Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Quote:But Ukrainians are Nazis who could attack Belarus for no reason! And Russia is being attacked by those Nazis! Why won't the Belorussians save their Russian-speaking comrades? Because Putin is not Belarus's head of state and Belorussians aren't soaking up Putin's propaganda. It is almost like this war is solely Putin's idea for expanding Russia territory into an adjacent country with a small Army that should have been trivial for Russia to steamroll.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Because Ukraine wasn't shelling close to Belarus' border. Because Ukraine wasn't massing troops on Belarus' border.
You dolt.
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Ukraine is attacking Russia BECAUSE THE WEST AIMED THEM AT RUSSIA. THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN.
USA neocons figured that if Ukraine, with western help, couldn't beat Russia militarily then the west would impose "crippling" sanctions on Russia and engineer regime change that way.
My god, you're Mr Oblivious.
RUSSIA WAS ALWAYS THE TARGET. Belarus simply isn't rich enough, big enough, powerful enough, or have enough resources or nukes to be interesting to the west. Russia is the prize that speculators and financiers wanted to grab.
AGAIN.
It is the nail that refuses to be hammered down.
And neocons grossly miscalculated and AFAICT got their ass handed to them instead.
Fuck neocons.
Fuck you too.
DOLT!
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Quote:Do you really and truly believe Putin's story for why he invaded? Goodness gracious! You are a precious little thing.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ukraine is attacking Russia BECAUSE THE WEST AIMED THEM AT RUSSIA. THAT WAS ALWAYS THE PLAN.
The Kremlin's Occupation Playbook: Coerced Russification and Ethnic Cleansing in Occupied Ukraine
Feb 8, 2024
The war in Ukraine is primarily a war for control of people, not land. Russian President Vladimir Putin has invaded Ukraine twice not mainly because he desires Ukraine’s land, but rather because he seeks to control its people. Putin’s project, explicitly articulated in the 2021 article he published justifying the 2022 full-scale invasion, is the destruction of Ukraine’s distinctive political, social, linguistic, and religious identity.[1] Putin seeks to make real his false ideological conviction that Ukrainians are simply confused Russians with an invented identity, language, and history that a small, Western-backed minority is seeking to impose on the majority of inhabitants. He sees language as one of the primary determinants of ethnicity—Russian speakers, he claims, must be Russians regardless of the state they live in.[2] The Russian Federation has claimed special rights to protect Russians in the former Soviet states since the 1990s, although the Kremlin did not act on those claims until Putin became president.[3] Putin’s aim to destroy Ukrainian identity, language, and culture is thus one of the primary objectives of his entire enterprise.
The stakes of this war thus transcend hectares of land. They include the lives, freedom, and identities of nearly five million Ukrainians currently living under Russian occupation, the nearly five million more whom the Kremlin has illegally deported to Russia and the additional millions who have fled their homeland to other parts of Ukraine or abroad.[4] Dry, abstract, “realist” discussions about pressuring Ukraine to make “concessions”—to “trade land for peace”—ignore the reality of the war. This war is about people as well as land, and Western leaders cannot dismiss the consequences of the policies they pursue and demand.
Russia first experimented with its occupation playbook in 2008 when it invaded Georgia and occupied the Georgian territories of the South Ossetia and Abkhazia “republics.”[5] Russia further developed means and methods of occupation in Ukraine after it invaded and seized Crimea and parts of Donbas in 2014. The international community denounced the 2014 invasion, refused to recognize Russia’s claims to these areas, and heavily sanctioned involved Russian actors.[6] The international response, however, failed to discourage Russia from continuing its occupation of Ukraine and setting conditions for the 2022 full-scale invasion. Russia succeeded in forcing the international community to accept and internalize the 2014 occupation enough that many even in the West now view the 2014 territories as different from the rest of Ukraine.
Russia is now applying these means and methods of occupation on an expanded scale in the Ukrainian territories it occupied since the full-scale invasion that began on February 24, 2022. The Kremlin’s occupation design aims to eliminate Ukrainian identity by forcibly integrating occupied Ukraine into Russia socially, culturally, linguistically, politically, economically, religiously, and bureaucratically. Moscow ultimately seeks to persuade Kyiv and its supporters that the forced integration of Ukraine into Russia, and the resulting elimination of Ukrainian identity, are permanent and irreversible so that the Kremlin can fully subjugate these territories and people for its own gain.
Putin also seeks to use Ukraine as a source of mobilizable manpower in part to address Russia's demographic issues. Russia has been struggling since the beginning of the 1990s with a demographic crisis, caused by declining birthrates, an aging population, low life expectancy (particularly among males of working age), and high levels of emigr
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The propagandized, brainwashed idiot is laughing at the free thinkers.
That's amusing.
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Quote:‘Want to go home’: Nepalis fighting for Russia in Ukraine describe horrors
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The propagandized, brainwashed idiot is laughing at the free thinkers.
That's amusing.
They were lured by the promise of $3,000 paycheques and Russian citizenship. Now they’re trapped, wounded or dead.
By Samik Kharel | 10 Feb 2024
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/2/10/want-to-go-home-nepalis-f
ighting-for-russia-in-ukraine-describe-horrors
On a bitterly cold morning in early January, somewhere near Tokmak city in Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia region, Bimal Bhandari began a risky journey to desert the Russian army he had been serving with. The 32-year-old Nepali national was with another compatriot who also was fighting for the Kremlin, in and against Ukraine.
The two men knew that getting away from the Russians would be a dangerous task, but they concluded that the risk was worth it, when weighed against their chances of survival as soldiers in Moscow’s savage war.
It was three hours before a vehicle arrived. There were no rescuers inside. Instead, it had a Russian border patrol team that handcuffed them and took them in the vehicle. They were jailed for a day, their passports seized before Bhandari was taken to a health facility, suffering from hypothermia.
“It was our one and only chance to escape this brutal war and we failed,” he told Al Jazeera, from his hospital bed. “I do not want to recover – as soon as I get better, I’ll be pushed to the front line.”
It’s a far cry from the hope and promise of a life in Europe that first drew many of the recruits to Moscow’s side.
Three months into the war, Bhandari has not been paid even once.
More at https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2024/2/10/want-to-go-home-nepalis-f
ighting-for-russia-in-ukraine-describe-horrors
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Whatever that bullshit was had nothing to do with my quote.
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Quote:You keep reminding me that you are goddamn fucking stupid. People are telling you in detail that you are a shitty person but you refuse to learn who you are and change your ways of living for the better. Get a job, you worthless asshole. Stop smoking. Stop lying. The Russians are the same. They act horribly, deny they are horrible, and then blame the West, not themselves, for Russians being poor, suffering and short-lived. Putin achieved power by repeatedly telling Russians they are admirable people despite plenty of proof they are lying sacks of shit, lazy, drunken, dishonest, violent fools. Putin keeps telling Russians that it is not their rotten behavior that causes Russia's problems. Nothing is Russia's fault. It is the West's fault.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Whatever that bullshit was had nothing to do with my quote.
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Russian State TV Host Says 'We Are Aggressors and Extremely Evil'
By Ellie Cook | Feb 11, 2024 at 10:17 AM EST
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-state-tv-sergey-mardan-ukraine-1868844
Russian citizens "always come back for what is theirs," a Russian state media host has said, dubbing Moscow's troops the "aggressors" as the grueling war in Ukraine fast approaches its 2-year mark.
The Russian people are "aggressors and extremely evil," Sergey Mardan, said in a clip translated and posted to social media by Anton Gerashchenko, a former adviser to Ukraine's Interior Ministry.
Throughout the war, the Kremlin has framed Ukraine as part of historical Russia. Back in 2021, ahead of Russian forces crossing into Ukraine for Moscow's full-scale invasion, President Vladimir Putin said "Russians and Ukrainians were one people — a single whole."
But Kyiv and many Western analysts describe the war as a fight for survival for Ukraine, with its soldiers battling against cultural erasure.
"They say that we are aggressors and extremely evil, cruel people, and so on," Mardan said, making no distinction between Russian citizens, the military or the government. "I always reply to that: 'Yes, yes, you are right.'"
"Yes, Russians are aggressors; yes, Russians can be cruel and do not forget anything. Russians always come back from what is theirs," Mardan said, according to Gerashchenko's translation.
"Russians don't feel guilty. Russians are not prone to reflection. Russians are engaged in cultural appropriation and don't even understand what it is."
Newsweek has reached out to the Russian Defense Ministry for comment via email.
"We are aggressors, extremely evil, cruel people," Russian propagandist Mardan started telling the truth about Russians out of the blue.
By the way, what do you really think about Russians now? What are the main common national traits you see? https://t.co/UBIHcfsQQY https://t.co/2fgazVKkZF
— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) February 11, 2024
Putin appeared to double down on this well-worn tactic of justifying his country's invasion of Ukraine in his much-examined interview with former Fox News anchor, Tucker Carlson, earlier this week.
"Ukraine is an artificial state," the Russian leader said, according to a Kremlin readout.
"The president of Russia told the Western world as carefully and in detail as possible why there was no Ukraine, there is not and there will not be," former Russian president and current deputy head of the country's security council, Dmitry Medvedev, said in a post to messaging app Telegram.
Russian state media has, throughout the war, amplified similar rhetoric. Mardan, a prominent voice among Kremlin propagandists, has previously claimed being Ukrainian is a "completely deliberate" and political choice.
In a graphic analogy, Mardan then compared claiming Ukrainian identity to "swearing an oath with the devil."
"A person stands in front of the mirror, looks in the mirror, and says, 'I am a Ukrainian.'" Mardan said, according to a translation provided by the Russian Media Monitor project, run by journalist Julia Davis. "He swears some kind of an oath and slits his vein, I don't know all that they do during it."
"You denounce Christ and say, 'Now I am a Ukrainian,'" Mardan said.
"Russia has sought for centuries to sideline and extinguish the Ukrainian language and culture," it has targeted Ukrainian communities within Russia systematically," Rory Finnin, an associate professor of Ukrainian Studies at the University of Cambridge, U.K., told Newsweek in January.
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SECOND, you spew so much bullshit Im surprised there's anything left but an empty husk.
No, I don't "believe Putin". But (unlike you) I DO remember facts.
It has been the west's ambition, since 1917, to destroy, conquer, or partition Russia. Russia is an ideological and military rival. Except for a few brief years when the USA, UK, and Russia allied to fight the Nazi exigency (NO, Russia did NOT start WWII. NO, Russia was NOT an ally of Hitler. NO, the USA did NOT win the war against the Nazis.) we have strived to defeat, contain, collapse, or conquer Russia.
Don't you remember YOUR OWN slavering over an anticipated "decolonization" (i.e. breakup) of Russia?
Your whinges how "unfair" it was that Russia is so resource-rich?
That gleeful hand-rubbing about Russia's hoped for demise?
Your calls to assasinate Putin?
And now you're trying to convince ... anyone ... that it was all a joke?
Dood, your posts are an ACCURATE reflection of neocon intent and tactics since 2000.
Like I said, nobody believes you any more. Not even THUGR. So why do you keep lying? You're only hurting your own psyche by being divided from reality.
Stop that nonstop posting of hate and lies. Come out from your dark and twisted inner space. Get out in the sun and breathe some fresh air. Do something useful.
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Quote:I need to hold on to this one so that Signym can't change a word. Signym, you need a citation for every point you make and you can't use a Russian source.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you spew so much bullshit Im surprised there's anything left but an empty husk.
No, I don't "believe Putin". But (unlike you) I DO remember facts.
It has been the west's ambition, since 1917, to destroy, conquer, or partition Russia. Russia is an ideological and military rival. Except for a few brief years when the USA, UK, and Russia allied to fight the Nazi exigency (NO, Russia did NOT start WWII. NO, Russia was NOT an ally of Hitler. NO, the USA did NOT win the war against the Nazis.) we have strived to defeat, contain, collapse, or conquer Russia.
Don't you remember YOUR OWN slavering over an anticipated "decolonization" (i.e. breakup) of Russia?
Your whinges how "unfair" it was that Russia is so resource-rich?
That gleeful hand-rubbing about Russia's hoped for demise?
Your calls to assasinate Putin?
And now you're trying to convince ... anyone ... that it was all a joke?
Dood, your posts are an ACCURATE reflection of neocon intent and tactics since 2000.
Like I said, nobody believes you any more. Not even THUGR. So why do you keep lying? You're only hurting your own psyche by being divided from reality.
Stop that nonstop posting of hate and lies. Come out from your dark and twisted inner space. Get out in the sun and breathe some fresh air. Do something useful.
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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger
Loving America is like loving an addicted spouse - SIGNYM
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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