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| 6ixStringJack: And that, to me, is what respect is all about. Real respect. Earned respect. Not the manufactured respect that everyone is told that they should be giving each other based around arbitrary rules surrounding, revolving around and oftentimes just ping-ponging all over the place from every ideological box under the sun. Because of our shared post history and how well I believe I know you and have witnessed you carry yourself here, I'd feel awful knowing that I did anything that just carelessly hurt your feelings or personally insulted you. I didn't even think about the Columbus thing when recommending it here, and especially not when suggesting it strongly to you, but to be honest, I'd misinterpreted what your reaction to that might be too even if I did remember that part was in the video, probably unfairly. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 07:14 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: Yeah, Brenda. I do appreciate it. I know one time I did snap at you for something and I was having a pretty bad time of something then and in one of my angry moods. It wasn't an excuse, and I felt pretty awful about it, especially once you told me what you'd really meant and then I really felt like an asshole. You are the last person on this board that anybody should give any shit for any reason. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 07:00 | |||||||||
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THG: Not my point. Indians from Canada and North America like to claim they didn't migrate like others. That they were just always there. They express indignation when others say not so. There has been significant migration of Indigenous peoples to Canada. Archaeological research suggests that Indigenous peoples may have arrived in North America as early as 12,000 years ago, with many migrating into Canada during the last Ice Age. I think I'll thank the Wampanoag people The first Thanksgiving took place in 1621 at Plymouth, in present-day Massachusetts. It was a harvest feast shared between the English colonists and the Wampanoag people. This event is often celebrated as a symbol of cooperation and gratitude. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 06:05 |
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| Brenda: I know where my ancestors came from and I am now done with you in here. End. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 05:00 | |||||||||
| Brenda: THG. The landmasses of the whole world were at one time one giant landmass called Pangea. The tectonic plates shifted because of earthquakes causing the super continent of Pangea to break up. The tectonic plates kept the land masses shifted until they reached the positions they are in now. The Rift Valley in East Africa is still expanding and will one day break Kenya into two pieces. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 04:59 | |||||||||
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| THG: Canada was once a part of Asia - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 04:35 | |||||||||
| THG: Your conversation with Jack lacks facts. As I was reading it, I didn't think you or Jack knew shit. So, you blow. CC did not discover America except for Italy. And It's a good bet your ancestor's come from Asia. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 04:33 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Oh, THG. When you sit down to your Thanksgiving dinner tomorrow. Say thank you to the Cherokee for giving you the Three Sisters. Which are corn, beans and squash. Pumpkins are of the squash family. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 03:25 | |||||||||
| Brenda: I like it too. Sharing information and trying to understand each other is all we can hope for. Oh, SIX. I have been wanting that since I was in my 20s. We humans forget that are core things that we all need. And oh how I wish we could get over all of our fights but you and I won't see it. Maybe someone in the future will. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 03:22 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Sorry about that SIX. But THG is getting on my nerves and I couldn't let things slide. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 03:16 | |||||||||
| Brenda: THG, I know that about my own people. We don't have an enzyme in our systems that lets you break down the alcohol. Known that for years. Also know about the migration patterns about people coming into South, Central and North America. So blow. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 03:15 | |||||||||
| Brenda: I've heard of Tesla but I don't know much about the man. I think a lot of people know that scientists have stolen each other's works for years. It probably goes on today but it is kept under wraps better. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 03:12 | |||||||||
Brenda: I know about Leif Erikson too. We were taught that when I was in elementary school and some into High School I think. Don't really remember too long a time ago for me. 
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| Brenda: THG, the Vikings landed in what is now Newfoundland a 1,000 years before Columbus. And they were only here between 20 to 40years. They couldn't co-exist with First Nations and were driven out. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 03:08 | |||||||||
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| 6ixStringJack: That's not how we grew up in GenX. Maybe it's just one more reason why hardly any of us ever got into politics and let the Boomers hang on until they go senile. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 01:53 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: I like that we can just talk that out here and not get all shitty and mean with each other because we draw a line and just root for the home team. I don't have any time or desire left in me to be arguing with people over shit that other people wrote about hundreds of years ago. I hope one day we can get past all this grievance culture that has plagued us the last 20 years and really went off the rails. My group in my late teens was totally integrating. Big group that all got together all the time and we didn't give a shit who was in it. Then the internet and all this toxic politics seeped into everything and made everybody hate each other. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 01:50 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: On a similar note, I'd never even heard of Nicola Tesla at all until I was in my mid-30's. Now it's commonly "known" how much Edison stole from him. I don't know. I wasn't there. It seems like everything I was taught about everything as a kid is being taught a completely different way, even down to math with their "core" stuff, which seems to me to be completely indecipherable and makes simple math far more complex than it ever needs to be. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 01:48 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: And now so many other people have written their own words about history that everybody can just pick and choose what history makes the most sense to them. Like Ted here, for instance. He's not "wrong". Of course we've all heard of Leif Erikson and how he was here ages before Columbus was. I was even hearing of him in school, by Middle School (grades 7 & 8 by me). Never had been taught a lick about Erik in grade school though. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 01:47 | |||||||||
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6ixStringJack: I really like talking with you Brenda. You make me face things from time to time that I wouldn't normally face, but at the same time I feel pretty relaxed saying what I feel too. But really, I mean, if I'm being COMPLETELY honest here, I'm only about 50/50 that Christopher Columbus even existed. As you said, "so here we are". Indeed we are. I guess we just take other people's words who wrote a bunch of books over the last few hundreds of years and make them our truth or we don't.
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| THG: And the Chinese and Indian share a commonality, they can't hold their liquor. Put two and two together. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 00:44 | |||||||||
| THG: Wake up; a group of Icelandic Norse explorers led by Leif Erikson likely beat Columbus to the punch by around 500 years. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.27 00:42 | |||||||||
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Brenda: No, I haven't read 500 Years of Solitude. Maybe I should take a look see at it. I guess that young woman was charming in her own way. But just not my cup of tea. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 23:26 |
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Brenda: Any of the explorers that came through Canada at the time could have claimed finding this new land right down into the US. Of course you are right. Some other guy would have bumped into my continent eventually and the same thing would have occured. I can't argue with you on anything you have said. In fact I think one time I said as much to Sig. So, here we are. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 23:25 |
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Brenda: No they didn't have good records back then. And many explorers came through Canada as well. So, you do have a point. The Portuguese sailed here and "found" what now call the Grand Banks. Huge cod fishing area. It is also how Newfoundland got its name. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 23:22 |
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| 6ixStringJack: And if we're being completely honest about it, if it wasn't Columbus, it would have just been somebody else. What happened was an inevitability. Europe was going to do what it did nearly 550 years ago eventually as technology improved and more people were out exploring. You ever read the book 500 Years of Solitude? That was a good book. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 19:33 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: I don't know... I find her quite charming and funny. Reasonable on both sides. And though I totally understand where you're coming with Columbus, we were raised being taught he was a hero, especially in Italian families like mine, but that was just taught to us as kids as 100% fact like all the other historical lore. So when people started attacking, it felt like it was just another anti-white attack like all the rest of them. As far as I'm concerned now, I believe that they're lying to you about him just as much as they used to lie to me about him, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. A truth that we'll never know because they didn't record everything in 4k back in 1492. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 19:29 | |||||||||
| Brenda: And here we go again. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 09:26 | |||||||||
| Brenda: I watched her video and she lost me at saying Columbus discovered America. That got under my skin but then I thought okay I will give her a second chance. What she said in ways sounds like me at times in RL. Canadian Federal politics do go between the Conservatives and the Liberals. Has for all of my life and from what I know of Canadian history that includes my dad as well. So, I can see some of her points, like people being PO'd at the GOP and going Democrat. My problem with the US system is when you don't like either you have no where to go. And also she is annoying as all get out. Or maybe that is me being a grumpy old lady. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 05:59 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Tag seems to be getting a little funky too. My statement SIX about threads took a bit to post. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 05:52 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Yup, I know SIX. I may try later. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 05:51 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: That seems so important to me as a very novice coder without any web experience that I'm surprised that the site still works as well as it does today. It must be a purely superficial set of tags that don't control file structure, or this place probably would look like the Kill Screen on Pac-Man by now and wouldn't even be usable anymore. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 04:26 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: I'm not really in these other places, and the entire thread including the post that I just made aren't really in these other places either. I just see that bug pop up enough to notice that for whatever reason the website is telling me everything is in a different place than it actually is. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 04:24 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: Since I can't pull it up in front of me right now, I can't tell you exactly what to look for, but it's above the first post somewhere on every page where it has the category and sub-categories that are open to the posts made within at the end of the chain. 99.9% of the time it's going to end with the "RWED", but sometimes I find it telling me I'm in Talk Story or General Discussions, or even some really strange things like individual people's blogs that are in the part of the website that I don't think I ever even visited in my history here. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 04:21 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: Also, you may have actually experienced what I'm talking about (ending up in a different part of the website after making a post) but you just didn't realize it. It's really subtle. The posts I'm talking about are always posted where I posted from, so nobody else would ever notice it, and depending which way you personally leave pages after you post is regular for you, you might never notice it yourself either. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 04:21 | |||||||||
6ixStringJack: Oh... Brenda... I'll put the link to the ShoeOnHead video here for you in case you didn't find it yourself. [go to link] would LOVE to hear your take. 
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| 6ixStringJack: Only problem with that is I don't believe you can create a new handle here anymore. And I don't think I have a password for the temporary "Joker" version of my handle that I used for a few weeks after Firefox started throwing me warnings about the website not being secure and not understanding exactly what that meant at the time. I'd probably just be locked out for good if my identity here were bugged out. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 04:12 | |||||||||
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6ixStringJack: NGL... sometimes I wish the bug would hit me and delete my entire post history. I won't go back and change or remove anything on my own as I always said I never would, but I'm sure when I was really bad with the drinking I said a lot of things that would make me die of embarrassment if I read them today. Without any social media presence to speak of outside of my handle here, I was pretty much able to wipe everything away and start with a clean slate when I got sober everywhere else in my life except for this website. I'm never going to go back and read any of it, and I'll never delete it, but I wouldn't mind if a computer bug did the job for me.
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| 6ixStringJack: Yeah, Ted... if me simply updating my posts a few or more times with edits is a problem I could see pulling up 18 year old threads and swapping their places in the database like that could cause problems too. Not that I get the specifics or anything, but if it's broke enough to fail doing stuff we had no problems doing years ago and deleting people's entire post history, it makes sense to me that having everyone's post from 2 days ago suddenly on page 5 would be a problem. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 04:06 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: Yeah... Looks like we're broke again, Brenda. I can't do anything either. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 04:03 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Got into the garden thread this morning but not now. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 03:54 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Well, I just tried SIX's "ShoeonHead" thread and it won't come up. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 03:52 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Nothing like that but I have things not want to post and then when I leave the thread and go back. I find that my post has double posted. But never switched spots. I know about loosing posting history. Happened to me when I think I was living in the really crappy place. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 03:49 | |||||||||
| THG: G lost his entire history. He had to rejoin the site as captiancrunch. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 01:08 | |||||||||
| THG: I can't explain it. Haken said there is a sort of switch that triggers, and when it doesn't, he has to do in manually. I'm sure I got that wrong. Anyway, the site is not maintained, and we've been warned by the site's erratic behavior it can't take the load. I don't want to fault JT but as I've said. I can post in one of my threads on Monday and two days later it can be found on page 5. That happens with all current threads. I'm still here and using my threads because my titles are relevant to what I want to post. And it happens in general discussions as well. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 01:06 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: I'll be honest, I do put quite a few edits on some of my posts, sometimes rather quickly. I wonder if that contributes to it too? Seems silly, since I've done that since day one when we had hundreds or even thousands of people posting. You guys ever notice that you'll be posting in the RWED and all of the sudden you're in a different area like General Discussions or something, even though the post actually is posted in the RWED and it all kind of "resets" when you go back to Home? I wonder if there's some database issue like with the people who've lost their entire post history. Probably some tiny bug somewhere that would be impossible to dig up that a website that isn't almost 25 years old wouldn't have. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.26 00:11 | |||||||||
| Brenda: I had the same thing happen last night. Tried the garden thread and it was a no go. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.25 23:32 | |||||||||
| THG: Remember, it's not being maintained at all. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.25 18:55 | |||||||||
| THG: I think digging up all the older threads at such a quick pace may be overwhelming this old site. Simply put, it's being overworked. Just a guess - http://www.fireflyfans.net 11.25 18:14 |
