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How Safe is Canada

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JASONZZZ

Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:22 PM

Look, you need to calm down and recognize your problem. It started when you misconstrued what was said and felt the need to randomly lump my name in your lame commentary. Your first attack was the mistaken presumption that I was making some sort of anal attack on whatever your icon of institution is. I never did, next time, ask and check for understanding before you randomly strike out. If anything, you have demonstrated the idiocy that betrays our American image. Being all cowboy about what you are doing, shooting off your guns, "dead or alive", "gonna go out there and wrastle me up some cattle" mentality is the classic hallmark and you've provided the perfect image of that. Thanks, no thanks.

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In fact the barf they are spouting as opinions is just downright embarrassing to this American.

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Dear Ass-es-Wip-es:

thanks for the Summary, I can read very well; but apparently you can not. Go back and read whereever you thought I started to turn the argument ugly.

It turned ugly right when you said;

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

May be you wanna stop typing on that computer and using that internet.

How about stop using this website altogether?

It's all American stuff that you hate so much completely and indiscriminately.

Your exact words. Now, I've brought it, you defend what you said. You're real good at opening your big fat mouth, now use it to refute what you've already said.

Yes, it is. But you made the wrong interpretation. You could have checked before you just shot from the hip. You commited that irreversible error of running up to me in the schoolyard and giving me a wedgie. After that, it's all out mud-slinging.

Those phrases that I typed there offer examples of what things "American" that are found to be fairly essential in accomplishing the task at hand and in some instances, everyday living. I offered glimpses into the absurdity of making the statement that all things American have now turned evil and everyone are washing their hands of it by "running to Canada". I make a claim that, in fact, no such thing would happen.

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It never did. Where did you see me starting off a conversation about attacking Canada? I never did.

I never said you started talking about attacking Canada. I said;
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...with you chiming in and discussing root causes of conflict, blame and reward/punishment.
You see dear readers, Hitler called this "the big lie" demagogues love to use this. They take a confusing issue and misrepresent what someone else has said. Now, this doesn't work so well with written word, especially one that can be easily referrenced back to as a threaded debate like this.

Good, then since I wasn't attacking Canada or advocating the attack of Canada, but in fact, having a nice conversation all along discussing various things. I'll also ignore the rest of your commentary after having read it and now understand that it all spawned from your mistaken belief that I was trying to start a shooting war between Canada and the US - when all along I was just having a nice discussion.

You misread and misunderstood. That's ok, sometimes people do that. Next time, you can always double-check with me first. Now, There isn't anything else to talk about except for your apology. I'll accept it. Thanks, now let's get along in talking about real issues instead of continuing on with the misunderstanding.

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Go back and read it again. I have no stinkin' idea why you are using my name in your post. Stop trolling and provoking and go back to whatever thing you crawled from. Otherwise, don't interrupt the conversation

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HARDWARE

Saturday, November 6, 2004 4:49 PM

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

You misread and misunderstood. That's ok, sometimes people do that. Next time, you can always double-check with me first. Now, There isn't anything else to talk about except for your apology. I'll accept it. Thanks, now let's get along in talking about real issues instead of continuing on with the misunderstanding.

You fired the first shot asshole. You don't want to respect an opposing opinion, but want to act the injured party, fine. (see my previous post about the "big lie") You owe me an apology, I owe you nothing.

This is turning into a game of "who can get the last word in". Too bad for Jasonzzz that I can browse and post at work. Getting paid to kill fascist ideas is the best job going!

JASONZZZ

Saturday, November 6, 2004 5:50 PM

Well... we obviously agree on this "who fired the first shot" crap. I offer that you simply misread and misunderstood what I wrote. Let's just both be gracious and walk away nice & easy. I don't even really care where the mistake was made. No skin off my back either way. It's not the first time reasonable people have made mistakes before. I'm willing to let go and take it on sign on good faith that you made a mistake and we can both make up differences. Show me that true universal American or Canadian way of brotherhood and we can all go around and shake hands, smile, and toast a beer.

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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:

You misread and misunderstood. That's ok, sometimes people do that. Next time, you can always double-check with me first. Now, There isn't anything else to talk about except for your apology. I'll accept it. Thanks, now let's get along in talking about real issues instead of continuing on with the misunderstanding.

You fired the first shot asshole. You don't want to respect an opposing opinion, but want to act the injured party, fine. (see my previous post about the "big lie") You owe me an apology, I owe you nothing.

This is turning into a game of "who can get the last word in". Too bad for Jasonzzz that I can browse and post at work. Getting paid to kill fascist ideas is the best job going!

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SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, November 6, 2004 7:35 PM

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Originally posted by Hardware:

As a matter of fact since you three seem to be representing the flyover states of the inbred, misogynizing heartland I think you have validated the question asked in the beginning of this thread.

ROTF!!! Oh, keep it coming! You definitly have a way with words

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How safe is Canada? Not very, if only judging by the knuckle-dragging, chest-thumping behavior of you neanderthals.

Man, I'll say it again. You have a way with words

But, even *if* the US invaded Canada, the US just wouldn't be able to keep it. Winters cold here

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

GINOBIFFARONI

Saturday, November 6, 2004 9:16 PM

Even see this movie ?

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6302783968/104-2425388-4
491960?v=glance

Still makes me laugh

And if only we could draw support from all of our allies...

kick ass for sure

" Don't Blame Me I Voted For Kudos "

SIGMANUNKI

Saturday, November 6, 2004 9:32 PM

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:

Even see this movie ?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6302783968/104-2425388-4
491960?v=glance

Nope, but it's now on the list.

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And if only we could draw support from all of our allies...

kick ass for sure

Today has been the absolute best day for comedy that I've seen here. Thanks for adding to that

And I haven't forgot about our discussion about Canadian politics. Just haven't had the time to do the research I need before we start. I will get around to it soon though (my work-load has dropped off recently

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

BARNSTORMER

Monday, November 8, 2004 4:42 PM

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
" Why does he want to kill Americans??????
Oh yeah, because we just elected a republican president in a country he does'nt even belong to. "

Try reading the entire thread dipshit

We were discussing " How safe is Canada " from you looney American dipshits...

Ghoulman said something along the lines that we would all go along without a fight because we are nice Canadians

Well, we are not all nice Canadians. Many of us would fight instead of becoming part of your bullshit country.

I also said elect who you like, way I see it Kerry wasn't much better. Just keep it inside your borders... the majority of the planet wants that... maybe there should be a vote?

As for terrorism, what is that anyone against you ? Maybe you all need more time on the recieving end

" Looking for a place to happen, making stops along the way "

Wow, alots been said in this thread over the weekend huh?

Gino

A couple of points I'd like to make.....

First
I have no idea how you or anyone else could possible think that the U.S. would attack Canada.
Until this election period, and the political threads that have resulted from/about it, I have never doubted that Canada and the U.S. were friends. And now, after reading some of these vitriolic comments (ie "start shooting americans" , ect.) I have to say that I have not changed my mind in the least. I think the U.S. and Canada are allies and will always remain so.
No matter what you think and say in this moment of rage you seem to be going thru.

Second
I have great respect for anyone who will take up arms to protect their country that they believe in and love. That includes you.

Third
The U.S. was attacked, not by a nation state, but by terrorists. We then declared war on the terrorist and the nation states that actively support them. I would be very, very suprised (based upon your earlier posts concerning defending and fighting for your country) if you and your country would not have done the same if it was 3000 Canadians that died on Canadian soil using innocent civilans in jetliners as your weapon of choice.

I'm sorry your so pissed off at us.
I'm sorry you think your country is at risk by the U.S.

But I am not sorry that America is fighting against the terrorist factions and those who support them.

Take that as you will, but thats what this American thinks and feels.

Am I a Lion?... No, I think I'ma tellin' the truth.

BarnStormer

CONNORFLYNN

Monday, November 8, 2004 7:20 PM

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Hey, who would have thought the US would attack Iraq back in the eightys

Remember the Reagan days when you were shovelling in the economic and military aid assisting them in their war of aggression against Iran ?

Back when your gov was trying to cover up that you were subsidizing the sale of helocopters equipped with spraying equipment, along with chemical weapons and support equipment even while ole Saddam was using them on disenting elements of his own population.

Hard to picture back then isn't it ?

" Canada's PM has come out and said recently that we are good friends "

What else is he going to say ? We simply do too much trade with you to say what is really on our minds anymore. I would say %90 of the people I know decided not to vote for the conservative party up here last election ONLY because they are a bunch of American asskissers.

Hell, there is an active political movement to expell your ambassador ( a real piece of work )

http://www.petitiononline.com/cb23124/petition.html

We are your number two supplier of oil, number one of natural gas, we supply 3/4 of the electricity used in the Northern States, we have other resources not the least being clean water which will become very important as you continue to pollute yours.

As a Canadian what I would like us as a country to do, rebuild our military ( but stay the hell out of Iraq, and pull out of Afganistan ) as well as stop acting as if the US was our only trade partner as get our goods into other markets, you will influence us a lot less if our economys weren't so co-dependant.

I would also push harder on our trade disputes, grain, softwood lumber, beef, steel, etc. I would have these resolved by the end of 2005, or I would simply pull out of NAFTA and make up the difference in tariffs on products you can't buy anywhere else.

If we cannot agree on missle defence

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20041104.wmiss1104/
BNStory/National/

perhaps we should scrap NORAD and look to our own programs

We are not really friends, but then I pose the question : can the US call any other country friend ? most of your coalition was bought to the cause, the exceptions being Australia and Britain... and it looks like Tony Blair may well lose the election next year over siding with Bush...

If the positions were reversed, would you feel differently ?

" Looking for a place to happen, making stops along the way "

Hehe..please don't take offense at this, but you sound like a closet case conservative. I also will issue my apologies now, because Canada isn't safe. The crackpot fringe kooks from America are trying to descend down upon Canada as we speak. It's actually quite hilarious in that respect.

Personally, I would love to see Canada rebuild its military. Every miltary person from Canada has been a bad-ass according to some relatives who have fought alongside them in WWII and the Korean War. A friend of mine and I have been discussing Canada's military. He was saying that Canada actually disbanded one of the meanest specialist groups on the planet after an issue arose in Mogadishu.

anyhow..I hope it all works out.

SIGMANUNKI

Monday, November 8, 2004 10:09 PM

The missle shield won't work, so I think it amusing that GW still wants to go for it and sad that some Canadians still want to join in as well.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1134806/posts

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He was saying that Canada actually disbanded one of the meanest specialist groups on the planet after an issue arose in Mogadishu.

You are talking about this, yes?

http://www.fact-index.com/t/th/the_somalia_incident.html

linked off of this page:

http://www.fact-index.com/c/ca/canadian_special_forces.html

Hazing is illegal here.

And at least in one respect we are still wicked when I comes to things military (our snipers rock

). And this comment comes from the US!

http://www.snipersparadise.com/articles/2430kill.htm
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During the next four days of fighting, the Newfoundland corporal set what is believed to be a record for a long-distance shot under combat conditions, hitting an enemy gunman at a distance of 2,430 metres.
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I don't think we get the credit we deserve because we don't go out of our way to tell people about it and a lot of our accomplishments were done when we were still technically a British colony (officially ended in 1982).

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

GINOBIFFARONI

Tuesday, November 9, 2004 3:07 AM

http://www.glasnost.de/hist/usa/1935invasion.html

A little dated but hey,

We even had a mini series not long ago with the American threat as a theme

http://www.cbc.ca/h2o/

Say you only want to be friends.....

Even if you mean it

Can your government really be trusted ?

Try not to laugh when you ask yourself this

" Don't Blame Me I Voted For Kudos "