***** Sound of Freedom
POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
UPDATED: Tuesday, January 23, 2024 03:13
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Today no changes from Bruce.
BOM added Russia, and also updated UAE - with full details for the week.
UAE: Larger weekly BO than last week, and largest weekday BO since it opened on 17 August.
Weekend BO ranked #7 - the highest so far.
Ranked #4 in $ per theater.
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Updating:
Sound of Freedom International Box Office.
I think I need to start a new table for this. Data is hard to come by, is not transparent, and seems to fluctuate a bunch. I will need to use Box Office Mojo for source data, and work from there. If other data becomes available, I will try to reconcile that.
Legend:
Each nation's entry is comprised of 2 lines.
In the first Identifier places, the order is by the stated Release Date. Next is the Country Abbreviation.
In the line below that, the Maximum number of theaters I could find for a film in that country. Then the day which they start their weekend, according to their Box Office Results. This is either Thursday or Friday.
The remainder of the columns have weekday figures in the top line, and weekend figures in the 2nd line, plus the subtotals.
The column labeled Date Range has the range of dates for those figures.
Next column is Box Office for those dates.
Next is the Rank of that Box Office figure.
Next is Theater Count.
Next is $ per Theater Average.
Next is the Rank of the $ per Theater figure.
Next is the Total, for weekdays only.
Next is the 7 Day Totals, which is both lines added together.
Next is the Rank of that 7 Day Total Box Office (when available, or calculated).
Next is the Cumulative Total for that Country.
Then are selected figures from the Prior week, to reference for comparison.
Data is culled from Box Office Mojo. Countries with Asterisks are using data from The Numbers - mostly because that data is not available on BOM.
Fields highlighted green are values greater than the prior week. Box Office, rank, theater count, $ per theater, rank, weekly total or subtotal.
Figures highlighted red are intended to be placeholders for fields which are waiting for updated or current data.
Week of 28 August - 3 September:
Nation0 DateRng _____________________This Week______________________ ___________Last Week___________
Rel Thtr Weekdy BoxOffc Rk Thtr $ per Rnk Total 0 7 Day Rnk Cummultv BoxOffc Rk Thtr 7 Day Cummultiv
Dte Cont Weeknd00000000000 Cnt Theatr0000Weekday SbTotal0000Total BO00000000000 Cnt SbTotal0Total BO
18A Icel 28-31A $10,440 __ 0 6 $1,740 __ $10,440 00000000000000000000$11,469 __ 0 8 00000
000014/F 1 -3 S $ 7,039 #7 0 3 $2,346 #6 00000000$17,479 __ $ 57,465 $13,749 #3 0 60$25,218 $ 39,986
17A UAE- 28-30A $53,592 __ 019 $2,821 __ $53,592 00000000000000000000$74,806 __ 039
000200/T 31A-3S 113,996 #7 018 $6,333 #3 00000000167,588 __ $487,869 $91,780 #9 0190166,586 $320,281
18A SAfr 28-31A $30,485 __ 064 $0 476 __ $30,485 00000000000000000000$46,765 __ 060
000117/F 1 -3 S $41,930 #3 062 $0 676 #3000000000$72,415 __ $267,102 $59,995 #2 0640106,760 $194,687
18A Lith 28-31A $ 3,491 __ 0
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I did check online and there's still quite a few showings for Sound of Freedom at theaters near me, so it's still in the Domestic theaters even though there hasn't been an update for those in over a week.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm super annoyed right now at the state of box office reporting this week(end).
We still haven't gotten an update on Sound of Freedom since Tuesday.
Talk To Me's Domestic weekend is the only movie on the list that is still projections and not actual numbers, and it's after 7PM on Monday.
Though TTM got a couple of bucks internationally on the-numbers.com, it's obvious it didn't get the weekend update and Bruce hasn't yet reconciled his internationals with whatever BOM has been reporting.
... Maybe tomorrow.
Saturday/Sunday's Numbers (Pre-International):
1. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
2. Sound of Freedom - 1,455% (+0%)
3. Talk to Me - 1,444% (+22)
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,360% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
SoF needs 54% to beat M3GAN. (About $8 Million)
SoF is 11% above Talk To Me.
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Four days later and the situation isn't any better...
I've noticed very small additions to Talk To Me in the countries it's still showing in this week, so with the exception of the Japan release that may or may not even come out until after Talk To Me is released online, I don't think there's very much more international action with Talk To Me at this point.
Here's what TTM did last week in the countries that got an update:
France: $32,331 (-53.2%) / Next Weekend Guess: $16k
Spain: $30,303 (-47.4%) / Next Weekend Guess: $15k
Netherlands: $42,826 (-18.2%) / Next Weekend Guess: $21k
UAE: $1,008 (It's dead here) / Next Weekend Guess: $0
Portugal: $11,371 (-64.5%) / Next Weekend Guess: $5k
Hungary: $5,218 (It's dead here) / Next Weekend Guess: $2k
Columbia: $353 (It's dead here) / Next Weekend Guess: $0
Russia: $23,741 (-50.1%) / Next Weekend Guess: $12k
New Zealand: $2,043 (It's dead here) / Next Weekend Guess: $1k
Hong Kong: $61,455 (Opening Weekend here) / Next Weekend Guess: $38k
TOTAL GUESS FOR THIS WEEKEND ON THESE: $110k
Here's the countries that haven't been updated in a while that are still doing business:
UK: No update since Aug 18-20 (It made $151,116 that weekend, so probably not more than another $500k there max).
Poland: No update since sep 8-10 (It made $37,265 that weekend, so probably not more than another $40k there max).
Germany: No update since July 27-30 (It made $311,970 on that opening weekend, so probably not more than another $500-$600k there max).
Turkey: No update since Sep 8-10 (It made $28,802 on that weekend, so probably not more than another $25k since then.)
Mexico: No update since Sep 8-10 (It made $386,523 that weekend, so probably another $250-$300k since then).
TOTAL GUESS ON THIS WEEKEND AND UNREPORTED INCOME FOR THESE: $1.3 Million.
These are the countries listed on BOM that haven't had an update in a while but aren't likely to contribute much of anything anyhow:
Norway: No update since Sep 1-3 (It made $5,986 on that weekend, it's basically dead here).
Bulgaria: No update since Sep 8-10 (It made $948 on that weekend, it's dead here).
Czech Republic: No update since Aug-31-Sep3 (It made $5,846 on that weekend, so it's basically dead here.)
Lithuania: No update since Sep 8-10 (It made $4757 that weekend, so it's basically dead here.)
Slovakia: No update since Aug 10-13 (It made $5,545 that weekend, so it's basically dead here).
Iceland: No update since Sep 8-10 (It made $649 that weekend. It's dead here).
Vietnam: No update since Sep 8-10 (It made $623 that weekend. It's dead here).
GUESS ON TOTAL UNREPORTED REVENUE FOR THESE: $40k max.
My guess is that in addition to the $4.3 Million that Bruce hasn't added for TTM in addition to unreported money at BOM (including business through this coming weekend) is in the area of $5.6 Million.
Another $1.3 Million would be enough to give 2 more bumps to
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Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Though not nearly as severe as the difference between the-numbers and BOM as Talk To Me is right now, the international number for SoF is now $28,709,212 at BOM and remains only at $27,565,724 at the-numbers. That's an additional $1,143,488, as opposed to the additional $4.3 Million or so at BOM for Talk To Me.
BOM doesn't give us a whole lot to work with, but they did release Sep 14-17 numbers for Columbia, which was $611,764, or only a 30.9% drop after the previous weekend's 19.5% drop. It's probably well over $10 Million in Mexico at this point. Maybe in the area of $12-$13 Million.
The difference between BOM and the-numbers for SoF has grown to $1,704,288 this morning from $1,143,488 last night.
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Today no changes from Bruce.
BOM added Russia, and also updated UAE - with full details for the week.
UAE: Larger weekly BO than last week, and largest weekday BO since it opened on 17 August.
Weekend BO ranked #7 - the highest so far.
Ranked #4 in $ per theater.
I see those. And then I realized that because of BOMs reporting I can't even tell what else has been updated with new numbers because I never bothered archiving them to compare. I suppose I should since Bruce is falling asleep at the wheel here.
BOM SoF 9/22 morning archive: https://archive.ph/URMtg
BOM TTM 9/22 morning archive: https://archive.ph/2apx7
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Talk To Me gets its Domestic update through Thursday, so apparently somebody is still doing their job at A24. Not sure if Angel Studios laid off all of its staff or something.
I'm going to make a list going into the weekend based off of what BOM has for International numbers on the two films, what the-numbers has for both of them Domestically, and then just add the missing days from Wednesday to Thursday for SoF giving it a 55% drop from the previous week, which is what it appears to be at.
It's all theory at this point, but not much else can be done about that until actual numbers start coming in.
TTM BOM International: $22,321,290
SoF BOM International: $29,270,012
TTM The-Numbers Domestic: $47,193,786
SoF The-Numbers Domestic: $183,234,204
SoF's missing 9 Domestic Days at .45% of previous week: $325,174
TOTAL TTM: $ 69,515,076
TOTAL SoF: $212,829,390
Based off of that...
Thursday's (Theoretical) Numbers:
1. Talk to Me - 1,556% ()
2. M3GAN - 1,508% [FINAL]
3. Sound of Freedom - 1,469% ()
4. Super Mario Bros - 1,360% [FINAL]
5. Insidious: The Red Door - 1,163% [FINAL]
SoF needs 88% to beat Talk To Me. (About $13 Million)
SoF needs 40% to beat M3GAN. (About $6 Million)
But that's still very heavily weighted in Talk To Me's favor, given the $4,340,453 that BOM shows internationally above the-numbers vs. the $1,704,288 that BOM shows internationally above TTM for SoF. Especially when you consider that SoF leans much more toward its infancy in its international run than TTM does and BOM's newest numbers for TTM are much more recent or the same week as SoF's in every case. Also, SoF got its Brazil release last night, which may prove to be it's biggest international market, which I'm basing off of the numbers that Blue Beetle has gotten in Brazil vs. Mexico.
I stated yesterday it was my belief that if TTM's numbers were up to date as far as they've listed them on BOM, I expect that by the end of the weekend there would be an additional $1.3 Million going to TTM internationally by the end of the weekend were it updated this time. Add another $370k to that for Domestic this weekend (considering a 35% drop like last weekend), for $1.7 Million additional for TTM by the end of this weekend.
Now we'd be at roughly $71.2 Million for TTM at weekend's end, worldwide.
In the 15 of 18 Latin American countries reported at BOM that aren't Mexico, BOM reports $12,384,396. Mexico is $7,477,850, for a total of $19,862,246.
Columbia is the only country with any real data to make inferences from: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3869803265/weekend/
1st Weekend: $1,098,931
1st Week: $523,619
2nd Weekend: $885,026 (-19.5%)
2nd Week: $352,474 (-32.7%)
3rd Weekend: $611,764 (-30.9%)
Columbia is the only country we know for sure has been updated since after September 12th, when Mexico was last updated. But we can assume that not much, if any, new numbers have been updated for these other Latin American countries so far since on September 11th BOM's international total was already $26,928,706, which is only $2,341,306 less than it reads 11 days later. We know that $964,238 was the update through last weekend for Columbia. We know that $82,111 was the update through last weekend for New Zealand. We know that $137,202 of that was Russia's opening weekend. We know that $480,201 was UK's update through last weekend. We know that $241,392 is UAE's update through last weekend. That brings us down to only $436k difference, and I haven't even bothered adding up smaller additions like Croatia, South Africa, and every other country listed under "Europe, Middle East and Africa".
In other words, if any new money was added to the Latin American countries since the 12th, it was insignificant.
So I'm going to go very conservative here and estimate a 50% dropoff week to week in all of those Latin American countries besides Columbia (as well as assume a 50% drop off this las
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Today Bruce updated Croatia, but the International Totak remained unchanged, since 13 Sept.
BOM had action.
Added Poland, although without any figures - apparently it opened 15 Sep.
Updates with figures were UK, South Africa, Iceland, Lithuania, Slovenia.
UK did more during the weekdays than during the weekend. The weekend drop was 27%.
Iceland and Slovenia each had their highest ever $ per theater, as well as the increased rank of that.
Nothing from Mexico since 12 Sep.
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Man...
Talk To Me is really hanging in there well in the Domestic Box Office.
The projection for Friday is $129,545, or only a 20% drop. I thought for sure we'd see our first sub-$100k weekend day for TTM this weekend. It actually rose from $285 per theater the last two Friday nights to $308 per theater last night.
I think that tiny bit of data right there points to 1,622% minimum being just about certain in the end.
Sound of Freedom is going to need to do stellar in Brazil and have a much smaller than 50% week to week drops in Latin America to take first place. That, or we're going to have to have some concrete evidence that the budget was lower than what we've heard it was.
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So far today, no International updates from Bruce.
At BOM, Poland got updated with all the figures from last weekend, it's opening. And the previews.
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Updating:
Sound of Freedom International Box Office.
I think I need to start a new table for this. Data is hard to come by, is not transparent, and seems to fluctuate a bunch. I will need to use Box Office Mojo for source data, and work from there. If other data becomes available, I will try to reconcile that.
Legend:
Each nation's entry is comprised of 2 lines.
In the first Identifier places, the order is by the stated Release Date. Next is the Country Abbreviation.
In the line below that, the Maximum number of theaters I could find for a film in that country. Then the day which they start their weekend, according to their Box Office Results. This is either Thursday or Friday.
The remainder of the columns have weekday figures in the top line, and weekend figures in the 2nd line, plus the subtotals.
The column labeled Date Range has the range of dates for those figures.
Next column is Box Office for those dates.
Next is the Rank of that Box Office figure.
Next is Theater Count.
Next is $ per Theater Average.
Next is the Rank of the $ per Theater figure.
Next is the Total, for weekdays only.
Next is the 7 Day Totals, which is both lines added together.
Next is the Rank of that 7 Day Total Box Office (when available, or calculated).
Next is the Cumulative Total for that Country.
Then are selected figures from the Prior week, to reference for comparison.
Data is culled from Box Office Mojo. Countries with Asterisks are using data from The Numbers - mostly because that data is not available on BOM.
Fields highlighted green are values greater than the prior week. Box Office, rank, theater count, $ per theater, rank, weekly total or subtotal.
Figures highlighted red are intended to be placeholders for fields which are waiting for updated or current data.
Week of 28 August - 3 September:
Nation0 DateRng _____________________This Week______________________ ___________Last Week___________
Rel Thtr Weekdy BoxOffc Rk Thtr $ per Rnk Total 0 7 Day Rnk Cummultv BoxOffc Rk Thtr 7 Day Cummultiv
Dte Cont Weeknd00000000000 Cnt Theatr0000Weekday SbTotal0000Total BO00000000000 Cnt SbTotal0Total BO
18A Icel 28-31A $10,440 __ 0 6 $1,740 __ $10,440 00000000000000000000$11,469 __ 0 8 00000
000014/F 1 -3 S $ 7,039 #7 0 3 $2,346 #6 00000000$17,479 __ $ 57,465 $13,749 #3 0 60$25,218 $ 39,986
17A UAE- 28-30A $53,592 __ 019 $2,821 __ $53,592 00000000000000000000$74,806 __ 039
000200/T 31A-3S 113,996 #7 018 $6,333 #3 00000000167,588 __ $487,869 $91,780 #9 0190166,586 $320,281
18A SAfr 28-31A $30,485 __ 064 $0 476 __ $30,485 00000000000000000000$46,765 __ 060
000117/F 1 -3 S $41,930 #3 062 $0 676 #3000000000$72,415 __ $267,102 $59,995 #2 0640106,760 $194,687
18A Lith 28-31A $ 3,491 __
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