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Arabian Prince ordered killing of an American resident. This complicates the Trump’s efforts to preserve his relationship with Saudi Arabia, but I'm sure he can pretend he does not believe it is true or that he wasn't informed by the CIA. Playing dumb is all part of the Art of the Con by Donald Trump.
In reaching its conclusions, the CIA examined multiple sources of intelligence, including a phone call that the prince’s brother Khalid bin Salman, the Saudi ambassador to the United States, had with Khashoggi, according to the people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the intelligence. Khalid told Khashoggi, a contributing columnist to The Washington Post, that he should go to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul to retrieve the documents and gave him assurances that it would be safe to do so.
It is not clear if Khalid knew that Khashoggi would be killed, but he made the call at his brother’s direction, according to the people familiar with the call, which was intercepted by U.S. intelligence.
More at www.theguardian.com/world/2018/nov/16/cia-determines-saudi-crown-princ
e-ordered-journalists-killing-washington-post
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:What are you suppose to learn? That your judgment is no damn good. Good luck with the rest of your life, and that applies to the 42% of Americans who still approve of Trump, because you people are going to need luck if you can't understand how Trump is screwing you. You will be so very lucky if you don't get screwed by a hundred other American con-men in the same way Trump is cheating you.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just what is it that I'm supposed to learn from Second here?
He's not answering the question.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
"There's a sucker/Trump-voter born every minute" -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute
Trump is not America’s first showman turned politician.
One Trump role model, the 19th-century entrepreneurial egotist P.T. Barnum, parlayed his fame as a bigmouth impresario into actual political power, serving two terms in the Connecticut legislature and one term as the mayor of Bridgeport. Having labeled himself “a bit of a P.T. Barnum, I make stars out of everyone,” Trump should learn from his self-promoting predecessor. For all his shenanigans as the ultimate flimflam man, Phineas T. Barnum was one classy, downright idealistic, politician.
More at "P.T. Barnum Makes Trump Look Like a Clown" www.thedailybeast.com/pt-barnum-makes-trump-look-like-a-clown
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I see what the problem here is. You're a Partiest. It's like a racist, but with political parties instead.
Your single example of why I should vote against Trump is that the tax returns didn't benefit me, when I laid out how I got a 6% boost in pay because of them. It's not much, but then again I don't make much either.
You're on the right track when it comes to money. My biggest argument against Trump is the same argument I had about both Obama and GWB in that they are horrible shepherds of our "wealth" as a nation.
There's a lot of other reasons that I voted for Trump, however, and Hillary Clinton's disgusting ass is one of them. Put up a real candidate, for starters, then start throwing extremists like Antifa out of your party for making you all look so terrible.
CNN actually started the ball rolling on the latter and called out Antifa for the violent fringe movement that it is.
You have absolutely nothing to teach me Second if your only lesson is "Vote Democrat or you're dumb".
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Originally posted by second:
Good luck with the rest of your life, and that applies to the 42% of Americans who still approve of Trump, because you people are going to need luck if you can't understand how Trump is screwing you.
And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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I want the democrats to be better. I want them to tell me their plan to improve not just my life, but the lives of all the people in the country who work for a living. I want them to explain how they'll move the Doomsday Clock back from 2 minutes till midnight. I want them to propose laws that demonstrate they'll buck tptb to stop global warming.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SECOND
I want the democrats to be better. I want them to tell me their plan to improve not just my life, but the lives of all the people in the country who work for a living. I want them to explain how they'll move the Doomsday Clock back from 2 minutes till midnight. I want them to propose laws that demonstrate they'll buck tptb to stop global warming.
THIS
Simply screaming "Russia!" or "Trump is a Nazi!" is not a valid political platform.
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Quote:That's nice. But that is like wishing for The Cure for Cancer. Nobody knows how. They can knock off a few pieces of the problem with surgery, radiation, chemo, but they can't solve more than a little of a big problem that is built into humans. Much more helpful, you can tell people to stop smoking and stop eating that terrible diet that they are shoving in their mouths, and some of the problems of cancer will be solved, but people won't stop. Instead, they want a magic pill. It is the same with their politics. They want magical, easy solutions that don't cost them money and don't require effort from them or else they are switching their vote or refusing to vote or are throwing a tantrum.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
SECOND
I want the democrats to be better. I want them to tell me their plan to improve not just my life, but the lives of all the people in the country who work for a living. I want them to explain how they'll move the Doomsday Clock back from 2 minutes till midnight. I want them to propose laws that demonstrate they'll buck tptb to stop global warming.
If the Democrats offer a very real 50% solution, a partial solution, and the Republicans offer a very false 100% solution, Americans split the difference between the two parties and get disgusted with both parties because nobody is giving them 100% of what they want. They want a magic pill in the form of a vote once every four years. They sure as hell don't want to pay the cost for climate control or anything else. If the Democrats ask Americans to burn less fossil fuel, the majority of Americans will vote for Republicans because the GOP won't ask because the GOP has a magical solution that doesn't cost money. A majority of Americans (D, R, or Independent) are delusional about how difficult it is to actually solve real problems. From their childish delusions all the chaos of American politics arises.
Personally, I am willing to take a half a loaf from the Democrats, because they deliver their partial solutions: Social Security, Medicare, smaller deficits, cleaner air. But I am attracted by the GOP's low taxes on the wealthy. I vote for Democrats but I will take the millions the GOP dumps into my bank account. Trump loves me because I am like him, while Hillary would have raised my taxes, expecting me to make a small sacrifice for a balanced budget.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-13/u-s-budget-deficit-swells-t
o-898-billion-topping-forecast
"Deficit in first 11 months of Fiscal Year 2018 rises by a third vs year ago"
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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lol
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Quote:I remember you were expecting great things from voting for Trump. I got what I expected: a big tax cut designed to benefit Trump and me. I'm eager to see him make real the other signature Trump policies: kicking 22 million illegal aliens out, the Wall, denuclearizing N Korea and Iran, bringing millions of factory jobs from China to America, Trump-care far better than Obamacare, but since those other policies don't benefit Trump's bank account, I'm not betting my money those will happen. He and the GOP will make noises, make empty claims, not perform, and as always, blame the Democrats.
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol
Oh, and because there will be at least 34 GOP Senators and 5 GOP Supreme Court Justices and hundreds of GOP Federal judges, the GOP will be able to sabotage anything Democrats do. Then the GOP can blame the Democrats for the GOP's sabotage. Perfection!
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:Bullshit. Once again you're arguing with the voices in your head.
I remember you were expecting great things from voting for Trump.
Here's a plan, SECOND: If you want to argue with Texas Republicans, argue with them there. There aren't any over here.
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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake
"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
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Yeah. Pretty much bullshit right there.
I dunno. My memory is a little foggy pre-election since I was twoards the end of my drinking days and the most out of control at that time. Maybe I did say something along those lines. It could have been dead serious or it could have been trolling. I'd have to be presented with quotes that weren't taken out of context.
I certainly wouldn't have voted for Hillary had I been sober. 2 years later and I still know that I made the right choice.
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