Is Trump Nuts?

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SIGNYM

Sunday, April 23, 2017 5:17 AM

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You guys ARE the war machine.- KIKI

Agreed.- SIX

But certainly will not be addressed by any self-respecting Democrat/ liberal.

Hey, I remember back to the Vietnam war days, and the Dems used to be anti-war. What the hell happened???

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.

6STRINGJOKER

Sunday, April 23, 2017 5:34 AM

Obama made war cool again.

I remember being on the side of most Democrats in here back when GWB was president. I was one of his loudest detractors for that and the economy and especially the Patriot Act.

lol... now I'm a Republican or a Nazi or a Communist or whatever incompatible names they throw out depending on their mood that day.

1KIKI

Sunday, April 23, 2017 6:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

I remember being on the side of most Democrats in here back when GWB was president. I was one of his loudest detractors for that and the economy and especially the Patriot Act.

lol... now I'm a Republican or a Nazi or a Communist or whatever incompatible names they throw out depending on their mood that day.

I'm in the same position.

Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

JO753

Sunday, April 23, 2017 2:54 PM

The latest departure frum reality:

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http://www.7532020.com

SECOND

Sunday, April 23, 2017 7:34 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SECOND

You guys ARE the war machine.

Care to address that?

I am not happy to address that. I find most of my neighbors' in Texas attitude about war to be unrealistic. They imagine they know what it is without actually having killed anyone, like on Firefly every other episode. Come to think of it, Nathan Fillion and Summer Glau have not actually killed anyone, although they have done it many times on TV. We could ask Nathan and Summer what Mal, Castle, River and Cameron the Terminator's opinion was, but what do the actors really know? Nothing. Here is my informed opinion:

Not all voters here in Texas are Republican, but the majority are. Those voters want “Strong Defense”. What they mean by “Strong” is to constantly threaten foreign enemies and occasionally go to war without too many American dead. You can be certain most Texans won't be personally going to war. Not every last one of them wants “Strong Defense”, but it is knee-jerk with most because there really is no risk for their skin.

The minority voters, the Democrats, also want “Strong Defense”. Not all of them, but more than enough to make any Democratic politician feel safe when voting a big budget for the Dept. of Defense and the CIA and the NSA and . . . There is not much anti-war sentiment in Congress or Texas. If there is a state or Senator that is anti-war, shout out the names! Provide proof. Where is the Sen. George McGovern for this century?

Is there a group of voters declaring they will kill, next election, their Congressman's chances of winning if he votes for a “Strong Defense” budget? It is imaginable yet absurd to think there is a political group defending their anti-war principles with violence, like the example of anti-abortionists who have killed doctors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

The armed forces volunteered to kill for the USA. That is not the same as die for the USA because the wars are unsymmetrical with a kill ratio between enemy dead/wounded and USA dead/wounded of ten, twenty, or a hundred, depending on where and when. You won’t find much anti-war sentiment in the Army. Anybody remember Chelsea Manning? I’m not even sure about Manning being anti-war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning#Military_service

The American Generals and Admirals say they are ready for war all the time. Luckily for the USA, the upper echelons are aware of the limitations of “Strong Defense”. Some of them have read about the Vietnam War and even the first Korean War. They know it is better for their careers (followed by their retirement in their early fifties) if they don’t leap into most opportunities for war.

The American Generals and Admirals are protecting us from our worst impulses to go to a major war by giving us minor wars to keep us distracted. If the military isn’t killing somebody every month and making threats every week the taxpayers might think 90% of the money for a “Strong Defense” is being wasted. Congress and Trump do not want them to start thinking carefully or clearly on this subject or any other, do they?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

6STRINGJOKER

Monday, April 24, 2017 12:19 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Congress and Trump do not want them to start thinking carefully or clearly on this subject or any other, do they?

How is that any different than Congress and Obama? How would it have been any different than Congress and Clinton?

Again, I agree with a lot of what you said here, but your problem is that you believe that Democrats are somehow better or have the higher moral ground.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, April 24, 2017 2:27 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 1kiki:
SECOND

You guys ARE the war machine.

Care to address that?
I am not happy to address that. I find most of my neighbors' in Texas attitude about war to be unrealistic. They imagine they know what it is without actually having killed anyone, like on Firefly every other episode. Come to think of it, Nathan Fillion and Summer Glau have not actually killed anyone, although they have done it many times on TV. We could ask Nathan and Summer what Mal, Castle, River and Cameron the Terminator's opinion was, but what do the actors really know? Nothing. Here is my informed opinion:

Not all voters here in Texas are Republican, but the majority are. Those voters want “Strong Defense”. What they mean by “Strong” is to constantly threaten foreign enemies and occasionally go to war without too many American dead. You can be certain most Texans won't be personally going to war. Not every last one of them wants “Strong Defense”, but it is knee-jerk with most because there really is no risk for their skin.

The minority voters, the Democrats, also want “Strong Defense”. Not all of them, but more than enough to make any Democratic politician feel safe when voting a big budget for the Dept. of Defense and the CIA and the NSA and . . . There is not much anti-war sentiment in Congress or Texas. If there is a state or Senator that is anti-war, shout out the names! Provide proof. Where is the Sen. George McGovern for this century?

Is there a group of voters declaring they will kill, next election, their Congressman's chances of winning if he votes for a “Strong Defense” budget? It is imaginable yet absurd to think there is a political group defending their anti-war principles with violence, like the example of anti-abortionists who have killed doctors. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

The armed forces volunteered to kill for the USA. That is not the same as die for the USA because the wars are unsymmetrical with a kill ratio between enemy dead/wounded and USA dead/wounded of ten, twenty, or a hundred, depending on where and when. You won’t find much anti-war sentiment in the Army. Anybody remember Chelsea Manning? I’m not even sure about Manning being anti-war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning#Military_service

The American Generals and Admirals say they are ready for war all the time. Luckily for the USA, the upper echelons are aware of the limitations of “Strong Defense”. Some of them have read about the Vietnam War and even the first Korean War. They know it is better for their careers (followed by their retirement in their early fifties) if they don’t leap into most opportunities for war.

The American Generals and Admirals are protecting us from our worst impulses to go to a major war by giving us minor wars to keep us distracted. If the military isn’t killing somebody every month and making threats every week the taxpayers might think 90% of the money for a “Strong Defense” is being wasted. Congress and Trump do not want them to start thinking carefully or clearly on this subject or any other, do they?

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

I have heard said that almost all General Officers with experience (or a clue) hate war.
If names are needed, I'm fair certain that Louis Burwell Puller Sr. and Dwight David Eisenhower have numerous quotes attributed to them which assert this PoV. Possibly also A.A. Vandegrift. I'm not sure about MacArthur.

Your anecdotes may differ, but most who desire a "strong Defense/military" are following the adage Talk Softly and Carry a BIG STICK. The military is a Big Stick which harkens our enemies to listen carefully when we talk about them keeping their peace, drawing inside their lines, not stepping out of bounds (except when anti-defense idjits like Obama, Clinton, or Carter are elected) - and this is what gives the

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, April 24, 2017 2:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
You guys ARE the war machine.- KIKI

Agreed.- SIX

But certainly will not be addressed by any self-respecting Democrat/ liberal.

Hey, I remember back to the Vietnam war days, and the Dems used to be anti-war. What the hell happened???

How does your memory reconcile LBJ starting, prolonging, ensuring the loss of the Vietnam War? Plus all of his Libtard supporters?
Or maybe how Nixon ended the War?

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Monday, April 24, 2017 2:37 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:
The latest departure frum reality:

Hey there. You managed to swerve into the truth - Kimmel is always a departure from reality.

SECOND

Monday, April 24, 2017 6:06 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

How does your memory reconcile LBJ starting, prolonging, ensuring the loss of the Vietnam War? Plus all of his Libtard supporters?
Or maybe how Nixon ended the War?

LBJ did not run for another term because he did not have Libtard supporters and he knew it was because of the way he ran his Vietnam War. The Fall of Saigon was 30 April 1975. The Fall of Nixon was 8 Aug 1974. I'm not seeing how Nixon can get any credit for ending his version of the Vietnam War, since the President was Ford, Nixon's V.P. , when the USA was defeated.

About the dumb-ass LBJ, as stupid a war leader as the other Texan, Bush II: You might be unaware that Texas is very pro-war. It has been that way for two hundred years, never changing. Once LBJ got into the Vietnam War, he couldn't back out because he was an overly sensitive politician who could not tolerate looking bad to his fellow Texans. And Republicans such as Barry Goldwater would call him weak on Communism and the usual mindlessness you get from the GOP. LBJ was not courageous, not wise, but definitely Texan. He didn't even confront Nixon, when he should have, over Vietnam : www.nytimes.com/2016/12/31/opinion/sunday/nixons-vietnam-treachery.htm
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www.history.com/speeches/lyndon-johnson-expresses-doubts-about-vietnam
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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