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Brexit vote Thursday June 23

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
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Friday, June 24, 2016 5:50 PM

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I learned you still can't see the forest for the trees no matter how you think you know or how much you type.

Let's unpack your bullshit:

No, let's unpack YOUR bullshit

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Why did you whine about "no exit polls" and then say there were?
I didn't.

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There really is a law in the UK banning them - fact.
No. there. is. not. There are laws banning the results of exit polls from being BROADCAST while people are still voting. That's a common point between the USA and the UK. Or, are you confused about the difference between conducting a poll versus broadcasting the results?

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Of course that doesn't keep people from doing them - they just call them opinion polls instead.
No, an "opinion poll" is conducted BEFORE an election. An exit poll is conducted near the polling place, with people who have just voted.

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"And it's not like vote counting can't be muddle with. Overall, exit polls are as, or more, reliable than vote counting."

Cites - muddle is muddle. NUMBERS DO LIE. Numbers do whatever someone with resources and desire wants them to do. NUMBERS OBEY.

But number gathered by independent organizations who have no particular dog in the fight more often come out accurately than numbers counted by those with a vested interest.

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You even showed why exit polls can't be trusted in your post:
"Rather than finding fault with the election results, the mainstream media preferred to dismiss the polls as flawed."

No, I showed why the mainstream media can't be trusted. Apparently you missed an important point in the article.

Statisticians ... people who work with sampling statistics and error bands and who know what kind of error to expect from exit polls ... went over the Mitosfky exit poll IN THE USA and determined that the ONLY explanation that couldn't be ruled out was fraud. Between academics who study such things, and the mainstream media, I trust the academics more.

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MY POINT EXACTLY - thank you, you silly twit.
That may have been YOUR point- and it was a stupid one!- but it wasn't mine, and it wasn't the author's.

I followed this very closely at the time - both the FLA recount and the 2004 exit poll anomaly, there is a lot more information that I could bring to the discussion and some original articles, but your eyes glaze over after 140 characters, and I'm not sure that your mind is functional anyway, so I won't bother.

Honestly, I can't believe that someone who is as ignorant of simple facts- like the difference between an opinion poll and an exit poll- would have th balls to opine so freely and so abysmally on the internet. My god, that anyone lets you near a computer! Your phone is smarter than you are!

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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Friday, June 24, 2016 6:03 PM

One of the funny observations to make is the EU, UK, and USA stock market and pound sterling futures.

All of a sudden, they take a nose-dive? You mean, they actually believed their own bullshit opinion polls????

That makes as much sense as believing bullshit unemployment numbers! Or bullshit GDP numbers! No wonder they're so screwed up, they believe their own propaganda!

I'm laughing hysterically at the carnage. I'm surprised you can't hear me all the way over there.

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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Friday, June 24, 2016 7:00 PM

I guess we get to see HOW well-capitalized the banks really are!

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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KPO
Friday, June 24, 2016 8:57 PM

A sad day. Young voters voted overwhelmingly to remain, but have had their future decided for them by older voters:



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm laughing hysterically at the carnage. I'm surprised you can't hear me all the way over there.


Sounds about right.

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Friday, June 24, 2016 8:59 PM

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Because they [academic statisticians] could never be bought? What Russian fairy village did you grow up in?
No, because they shared the numbers and explained their process and their findings, and anyone was welcome to re-investigate their work. As opposed to a secret ballot whose counting procedures can't always be validated.

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Only shows how easily you can be fooled. "They called it an Opinion poll so it must be. Carry on!" -GSTRING
They called it an opinion poll because the results came out BEFORE the vote. My god, GSTRING, get a grip on reality!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm laughing hysterically at the carnage. I'm surprised you can't hear me all the way over there. -SIGNY

Comrade SPUTNYK laughing at other's pain. The reveal is complete, the mask comes off and the grotesque figure smiles a near toothless smile. (maybe one silver tooth)

Like YOU don't laugh at "other's" pain? You don't laugh at some Syrians' pain? Or Russians'? Or Chinese? The difference between you and me is who we laugh at. I laugh at the pain of hedge fund managers, banksters, financiers, and the 0.01% "others" who have nothing to do with us, or the rest of the people on this board, or in fact most of the people in the world.

And if you're invested in the stock market, then you're an idiot. To use a crude phrase, what do stocks have bugger-all to do with the economy? It's a gambling casino and a way for the wealthy to make even more money, that's all. Don't play gambling games that you can't afford to lose.

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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Friday, June 24, 2016 9:13 PM

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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm laughing hysterically at the carnage. I'm surprised you can't hear me all the way over there.



Comrade SPUTNYK laughing at other's pain. The reveal is complete, the mask comes off and the grotesque figure smiles a near toothless smile. (maybe one silver tooth)



That would be fang G. One fang

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Friday, June 24, 2016 9:17 PM

I see you're all reduced to name-calling. As usual, you have nothing interesting to say. I'm outta here, for now. Have fun name-calling and picking your noses.

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I'll tell you what I DON'T like about Trump: I think that he has never confronted either the international banking cartel, nor the CIA-State Dept multi-headed hydra, nor the military-industrial complex. The last person to confront them was JFK (BTW, ALL immigration was illegal under JFK) and look what happened to him.

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KPO
Friday, June 24, 2016 9:49 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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Originally posted by G:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm laughing hysterically at the carnage. I'm surprised you can't hear me all the way over there.



Comrade SPUTNYK laughing at other's pain. The reveal is complete, the mask comes off and the grotesque figure smiles a near toothless smile. (maybe one silver tooth)



That would be fang G. One fang


Lol. Thanks guys, I needed a laugh today.

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Friday, June 24, 2016 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Brenda:
Colour me confused but are the Brits staying in the EU or leaving? Your graphs and posts make no sense to me right now.



They voted to leave Brenda.

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Friday, June 24, 2016 11:41 PM

Britain as a whole voted out, Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to stay in but the majority vote means they leave the EU





Gibraltar also was able to vote in the Referendum. Not everyone could vote in the referendum – those in the Crown dependencies (Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man) are ineligible for a start. Access to the Single Market appeals particularly to Gibraltar, Bermuda and the Falklands. Gibraltar overwhelmingly backs Remain because it frets about being left at the mercy of Spain. Many do not relish the thought of having to set up new treaties with the EU – a body that is “increasingly sceptical” of overseas territories, according to the Caribbean Council.

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