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Saturday, December 30, 2023 6:15 PM

Trump supporters are nothing but fundamentalists

The congenital braggart who embodies what Christianity has traditionally called the seven deadly sins has come to seem the totem of faith for millions of Republican evangelicals.

By Gene Lyons | Dec 29, 2023, 6:00am CST

https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2023/12/29/24017885/donald-tru
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Donald Trump’s MAGA movement is fundamentalist at its core — with fundamentalism being understood as a psychological rather than a religious concept.

Pretty much every large-scale public movement, secular or sacred, has its share of extremists, and as the religious columnist Paul Prather has argued: “Remove the labels, close your eyes and quickly the fundamentalists in one group start sounding uncannily like the fundamentalists in all other groups, as if they were reading from the same script.”

It’s another word for fanatic.

Most Trumpists call themselves “conservative,” which used to signify a belief in limited government, low taxes, free trade and freedom of conscience but which under Trump signals tribal loyalty and revenge.

This explains what some see as the central paradox of the MAGA movement: that a congenital braggart who embodies what Christianity has traditionally called the seven deadly sins — greed, lust, envy, sloth, gluttony, pride and wrath — has come to seem the totem of faith for millions of Republican evangelicals.

Trump spent Christmas Day typing up and posting laments and threats in ALL CAPS on his Truth Social, targeting “JOE BIDEN’S MISFITS & THUGS, LIKE DERANGED JACK SMITH.” They’re “COMING AFTER ME,” he warned, “AT LEVELS OF PERSECUTION NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN OUR COUNTRY??? ... looking to destroy our once great USA. MAY THEY ROT IN HELL. AGAIN, MERRY CHRISTMAS!”

A bit lacking in the spirit of the holiday, some would say.

Not to mention he’s the world’s biggest crybaby.

But they would be wrong, the MAGA faithful would insist. George Orwell captured the essence of the whiny strongman in reviewing the British edition of Adolf Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” way back in 1940, after the German dictator had driven Germany to war, but before it was clear he had doomed his country to catastrophe.

Hitler, Orwell wrote, “knows that human beings don’t only want comfort, safety, [and] short working-hours ... they also, at least intermittently, want struggle and self-sacrifice, not to mention drums, flags and loyalty-parades.”

Orwell understood fascism’s appeal to an aggrieved population. While European and North American democracies, he wrote, told people in effect that “‘I offer you a good time,’ Hitler has said to them, ‘I offer you struggle, danger and death,’ and as a result a whole nation flings itself at his feet.”

Orwell also understood the personal psychology of the crybaby conqueror: “The initial, personal cause of [Hitler’s] grievance against the universe can only be guessed at; but at any rate the grievance is here. He is the martyr, the victim, Prometheus chained to the rock, the self-sacrificing hero who fights single-handed against impossible odds. If he were killing a mouse he would know how to make it seem like a dragon.”

Sound like anybody we know?

That said, I do believe Trump when he says he never read “Mein Kampf.” Too long, too many big words. Trump never learned anything from a book. He stole his whole act from 1950s professional wrestlers at Sunnyside Gardens in Queens, specifically from Dr. Jerry Graham, who swaggered around boasting that “I have the body men fear and women adore.”

The hairstyle, too — a bleached blond pompadour that taught a generation of wrestling fans how a “heel” behaved — that is, basically like a cartoon Nazi. Graham was a masterful showman who aroused thousands to frenzy with balsa wood chairs and fake blood capsules. He was as fat as Trump, too, although there was muscle under the lard.

Likewise, Trump needed no books to absorb the lesson that nonwhite immigrants are “vermin” poisoning the nation’s b

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Sunday, December 31, 2023 3:20 AM



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:


Maine Secretary of State Shenna Bellows decided Thursday to remove Donald Trump from the state’s presidential ballot.
Maine’s Shenna Bellows.

Jared Golden, a Democratic congressman from Lewiston who voted to impeach Trump over the January 6th riots, quickly issued a statement:

We are a nation of laws, therefore until he is actually found guilty of the crime of insurrection, he should be allowed on the ballot. ... Is there any way this ends well? - Matt Taibbi



THUGR: There is nothing in the constitution that even suggests he has to be convicted first.

SIGNYM: There's something in our Constitution... perhaps you're not familiar with it, seeing as you apparently hate freedom ... that's called "due process". It's in the Fifth Amendment.

Quote:

The term "innocent until proven guilty" is not in the U.S. Constitution.
The presumption of innocence is recognized as a due process right under the Fifth Amendment.
The prosecutor has the burden of proof to show you are guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.


https://www.lawinfo.com/resources/criminal-defense/is-the-presumption-
of-innocence-in-the-consti.html


You CLAIM to love America but you'd trample the freedoms that make my country so great.


THUGR: That said, the Colorado courts found he did incite an insurrection.

SIGNY: The Chief Justice and two other Democrat judges found that Trump's Constitutional rights had been violated.

THUGR: Quotes that reference your claims about the chief justice and others are needed comrade. They did not argue Trump did not incite an insurrection. So they agreed he did. They just said they did not know if they had the power to remove him from the ballet. Nothing about his rights being violated.



Says the guy who didn't provide a quote!
Or even a link.


If they don't have "the power", that is, the LEGAL AUTHORITY to remove him from the ballot, that means they acted outside of DUE PROCESS.


Quote:

Dem-appointed Colorado justice says Trump ballot ban undermines 'bedrock' of America in fiery dissent


The Colorado Supreme Court's decision to ban former President Trump from the state's primary ballot undermines a "bedrock principle" of American democracy, one of the court's Democrat-appointed justices wrote in a fiery dissent.

Justices Carlos Samour, Maria Berkenkotter and Chief Justice Brian D. Boatright all dissented, but Samour was particularly critical of the 4-3 ruling. Samour and Boatright were each appointed by Democratic former Gov. John Hickenlooper, while Berkenkotter was appointed by current Gov. Jared Polis, also a Democrat.

"The decision to bar former President Donald J. Trump — by all accounts the current leading Republican presidential candidate (and reportedly the current leading overall presidential candidate) — from Colorado's presidential primary ballot flies in the face of the DUE PROCESS doctrine," Samour wrote.

"Even IF we are convinced that a candidate committed horrible acts in the past — dare I say, engaged in insurrection — there must be procedural due process before we can declare that individual disqualified from holding public office," he wrote.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/dem-appointed-colorado-justice
-says-trump-ballot-ban-undermines-bedrock-of-america-in-fiery-dissent/ar-AA1lNqTT


a) The dissenting justices aren't convinced Trump was guilty
b) And they're convinced the court acted outside of its legal authority.




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

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Sunday, December 31, 2023 6:47 AM

So, THUGR, I'm no Constitutional lawyer, but even I could see there's a big gaping hole in the Colorado decison, and it's all based on EXCESS PARTISANSHIP.

Try to shed your excesses, son. You'll be a better American.

*****
Oh, and next time you claim to post "facts", insinuate - or say outright - that I post "lies", or that I'm a "Russian troll", or bray that you "love America/freedom" ... remember this post where you went down in flames on all four counts.

Oh, and your knowledge of what makes America "America"?
Abysmal!
Maybe you should take a citizenship class!




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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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THG
Sunday, December 31, 2023 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

So, THUGR, I'm no Constitutional lawyer, but even I could see there's a big gaping hole in the Colorado decison, and it's all based on EXCESS PARTISANSHIP.

Try to shed your excesses, son. You'll be a better American.

*****
Oh, and next time you claim to post "facts", insinuate - or say outright - that I post "lies", or that I'm a "Russian troll", or bray that you "love America/freedom" ... remember this post where you went down in flames on all four counts.

Oh, and your knowledge of what makes America "America"?
Abysmal!
Maybe you should take a citizenship class!




SIGNYM






Always wrong signym is at it again.

too funny...

T


Legal experts argue this is why Trump can't hold office again


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Sunday, December 31, 2023 8:48 PM

Trump will be fine. He will also be your next President.



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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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THG
Sunday, December 31, 2023 9:34 PM

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THG
Monday, January 1, 2024 2:05 AM

'Wake the hell up': Conservative goes on furious rant about the state of the GOP

During an appearance on MSNBC on Sunday, former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL) expressed his extreme dismay with the state of the Republican Party that he has abandoned as he fretted that Donald Trump may once again be elected.

Speaking with host Charles Coleman Jr, the conservative commentator finally exploded with, Wake the hell up, America!"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wake-the-hell-up-conservative-
goes-on-furious-rant-about-the-state-of-the-gop/ar-AA1mhi6C?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=e7e3047aa4624c298d9d66fdc8dcc58f&ei=30




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Monday, January 1, 2024 8:10 AM

The GOP has moved away from you Bushite Neocon trash.

Good riddance to Joe Walsh.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Tuesday, January 2, 2024 3:43 AM

We Did It, Joe! Monthly Migrant Encounters Exceed 300,000 For First Time In US History
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-did-it-joe-illegal-migrant-enco
unters-exceed-300000-first-time-us-history


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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM


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Tuesday, January 2, 2024 3:55 AM

MSNBC just giving Ted all the bad news for New Years.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/12/31/msnbcs_kornacki_pre
sident_biden_lowest_approval_rating_for_incumbent_facing_re-election_in_decades.html




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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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