Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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But who started this?
Was it Russia's policy and intention to destroy the USA? Or the EU? Was it Russia expanding westward, or NATO expanding eastward? Was it Russia destroying nations in the mideast and central Asia, funding terrorists to attack USA forces or USA territory? Was it Russia that pulled out of nuclear treaties?
Russia has made many attempts to negotiate security arrangements for themselves. They asked to be part of NATO. They signed and stuck to commercial contracts with the west, even as they were being kicked around like a political football, being used as the universal Boogeyman for everything from Trump's Presidency to the DNC email theft (not hack) to the USA getting it's ass kicked in Afghanistan. They stuck to them even as Ukraine was stealing from the pipelines and refusing to pay on their contracts ($3billion). Leading up to the 2014 Ukrainian coup, it was Russia that was willing to enter into a multiparty trade agreement, and the EU, ECB, and IMF who insisted "My way or the highway".
Russia is acting in self defense, and your rabid hatred of Russia is just a small example of why it's necessary. I certainly remember you calling Russians every nasty name in the book and accusing them if every crime ever committed, bemoaning that it wasn't fair that Russia had so many resources and how it should be broken up and made available to the west.
You're just reflecting officially -approved anti-Russian hate speech.
Don't be so surprised if your rabid hate speech is mirrored back to you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
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Quote:. Russia doesn't want to kill American troops officially in Ukraine. If they do, US warhawks and neocons will bray that it's necessary to "protect our interests abroad&
Kremlin: "US & Russia On The Brink Of A Direct Clash" In Ukraine
Monday, Dec 19, 2022 - 12:40 PM
The Kremlin is urgently calling on Washington to avoid further escalation over its support to Ukraine's military, on the same day that President Vladimir Putin made a rare state visit to neighboring Belarus, amid growing fears that Belarusian armed forces could enter the fighting in Ukraine.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said Monday that the United States' "dangerous and short-sighted policy" has put it "on the brink of a direct clash" with Moscow, according to state media reports.
"It is the US’ desire to maintain American hegemony at all costs… as well as its arrogant unwillingness to engage in a serious dialogue on security guarantees" that led to the current crisis, she continued, in reference to Moscow's last February pre-invasion appeal for "guarantees" that Ukraine would not enter NATO.
State media described the sharp words as a necessary reaction to US State Department Spokesman Ned Price's recently placing sole blame on Moscow for the rapid deterioration in US-Russia relations. Price had characterized the current state of relations as "unstable and unpredictable".
Zakharova continued in the Monday remarks: "After the high-profile fiasco in Afghanistan, America is increasingly drawn into a new conflict, not only supporting the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev financially and with weapons, but also increasing its military presence on the ground." While not specifying the precise accusation regarding a US "presence on the ground" - this could be a reference to recent widespread reporting that US intelligence has expanded its role in helping the Ukrainians, especially with things like targeting.
"This is a dangerous and short-sighted policy that puts the US and Russia on the brink of a direct clash," the FM spokesperson said further. "For its part, Moscow urges the Joe Biden administration to soberly assess the situation and not to unleash a spiral of dangerous escalation. We hope that they will hear us in Washington, though there is no reason for optimism so far."
This month has witnessed multiple bombshell revelations concerning the Pentagon and US intelligence's deepening role in Ukraine, including the following:
*The White House is mulling the transfer of Patriot missiles to Ukraine.
*The Pentagon is expanding its "on the ground" program of small troop units seeking to monitor and account for US arms transfers.
*Russia is increasingly coming up against US-supplied HIMARS missiles on the battlefield.
*The US has sent an infantry company to Estonia, close to the Russian border for joint drills.
*Calls have grown louder for NATO to "close the skies" over Ukraine, including with the potential transfer of warplanes.
*US intelligence has been assisting Ukrainians with targeting Russian generals.
*The White House has indicated it believes Ukraine's forces are capable of retaking Crimea, but which would risk a nuclear response.
*Ukraine has increased high-risk attacks inside Russian territory.
Ukraine has also grown bolder in showing off its new American-supplied toys...
All of this and more strongly suggests to two sides are indeed inching toward direct showdown and clash, also as there still appears no appetite for so much as a plan even remotely on the horizon to get Kiev officials to the ceasefire negotiating table with Russia.
As for the ongoing speculation that Belarusian forces could enter the Ukraine conflict in support of Russia, top Russian officials are denying this "option"... for now at least.
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Grim battle for Bakhmut may yield only Pyrrhic victory for Russia
Igor Girkin, a Russian nationalist and former Federal Security Service officer who helped launch the original Donbas war in 2014 and is under U.S. sanctions, said this week he thought his own side's strategy in Bakhmut was "idiotic".
"What will happen next (after the potential Russian capture of Bakhmut)?" Girkin mused in a video, adding the Ukrainians would merely fall back to a second defensive line while continuing to build other defensive lines behind that one.
"It's chewing through the enemy's defences according to the World War One model," said Girkin, arguing that Moscow needed to change battlefield strategy and deploy its forces differently.
Michael Kofman, an expert on the Russian military at the U.S.-based CNA think-tank, said Moscow appeared committed to the battle because of resources it had already spent rather than because of "sound strategy".
"The fighting for Bakhmut is not senseless, but strategically unsound (for Russia) given weak offensive potential and no prospect of breakthrough even if the city is captured," said Kofman.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/analysis-grim-battle-for-bakhmut-
may-yield-only-pyrrhic-victory-for-russia/ar-AA15tUJD
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Quote:What Russia has done to Ukraine is a continuation of its past. Russophiles deny it, but the sad truth is that Russia has murdered approximately 62 million of its citizens. Were they killed out of self-defense, Signym? Russia protecting itself from internal enemies, Signym? No. It was not self-defense.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But who started this?
Was it Russia's policy and intention to destroy the USA? Or the EU? Was it Russia expanding westward, or NATO expanding eastward? Was it Russia destroying nations in the mideast and central Asia, funding terrorists to attack USA forces or USA territory? Was it Russia that pulled out of nuclear treaties?
Russia has made many attempts to negotiate security arrangements for themselves. They asked to be part of NATO. They signed and stuck to commercial contracts with the west, even as they were being kicked around like a political football, being used as the universal Boogeyman for everything from Trump's Presidency to the DNC email theft (not hack) to the USA getting it's ass kicked in Afghanistan. They stuck to them even as Ukraine was stealing from the pipelines and refusing to pay on their contracts ($3billion). Leading up to the 2014 Ukrainian coup, it was Russia that was willing to enter into a multiparty trade agreement, and the EU, ECB, and IMF who insisted "My way or the highway".
Russia is acting in self defense, and your rabid hatred of Russia is just a small example of why it's necessary. I certainly remember you calling Russians every nasty name in the book and accusing them if every crime ever committed, bemoaning that it wasn't fair that Russia had so many resources and how it should be broken up and made available to the west.
You're just reflecting officially -approved anti-Russian hate speech.
Don't be so surprised if your rabid hate speech is mirrored back to you.
Once the Russian state settled on murder as a quick solution to political conflicts, Russians were never the same.
R.J. Rummel, Lethal Politics - Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder since 1917 (Published 1990)
Chapters
1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered, 1917-1987 1
2 3,284,000 Victims: The Civil War Period, 1917-1922 33
3 2,200,000 Victims: The NEP Period 1923-1928 61
4 11,440,000 Victims: The Collectivization Period, 1929-1935 81
5 4,345,000 Victims: The Great Terror Period 1936-1938 109
6 5,104,000 Victims: Pre-World War II Period 1939-June 1941 127
7 13,053,000 Victims: World War II Period, June 1941-1945 151
8 15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953 191
9 6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987 217
While there are estimates of the number of people killed by Soviet authorities during particular episodes or campaigns, until now, no one has tried to calculate the complete human toll of Soviet genocides and mass murders since the revolution of 1917. Here, R. J. Rummel lists and analyzes hundreds of published estimates, presenting them in the historical context in which they occurred. His shocking conclusion is that, conservatively calculated, 61,911,000 people were systematically killed by the Communist regime from 1917 to 1987.
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder/dp/15600
08873/
Download all R.J. Rummel books for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.page/search.php?req=R.J.+Rummel
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Give Ukraine the weapons it needs to defeat Russia quickly
Eric Kramer | December 20, 2022 6:59 am
The moral and strategic importance of a Ukrainian victory seems hard to overstate. A protracted, frozen conflict would be a humanitarian disaster for Ukrainian civilians in Russian occupied areas and war zones, it would lead to continued slaughter of troops on both sides, it would strip Ukraine of critical ports, it would embolden further adventurism by Russia and by China against Taiwan. An extended war might cause or contribute to a worldwide recession. Domestically, stalemate and economic stress would damage Biden’s re-election prospects. Finally, a victory by Russia would damage the confidence of democratic countries and the reputation of liberal democracy around the world, at a time when democracy is very much at risk. A victory by Ukraine would do the opposite.
Victory by Ukraine seems likely but by no means is it assured. Offense is harder than defense, and with its past losses Russia is now defending much shorter lines. Putin seems to be willing to put all his chips on the table. It’s hard to know how truthful Ukraine is being about its supplies of ammunition, but it seems like there are grounds for concern. Faltering support from the United States is still the biggest risk to Ukraine. Although support is holding up so far, it would be a mistake to assume it will last indefinitely. We need to strike while the iron is hot. The risk of failure is too great to settle for half measures.
So what should we do? Many observers are calling for the U.S. and its allies to send more weapons to Ukraine as quickly as possible. Mark Hertling wisely reminds us that our political and military leaders have much more information than we do about a wide range of issues, especially the logistical challenges of delivering and integrating new weapons systems into the Ukrainian army. His warnings are well taken, but it seems clear (i.e., at least in the case of ATACMS) that we are holding back weapons delivers in part for strategic reasons – fear of provoking Russia, or the need to retain our own stocks.
I’m no expert, but this seems misguided to me, given the stakes outlined above.
I also believe that President Biden should give a major speech declaring in a matter-of-fact way that Russia has lost the war, that Ukraine is not a threat to Russia, and that the longer Russia waits to recognize this the more Russian soldiers will die and the more Russian civilians and the Russian economy will suffer. It’s difficult to know how far such a speech will seep behind the Russian information curtain, but it may help Ukraine with its information war. In addition, Putin seems worried about his political standing and a clear speech by Biden combined with accelerated arms deliveries may help convince Putin that it’s time to quit.
https://angrybearblog.com/2022/12/give-ukraine-the-weapons-it-needs-to
-defeat-russia-quickly
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But who started this?
Was it Russia's policy and intention to destroy the USA? Or the EU? Was it Russia expanding westward, or NATO expanding eastward? Was it Russia destroying nations in the mideast and central Asia, funding terrorists to attack USA forces or USA territory? Was it Russia that pulled out of nuclear treaties?
Russia has made many attempts to negotiate security arrangements for themselves. They asked to be part of NATO. They signed and stuck to commercial contracts with the west, even as they were being kicked around like a political football, being used as the universal Boogeyman for everything from Trump's Presidency to the DNC email theft (not hack) to the USA getting it's ass kicked in Afghanistan. They stuck to them even as Ukraine was stealing from the pipelines and refusing to pay on their contracts ($3billion). Leading up to the 2014 Ukrainian coup, it was Russia that was willing to enter into a multiparty trade agreement, and the EU, ECB, and IMF who insisted "My way or the highway".
Russia is acting in self defense, and your rabid hatred of Russia is just a small example of why it's necessary. I certainly remember you calling Russians every nasty name in the book and accusing them if every crime ever committed, bemoaning that it wasn't fair that Russia had so many resources and how it should be broken up and made available to the west.
You're just reflecting officially -approved anti-Russian hate speech.
Don't be so surprised if your rabid hate speech is mirrored back to you.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake
The only reason that Russia became an "enemy" again is because the woke kids graduated and got into positions of power and they needed a white Big Bad instead of brown or Asian ones.
I've got no problem with Russia. They're not the ones constantly lying to me like my current political leaders, the alphabet agencies of my own country, and the bought and paid for propaganda machine that calls themselves the "news" do.
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Quote:Russians had a choice. Either be prosperous like South Korea or belligerent like North Korea. Russians went the North way. Unlike North Korea, Russians didn't have enough common sense and invaded the country south of them. The North Koreans did not invade although they can make a much stronger case that South Korea is part of North Korea than the Russians can make the case that Ukraine is part of Russia.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The only reason that Russia became an "enemy" again is because the woke kids graduated and got into positions of power and they needed a white Big Bad instead of brown or Asian ones.
I've got no problem with Russia. They're not the ones constantly lying to me like my current political leaders, the alphabet agencies of my own country, and the bought and paid for propaganda machine that calls themselves the "news" do.
Comparison of the nominal gross domestic product (GDP) between South Korea and North Korea from 2010 to 2021
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035390/south-korea-gdp-comparison
-with-north-korea/
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.
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Quote:Russians and North Koreans and Trump voters do the same as you do, e.g. "BLAH BLAH BLAH", when they are contradicted. Their belligerent closed-mindedness has made their lives crazier and poorer. Their choices equal their lives.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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