Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, November 2, 2022 11:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Again, Russia threatens to nuke the world:
Medvedev says only Russian victory in Ukraine will prevent «global war» provoked by West

The former president of Russia and current vice president of the Security Council, Dmitry Medvedev, has accused Western powers of pushing the world towards a "global war" that can only be avoided with a Russian victory in the conflict in Ukraine.

Did he say "victory with nukes"?

NO, HE DIDN'T.

*****
BTW, western countries ARE pushing WWIII.

The USA is threatening with nukes. First, it dropped out of almost every nuclear treaty negotiated with ... everyone

Intermediate range
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/1924779/us-w
ithdraws-from-intermediate-range-nuclear-forces-treaty/

Anti-ballistic weapons
https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002-07/news/us-withdraws-abm-treaty-g
lobal-response-muted

Open skies
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/22/politics/us-withdrawal-open-skies/index
.html

JCPOA
https://www.worldecr.com/news/president-trump-pulls-us-jcpoa/

Then, it recently publicly revealed rescinding its "no first use" nuclear policy. Now it will consider using nukes for non-nuclear threats.

Then, it started openly considering placing nukes in Finland.

Now, it has stationed nuclear-capable B52 bombers in Australia, threatening China.

All of this says that our conventional military really is a "paper tiger" once our air superiority is eliminated, and that all we have to fall back on is our nuclear weapons. doubly so, since we seem intent on fighting (proxy, hybrid, hot) wars on two fronts.

Yanno, our neocons are idiots and they seem intent on destroying not only Europe but the EU, and -potentially- the entire world.

But I'm sure Bill Gates will come out fine, since he owns the big seed bank in Svarlbard, and lots of nice USA farmland.
https://www.voltairenet.org/article162545.html

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

SECOND

Wednesday, November 2, 2022 11:17 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Did he say "victory with nukes"?

NO, HE DIDN'T.

*****
BTW, western countries ARE pushing WWIII.

Russian State TV Guest Admits Country 'Underestimated' U.S.

By Gerrard Kaonga On 11/1/22

A professor at Moscow State University has admitted that Russia underestimated U.S. resolve as he urged the Kremlin to set clearly defined goals for the war in Ukraine.

The comments by Andrey Sidorov, deputy dean of world politics at the university, have gone viral on social media. A video of Sidorov discussing the war on Russian state TV, posted on Monday by the Daily Beast's Julia Davis, has already been viewed more than 200,000 times.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/status/1587140730602004482
"Meanwhile in Russia: Top Kremlin propagandists ponder what their victory would look like and express their gratitude to Trump and the coronavirus for allowing their economy to survive the sanctions and be able to handle Russia's invasion of Ukraine," Davis wrote as a caption to the video.

In the clip, Sidorov calls on Russia to set realistic war goals and makes clear that Russia taking on the United States should not be one of them. He admitted that Moscow had been taken by surprise by the West's unity in resisting Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

"What do we currently perceive as our victory? With respect to the special military operation, it's simple," he said, saying it would be the "liberation" of the four Ukrainian regions that President Vladimir Putin has annexed. "We've even exceeded the plan."

"We say that we are fighting against the West and NATO, so is our goal to take Brussels? We should clearly define our victory over the West."

"I don't think our victory means to take Washington," he said, adding that this would entail "destroying half the planet in the process."

"I think that our main goal is to conclude the special military operation," he said, using the Russian term for the Ukraine war.

He also suggested that Donald Trump's term as president, and even the COVID pandemic, had given Russia a breathing space to prepare its economy for the wave of sanctions it is facing now over the Ukraine war.

"Trump gave us four years, realistically, having shot down all sanctions, Trump had given us four years to get ready for what is happening right now."

"If it was Hillary Clinton, I am 100 per cent convinced everything would have started four years ago."

During his term in office, Trump often appeared reluctant to increase sanctions on Russia, though he did sign into law sanctions agreed by Congress.

Sidorov said Russia was doing a lot to improve its war effort and had concluded the draft of reservists, but he conceded "perhaps we underestimated the adversary."

"No one anticipated such a consolidation of the West and that Americans would be able to pull it off."

He went on to discuss the confidence Russia felt about the political turmoil in America around the 2020 election.

"[We said] 'Oh, they're about to fall apart. The reds vs the blues, 24 states against 26 states. Some governors are Republican, some are Democrats.

"First, we have to win within our country and then we can talk about defeating them.

"According to all indications, the U.S. is economically preparing to become the great arsenal of democracy," he said.

Sidorov also highlighted his concerns of Russia falling behind the U.S. and China in an arms race in the coming years as he emphasized the importance of economic growth.
(The Russian economy is smaller than the Canadian economy.
https://www.worlddata.info/country-comparison.php?country1=CAN&cou
ntry2=RUS )

"In the foreseeable future, what the president has been saying for 10 years, what is coming in the years 2030-2035 is the conclusion of all rearmament programs, both the American and Chinese,"

SIGNYM

Wednesday, November 2, 2022 11:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Did he say "victory with nukes"?

NO, HE DIDN'T.

*****
BTW, western countries ARE pushing WWIII.
Russian State TV Guest Admits Country 'Underestimated' U.S.

By Gerrard Kaonga On 11/1/22

A professor at Moscow State University has admitted that Russia underestimated U.S. resolve as he urged the Kremlin to set clearly defined goals for the war in Ukraine.

What does this have to do with Russia using nukes? Even the person they are quoting has ruled that out.
We haven't, tho. we specifically ruled that IN.

Everything you say that Russia is doing, WE'RE doing. Our conventional military has deteriorated over the years due to lobbyists, the Pentagon, and Congress looking at our military budget as a giant piggybank.

All we have left is nukes. BTW, it was TRUMP who was pushing for a revival of our conventional military and said we should spend more money on it. He said, correctly, that it had been allowed to deteriorate. I didn't believe him at the time. I thought he was blowing a big wet appeasing kiss to the MICC, but he was right.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

SECOND

Wednesday, November 2, 2022 11:57 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Did he say "victory with nukes"?

NO, HE DIDN'T.

*****
BTW, western countries ARE pushing WWIII.
Russian State TV Guest Admits Country 'Underestimated' U.S.

By Gerrard Kaonga On 11/1/22

A professor at Moscow State University has admitted that Russia underestimated U.S. resolve as he urged the Kremlin to set clearly defined goals for the war in Ukraine.
What does this have to do with Russia using nukes? Even the person they are quoting has ruled that out.
We haven't, tho. we specifically ruled that IN.

Everything you say that Russia is doing, WE'RE doing.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

Classic case of Whataboutism, Signym. There have been occasions where some Russian cog in the machine decided that he would not launch missiles against the USA. There is nobody with a conscience like that working for the Pentagon, which is why Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked. The Russians should keep clearly in mind that America is far more dangerous to Russia than Russia is to America. America is a killing machine, a Terminator. Russians should worry that if Russia pushes the start button on the Terminator, there is no stop button to shut it down.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/the-man-who-saved-the-world-about-thi
s-episode/871/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Thursday, November 3, 2022 12:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Did he say "victory with nukes"?
NO, HE DIDN'T.

*****
BTW, western countries ARE pushing WWIII.

SECOND: Russian State TV Guest Admits Country 'Underestimated' U.S.
By Gerrard Kaonga On 11/1/22
A professor at Moscow State University has admitted that Russia underestimated U.S. resolve as he urged the Kremlin to set clearly defined goals for the war in Ukraine.

SIGNYM: What does this have to do with Russia using nukes? Even the person they are quoting has ruled that out.
We haven't, tho. we specifically ruled that IN.
Everything you say that Russia is doing, WE'RE doing.

SECOND: Classic case of Whataboutism, Signym.

No, and YOU disprove this in your very next sentences

Quote:
SECOND: There have been occasions where some Russian cog in the machine decided that he would not launch missiles against the USA. There is nobody with a conscience like that working for the Pentagon, which is why Hiroshima and Nagasaki were nuked. The Russians should keep clearly in mind that America is far more dangerous to Russia than Russia is to America. America is a killing machine, a Terminator. Russians should worry that if Russia pushes the start button on the Terminator, there is no stop button to shut it down.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/the-man-who-saved-the-world-about-thi
s-episode/871/

Oh, so now YOU'RE the one threatening the world with USA nukes?

Then will you PLEASE get off that hobby-horse of yours about how "Russia" is threatening the world???

Or, yanno, at least decide WHAT it is that you want to believe?

Because you post contradictory posts on most topics, which is what liars do when caught in a lie (change the story).

You've got scrambled eggs for brains, SECOND. You can't even keep your stories straight. R U sure you're not drunk-posting?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

SECOND

Thursday, November 3, 2022 12:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, so now YOU'RE the one threatening the world with USA nukes?

Then will you PLEASE get off that hobby-horse of yours about how "Russia" is threatening the world???

Or, yanno, at least decide WHAT it is that you want to believe?

Because you post contradictory posts on most topics, which is what liars do when caught in a lie (change the story).

You've got scrambled eggs for brains, SECOND. You can't even keep your stories straight. R U sure you're not drunk-posting?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

I assume you are incapable of directly understanding the concept. I will try indirect. America is a million volt power line. Russians threaten to touch the power line, daring the power line to kill them. The power line won't change voltage and shut itself down just because the Russians threaten to shock the power line with their own 50 hertz 200 kV line in retaliation for killing a Russian who dares touch the American power line. The Russians have seen the Warning sign that says "Danger! 1,000,000 Volts!" If the Russians are waiting for somebody to stop them before they do something fatal, the Russians will wait forever. The Russians should pay attention to Warning signs from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

In case you still don't understand, Signym: The United States conducted 1,054 atomic tests — costing more than $100 billion and taking an incalculable toll on humans and the environment.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/us-nuclear-testings
-devastating-legacy-lingers-30-years-later

If America would do that to Americans and American land in order to be absolutely certain its nukes work as designed, think about what America would do to Russia, Signym.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Thursday, November 3, 2022 12:46 AM

Quote:
Ukraine Civilians Wait In Long Lines For Fresh Water As Infrastructure Destroyed
Wednesday, Nov 02, 2022 - 02:45 AM

There is an old lesson of warfare that says "never believe your own propaganda."

After the initial Russian strikes against Ukraine's power grids and infrastructure the general narrative was that Russian cruise missiles and drones were ineffective, inaccurate and that the country's utilities would be back up and running in no time. The message was [reminiscent] of previous propaganda out of Ukraine [and the USA- SIGNY] which requires constant theatrics of impending victory. As long as they act as if they are winning, billions in NATO dollars will continue to flow.

Russian tactics were decidedly restrained in the early months of the conflict, with the Kremlin mostly avoiding precision attacks on vital resources, including power, water and internet. This is a departure from traditional military doctrine, which the US followed when it invaded Iraq and decimated vast segments of their grid utilities at the onset of the war.

The Russian pull-back to lines in the Donbas region was a clear indication that their strategy was about to change and that wider strikes were inevitable.

Now, Ukraine's grid amenities are being systematically destroyed, and it is reported that Ukrainians in major cities like Kyiv are lining up for blocks daily just to fill a few meager jugs with fresh water at city well pumps.

The lack of access to utilities changes the dynamics of the war drastically.

With winter looming, millions of civilians will face cold months without electric heat, light or easy access to water and food.

The predictable end result of this will likely be a flood of refugees into Europe.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-civilians-wait-long-lin
es-fresh-water-infrastructure-destroyed

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

SIGNYM

Thursday, November 3, 2022 12:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, so now YOU'RE the one threatening the world with USA nukes?

Then will you PLEASE get off that hobby-horse of yours about how "Russia" is threatening the world???

Or, yanno, at least decide WHAT it is that you want to believe?

Because you post contradictory posts on most topics, which is what liars do when caught in a lie (change the story).

You've got scrambled eggs for brains, SECOND. You can't even keep your stories straight. R U sure you're not drunk-posting?

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

I assume you are incapable of directly understanding the concept. I will try indirect. America is a million volt power line. Russians threaten to touch the power line, daring the power line to kill them. The power line won't change voltage and shut itself down just because the Russians threaten to shock the power line with their own 50 hertz 200 kV line in retaliation for killing a Russian who dares touch the American power line. The Russians have seen the Warning sign that says "Danger! 1,000,000 Volts!" If the Russians are waiting for somebody to stop them before they do something fatal, the Russians will wait forever. The Russians should pay attention to Warning signs from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

In case you still don't understand, Signym: The United States conducted 1,054 atomic tests — costing more than $100 billion and taking an incalculable toll on humans and the environment.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/us-nuclear-testings
-devastating-legacy-lingers-30-years-later

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

After having accused Russia of threatening with nukes, SECOND once again threatens the world with USA nukes.

Almost as good as WISHY wanting to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" for "freedom".

Y'all a bunch of nutbags, SECOND.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

SECOND

Thursday, November 3, 2022 1:31 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

After having accused Russia of threatening with nukes, SECOND once again threatens the world with USA nukes.

Unlike Putin, I command no nukes. You are a fool, Signym, or you naturally get things backward about who is the threat.

You and ZeroHedge got this backward, too:

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

The message was [reminiscent] of previous propaganda out of Ukraine [and the USA- SIGNY] which requires constant theatrics of impending victory. As long as they act as if they are winning, billions in NATO dollars will continue to flow.

If Ukraine is losing it will receive more dollars worth of ammo and weapons than if it has an impending victory. How would that work? More money is charitably sent to major disasters than to minor disasters. In that way, wars are not different than natural disasters. Wars are like a rampaging flood that never ends or an earthquake where the ground doesn't stop shaking or a hurricane that stays around for months. War is thus unnatural.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

THG

Thursday, November 3, 2022 4:20 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, so now YOU'RE the one threatening the world with USA nukes?

Then will you PLEASE get off that hobby-horse of yours about how "Russia" is threatening the world???

Or, yanno, at least decide WHAT it is that you want to believe?

Because you post contradictory posts on most topics, which is what liars do when caught in a lie (change the story).

You've got scrambled eggs for brains, SECOND. You can't even keep your stories straight. R U sure you're not drunk-posting?

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

I assume you are incapable of directly understanding the concept. I will try indirect. America is a million volt power line. Russians threaten to touch the power line, daring the power line to kill them. The power line won't change voltage and shut itself down just because the Russians threaten to shock the power line with their own 50 hertz 200 kV line in retaliation for killing a Russian who dares touch the American power line. The Russians have seen the Warning sign that says "Danger! 1,000,000 Volts!" If the Russians are waiting for somebody to stop them before they do something fatal, the Russians will wait forever. The Russians should pay attention to Warning signs from Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

In case you still don't understand, Signym: The United States conducted 1,054 atomic tests — costing more than $100 billion and taking an incalculable toll on humans and the environment.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/us-nuclear-testings
-devastating-legacy-lingers-30-years-later

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

After having accused Russia of threatening with nukes, SECOND once again threatens the world with USA nukes.

Almost as good as WISHY wanting to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" for "freedom".

Y'all a bunch of nutbags, SECOND.

T

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