Is Trump Nuts?

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There's no need for a wall if you don't give free shit away and allow them to send it back home. No free healthcare, no welfare and no education unless you came here legally. No more anchor babies. Don't send the ones here already home. Set a date 1 year from now. That will give them 3 months to create one and then never again. Don't allow any wire transfers to Mexico unless you have an established bank account that only a citizen could get.

I have changed my mind about the wall. It's stupid.

Do that other shit and the only people who will want to come here are people who want to work.

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www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/04/16/former_us_ambassador_to_sou
th_korea_trump_trying_to_out-north_korea_the_north_koreans.html

CHRISTOPHER HILL, FMR. U.S. AMBASSADOR TO SOUTH KOREA: Well, I think Trump is trying to out-North Koreans the North Koreans. So let's see if that works. Certainly it makes people nervous when they're not quite sure what he means by it. And, you know, great powers can't really bluff.

So when you talk in those terms, you have got to be prepared to back it up. And I guess that's what worries people the most.

That said, I certainly appreciate the fact that he has understood this is a major issue. I mean, if I were President Trump, I wouldn't want to go before the American people in 2020 and say, well, you know, we gave it the junior college try and we decided there is nothing we can do about this...

I think it is -- we have come to a moment where this is kind of different from the past. First of all, they have had over 25 missile tests. They're working on a whole new generation of missiles. Of course, one of them failed in the last 24 hours. But that doesn't mean they'll try again.

So it's a new generation of missiles. And clearly, they're working on a warhead design for nuclear devices. So this is, I think, a very serious matter. And it's coming down the tracks.

And people often take the view, well, somehow, this is all about their regime survival. This is how they'll survive being a nuclear weapons country. Actually, I think they're more ambitious about it. They see this as a means to somehow decouple the U.S. from its ally in South Korea, from its ally in Japan, and somehow create a situation whereby, at least in theory, holding the U.S. at risk, the U.S. would be less willing to participate in a conflict on the Korean Peninsula, were it to come to that.

So they have ambitious plans for this. And I think we need to be very clear about the need to stop them. And I'm particularly discouraged when I hear people talking about, well, maybe we can freeze their tests in return for freezing our exercises with South Korea.

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Originally posted by 6STRINGJOKER:
There's no need for a wall if you don't give free shit away and allow them to send it back home. No free healthcare, no welfare and no education unless you came here legally. No more anchor babies. Don't send the ones here already home. Set a date 1 year from now. That will give them 3 months to create one and then never again. Don't allow any wire transfers to Mexico unless you have an established bank account that only a citizen could get.

I have changed my mind about the wall. It's stupid.

Do that other shit and the only people who will want to come here are people who want to work.

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You are worried about anchor babies. You will see that Republicans writing the 14th Amendment were confused about anchor babies back in 1866 if you check the debate about the Citizenship Clause. Only a very few in Congress correctly understood what they voted for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_Clause

You wrote: "Don't allow any wire transfers to Mexico unless you have an established bank account that only a citizen could get." That just means that American citizens will become intermediaries between banks in Mexico and illegal Mexicans. They will start businesses of making wire transfers to a third country and then to Mexico and take a fat fee from the illegals for doing it, unless that is what you really want. Forget wire transfers. Maybe Americans will smuggle tons and tons of cash to Mexico, kind of like the drug cartels are already doing with drugs going in the other direction.

If you really want to stop illegals from any country, not just Mexico, working in the USA, jail their bosses. Throw a few thousand bosses in jail every year and the rest will get the message. I believe the Republican Party won't be doing that even though there are already laws that could be much better enforced.
www.fairus.org/issue/employer-sanctions
www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/legal-pitfalls-hiring-undocumented-imm
igrants.html

Really good jobs that US Citizens want, but can't have because of illegal aliens:
www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/04/03/three-waste-management-bosses-sente
nced-illegal-alien-hires-encouraging-id-theft/

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Trump’s big problem is he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

At least it’s one of his problems. This became clear when he said he realized dealing with North Korea was “not so easy” after 10 minutes with the Chinese president.

Dealing with complicated problems is an occupational hazard faced by outsiders in all fields — and there’s never been a president who is more of an outsider. Consequently, a lot of his assertions about critical matters of public concern are based on ... nothing at all. As president, he is fitfully coming into contact with concrete policy choices, actual information, and well-informed people. And it’s making a difference.

That’s the dynamic behind many of this spring’s jarring policy reversals on backing out of NATO, Chinese currency manipulation, and relations with Russia.

And to the extent that Trump is replacing ignorance with information and bad policy with good policy, it deserves to be celebrated rather than mocked. But the wild swings themselves are disturbing and have consequences. And Trump’s actual habit of failing to obtain sound information don’t appear to have changed. That leaves him easily manipulated, like when Paul Ryan convinced him Republicans had to do health care reform before tax reform. As his equal-opportunity openness to both new information and fake “information” become clearer to all interested parties, the race will be on to manipulate the president and incite further chaos in American public policy.

The fact that it keeps happening suggests Trump has not really internalized the key lesson.

Peter Baker of the New York Times reports that only after he publicly accused Mr. Obama of having wiretapped his telephones last year did Trump ask aides how the system of obtaining eavesdropping warrants from a special foreign intelligence court worked.

One particularly chilling example of Trump’s casualness about information gathering is that Michael Crowley and Josh Dawsey report he was asking aides for information about why Assad would use banned chemical weapons only after American Tomahawk missiles had destroyed Syrian military targets. The shocking truth is that it’s probably Trump’s own rhetoric about Syria in particular and chemical weapons in general that led Assad to think there would be no consequences for violating his 2013 agreement.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/17/15304212/trump-ignorant

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Originally posted by second:
If you really want to stop illegals from any country, not just Mexico, working in the USA, jail their bosses. Throw a few thousand bosses in jail every year and the rest will get the message.

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Yup. Do that too.

And throw out a few elected officials creating sanctuary cities for illegals too.

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I believe the Republican Party won't be doing that even though there are already laws that could be much better enforced.

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Why does it always come down to that with you? 8 years of Obama and it didn't happen. It would never have happened with him, and you know that. At least now there might be a chance.

The wall is just symbolic. It's pointless.

How do we fund the preventative measures that will work?


There is that 1.6 billion in "Wall Money" still sitting there since the Bush administration for starters. We could also end the "war" on drugs and re-direct some of the DEA to this instead of outright firing all of them too.

And once the jails are being emptied of their free prison labor for non violent "criminals" who did nothing but provide a service that shouldn't have been illegal in the first place you'll have plenty of space for actual criminals. The added bonus is that when jobs aren't being done for virtually free with the prison labor, wages in general might actually see a bump too.

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Great post SECOND. I enjoyed reading it, but times are a troubling.

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Originally posted by second:
www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/04/16/former_us_ambassador_to_sou
th_korea_trump_trying_to_out-north_korea_the_north_koreans.html

CHRISTOPHER HILL, FMR. U.S. AMBASSADOR TO SOUTH KOREA: Well, I think Trump is trying to out-North Koreans the North Koreans. So let's see if that works. Certainly it makes people nervous when they're not quite sure what he means by it. And, you know, great powers can't really bluff.

So when you talk in those terms, you have got to be prepared to back it up. And I guess that's what worries people the most.

That said, I certainly appreciate the fact that he has understood this is a major issue. I mean, if I were President Trump, I wouldn't want to go before the American people in 2020 and say, well, you know, we gave it the junior college try and we decided there is nothing we can do about this...

I think it is -- we have come to a moment where this is kind of different from the past. First of all, they have had over 25 missile tests. They're working on a whole new generation of missiles. Of course, one of them failed in the last 24 hours. But that doesn't mean they'll try again.

So it's a new generation of missiles. And clearly, they're working on a warhead design for nuclear devices. So this is, I think, a very serious matter. And it's coming down the tracks.

And people often take the view, well, somehow, this is all about their regime survival. This is how they'll survive being a nuclear weapons country. Actually, I think they're more ambitious about it. They see this as a means to somehow decouple the U.S. from its ally in South Korea, from its ally in Japan, and somehow create a situation whereby, at least in theory, holding the U.S. at risk, the U.S. would be less willing to participate in a conflict on the Korean Peninsula, were it to come to that.

So they have ambitious plans for this. And I think we need to be very clear about the need to stop them. And I'm particularly discouraged when I hear people talking about, well, maybe we can freeze their tests in return for freezing our exercises with South Korea.

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