"
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People get murdered every day. A lot of people. That sucks.
It's true, there are countless murders in this country that we don't comment on. The murder is not the issue, and it's not the reason I posted my response.
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The only reason that it got media attention was the same reason that you gave it more attention. It was used for political purposes.
The "news" outlets brought it up because it was news. Me, I brought it up because it was a white man that killed two other whites who were standing up to this maniac
"bully" in the name of freedom; this country's freedom. Defending a couple of young women who happened to be black. One was wearing a hajib. This fucking idiot was flexing his "shit for brains" muscle and showing his "superior" behavior by looking to intimidate them. This is white on white crime, for one thing.
How that becomes political? Well, you need to explain that to me. My reason was far more simple. You and others complained more about a stupid joke being posted about a stupid man - Trump, than you did about a senseless killing. Okay, you don't care about a man killing two heroic men coming to the aid of a fellow human. That is the real tragedy. Anyway, that's why I posted my response. Trump, in this case, was a mere minor distraction. You don't care, I get it. I just irks me that more attention was given to the stupidity of a stupid posting than to something truly important. That's all!
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Why do you feel the need for me to have to condemn it?
If I gave you that impression, it wasn't my intention. I was merely trying to point out the absurdity and ironic nature of the alt-right's response to a childish prank. Tasteless as it was, it's nothing compared to the loss of human life, and more so because of the senselessness of it. Over skin color! This big, burly strong man was threatened by two petite women. Pathetic!
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When I demand that Muslims condemn a terror attack that was carried out by another Muslim it is because they practice the same faith. I would expect a Black Muslim or a White Muslim to condemn that attack, just as well as a Brown Muslim.
Now here's where it gets a little weird for me. So, what you want is for all Muslims, regardless of skin color, condemn acts of violence by their fellow Muslims. Dude, you just finished telling me the opposite in the above paragraph.
That I have no right (and you are right about that) to tell you what to do (even though I did not do that). But what you do want is for the Muslims to do as you say, but not as you do.
More to come.....
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I got my ass kicked and was stabbed in the back by 4 guys for standing up for a woman when I was 19. I didn't die, but I got the ass kicking of my life and spent the night in the hospital after having a catheter stuck up my pee-hole and down my nose, and had an IV bag dumped into a cut they made in my belly to see if I was bleeding internally.
Nobody called me a hero. Nobody gave a shit.
Shit happens.
Next....
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Now here's where it gets a little weird for me. So, what you want is for all Muslims, regardless of skin color, condemn acts of violence by their fellow Muslims. Dude, you just finished telling me the opposite in the above paragraph.
That I have no right (and you are right about that) to tell you what to do (even though I did not do that). But what you do want is for the Muslims to do as you say, but not as you do.
No. It's a lot different.
One of the guys who put me in the hospital was black. One was mexican. Two were white. I don't expect blacks and mexicans to apologize to me for the actions of those idiots. Hell... It's just as much my fault as it was theirs really. I should have known my situation and not gotten involved. There was really no other way that could have ended except for me actually being murdered.
I don't expect every single Muslim person to come out and say something about these types of incidents. How would you even "catalog" something like that. There are a lot of them.
What I DO expect is for every Muslim LEADER to condemn any attacks made by any Muslims, regardless of their race.
Islam is a ideology of INTOLERANCE and HATE.
2 million of them here in the USA might not be extremists, but it only took 19 of them to bring the country to its knees in 2001.
People like that need to be shamed by their own. They need to be outcasts. Future possible terrorists for the Muslim cause need to know ahead of time that this is not acceptable.
I view any religion as a cult, really. They are the only cult out there as massive as they are that is out there constantly murdering people. What is wrong with you and people like you that you keep defending them?
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I view any religion as a cult, really.
I'm too sleepy to reply to the whole post.
But I like that one line. :)
Religion -vs- Philosophy
Philosophy is generally a good thing.
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Okay, I'm done.
SGG
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I got my ass kicked and was stabbed in the back by 4 guys for standing up for a woman when I was 19. I didn't die, but I got the ass kicking of my life and spent the night in the hospital after having a catheter stuck up my pee-hole and down my nose, and had an IV bag dumped into a cut they made in my belly to see if I was bleeding internally.
Nobody called me a hero. Nobody gave a shit.
Shit happens.
Next....
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I have seen Muslim leaders here in this country condemn the violence perpetrated by those claiming to be Islamic. But that's me. In my neighborhood there is a mosque that has been here for decades, and so far no one has been killed by any of it's members. They live and work in the community, they have been around a long time and nothing untoward has ever happened.
Except for one thing: a Muslim cleric was stabbed in the back in a neighborhood not far from my area. He was walking to his home from "services" minding his own business.
You say that you haven't seen Islamic leaders condemn violence, I take you at your word.
SGG
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Now here's where it gets a little weird for me. So, what you want is for all Muslims, regardless of skin color, condemn acts of violence by their fellow Muslims. Dude, you just finished telling me the opposite in the above paragraph.
That I have no right (and you are right about that) to tell you what to do (even though I did not do that). But what you do want is for the Muslims to do as you say, but not as you do.
No. It's a lot different.
One of the guys who put me in the hospital was black. One was mexican. Two were white. I don't expect blacks and mexicans to apologize to me for the actions of those idiots. Hell... It's just as much my fault as it was theirs really. I should have known my situation and not gotten involved. There was really no other way that could have ended except for me actually being murdered.
I don't expect every single Muslim person to come out and say something about these types of incidents. How would you even "catalog" something like that. There are a lot of them.
What I DO expect is for every Muslim LEADER to condemn any attacks made by any Muslims, regardless of their race.
Islam is a ideology of INTOLERANCE and HATE.
2 million of them here in the USA might not be extremists, but it only took 19 of them to bring the country to its knees in 2001.
People like that need to be shamed by their own. They need to be outcasts. Future possible terrorists for the Muslim cause need to know ahead of time that this is not acceptable.
I view any religion as a cult, really. They are the only cult out there as massive as they are that is out there constantly murdering people. What is wrong with you and people like you that you keep defending them?
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The ad Hillary should have run.
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I have seen Muslim leaders here in this country condemn the violence perpetrated by those claiming to be Islamic. But that's me. In my neighborhood there is a mosque that has been here for decades, and so far no one has been killed by any of it's members. They live and work in the community, they have been around a long time and nothing untoward has ever happened.
Except for one thing: a Muslim cleric was stabbed in the back in a neighborhood not far from my area. He was walking to his home from "services" minding his own business.
You say that you haven't seen Islamic leaders condemn violence, I take you at your word.
I certainly don't condone violence such as what happened to the Muslim Cleric by you. I believe in the non-aggression principal. If you don't know what that means, it's essentially pacifism with the caveat that you can use violence if you, your family/friends or your property is being threatened by somebody else.
I blame that death on more than the individual who dealt it though. I don't know if it is Muslim leaders that aren't speaking out against terrorist attacks by Muslims or the MSM is not reporting it, but there is some blame to be had at their feet as well.
To most of us, Islam seems to be nothing more than an ideology of hate and intolerance. The people move to other countries by the 10s of thousands and set up their own communities and rarely integrate with the people who live there. They preach sharia law, and call anyone who is not a Muslim an infidel and an enemy of their religion. They make women practically their slaves and throw gays off of buildings in their home countries. They make videos chopping of the heads of non-believers. There has been 3 gruesome terror attacks in the UK in the last 3 months.
No. I don't agree with the murder of that Cleric. But there will likely be more of that to come as tensions rise if the leaders of Islam don't come out and condemn those acts and start disciplining their own who even speak of committing violence upon others in the name of their God.
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http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/05/europe/imams-london-burial/index.htm
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More than 130 British imams refuse to bury London attackers
Imams and religious leaders from across the country and a range of schools of thought have come together to issue a public statement condemning the recent terror attack in London and conveying their pain at the suffering of the victims and their families.
In an unprecedented move, they have not only refused to perform the traditional Islamic prayer for the terrorist – a ritual that is normally performed for every Muslim regardless of their actions – but also have called on others to do the same. They said:
“Consequently, and in light of other such ethical principles which are quintessential to Islam, we will not perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer over the perpetrators and we also urge fellow imams and religious authorities to withdraw such a privilege. This is because such indefensible actions are completely at odds with the lofty teachings of Islam.”
For the full statement and list of signatories, see below.
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Muslim Imams and religious leaders condemn the Manchester and London terror atrocities and urge fellow Imams to refuse to perform Islamic funeral prayers for the terrorists
“We, as Muslim Imams and religious leaders, condemn the recent terror attacks in Manchester and London in the strongest terms possible. Coming from a range of backgrounds, and from across the UK; feeling the pain the rest of the nation feels, we have come together to express our shock and utter disgust at these cold-blooded murders.
We are deeply hurt that a spate of terror attacks have been committed in our country once more by murderers who seek to gain religious legitimacy for their actions. We seek to clarify that their reprehensible actions have neither legitimacy nor our sympathy.
Though at no time is it acceptable, that such ruthless violence was perpetrated during the season of Ramadan, in which Muslims worldwide focus on pious devotion, prayer, charity and the cultivation of good character, demonstrates how utterly misguided and distant the terrorists are from our faith and the contempt which they hold for its values.
Alongside our friends and neighbours, we mourn this attack on our home, society and people, and feel pain for the suffering of the victims and their families. We pray to God that the perpetrators be judged in accordance with the gravity of their crimes in the hereafter. Their acts and wilful dismissal of our religious principles alienates them from any association with our community for whom the inviolability of every human life is the founding principle (Q.5:32).
Consequently, and in light of other such ethical principles which are quintessential to Islam, we will not perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the perpetrators and we also urge fellow imams and religious authorities to withdraw such a privilege. This is because such indefensible actions are completely at odds with the lofty teachings of Islam.
These vile murderers seek to divide our society and instil fear; we will ensure they fail. We implore everyone to unite: we are one community. In the face of such dastardly cowardice, unlike the terrorists, we must uphold love and compassion.
Such criminals defile the name of our religion and of our Prophet, who was sent to be a mercy to all creation.
We commend our police and emergency services – with whom we stand shoulder to shoulder – for their rapid response, arriving at the scenes while risking their own lives to protect the victims and public. Their response exemplifies the courage, humanity and honour we must exhibit in such difficult times.
We pray for peace and unity, and for all the victims of terror both at home and across the globe, who are targeted, irrespective of their faith.”
1. Dr Timothy Winter, University of Cambridge
2. Imam Yunus Dudhwala, Head of Chaplaincy & Bereavement, Barts Health NHS Trust
3. Dr Abul Kalam Azad, Director General, Muslim Family Institute (MFI)
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That's a great start. This should be playing on every single television all over the globe.
Can anybody watching the news on either CNN/MSNBC and FOX tell me how much coverage this is getting?
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I will keep an eye out for this, but I agree with Brenda, this is good to see.
I guess this is what you've been looking for Six. Of course, we don't want these guys to be targeted by ISIS either, but this is the risk you take for freedom of religion.
SGG
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That's a great start. This should be playing on every single television all over the globe.
Can anybody watching the news on either CNN/MSNBC and FOX tell me how much coverage this is getting?
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I will keep an eye out for this, but I agree with Brenda, this is good to see.
I guess this is what you've been looking for Six. Of course, we don't want these guys to be targeted by ISIS either, but this is the risk you take for freedom of religion.
I haven't bought into the anti-Trump stuff, especially the Russia narrative, but I haven't really said much good stuff about him either.
Nobody is going to want to admit it, but the fact that Obama isn't in office anymore was probably a large catalyst for this action. There is a renewed pushback against Islam now that Brexit and Trump happened, and that Le Pen came as close to winning France as she did, and the Populist movement is growing in Europe.
6 months ago our President wouldn't even say the word Terrorism. They got a free pass both in the U.S. and in Europe.
In the end, I think the changes happening now are going to be good for everybody in the long run.
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Kathy Griffin Does It Again, Posts Vile Image Of Jack Smith Holding Donald Trump’s Severed Head On Instagram
https://magaconservatives.com/kathy-griffin-does-it-again-posts-vile-i
mage-of-jack-smith-holding-donald-trumps-severed-head-on-instagram/
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Kathy who?
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