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Friday, November 23, 2018 9:24 PM

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Originally posted by second: American politics are ridiculous because the majority of American voters are ridiculous people.


Your use of the word "ridiculous" is charitable - must be the holiday spirit.
And that's just the half of the population that bothers to vote!

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Friday, November 23, 2018 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by second:

What war? Obama couldn't shutdown the Afghanistan War because of the majority of dumbass American voters wanted to "win" in Afghanistan.



https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-obama-at-war/

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2017/01/18/commentary/world-comme
ntary/obama-war-peace/#.W_gqKuJMG70


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In truth, Obama, like Bush, paid little heed to international law — or even American law — when it came in the way of his overseas military operations.

For example, Obama did not seek U.N. or U.S. congressional authorization before launching an air war in Syria. In fact, he speciously justified his bombing campaign in Syria by relying on the unrelated congressional authority that Bush secured to go after those who “planned, authorized, committed or aided” the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

The 2011 U.S.-led operation against Libya’s Moammar Gadhafi began as a supposed humanitarian mission, only to quickly turn into a regime-change exercise, whose success quickly bred chaos and mayhem in Libya. Although goaded into the Libyan operation by his hawkish secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, Obama will be remembered in history for demolishing Libya in the same way that Bush unraveled Iraq. The collapse of the Libyan state has created a jihadist citadel at Europe’s southern doorstep.

Obama’s CIA-led regime-change operation in Syria, although unsuccessful, contributed to plunging another secular Muslim autocracy into jihadist upheaval.

Obama indeed presided over the birth of the most potent terrorist organization in modern history — Islamic State — which still controls large tracts of territory in Syria and Iraq even 29 months after Obama began an air war against it. As U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry has admitted, the Obama team viewed the rise of IS as a possibly useful development to overthrow Syrian President Bashar Assad, only to see it grow into a monster.








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And when did Hillary threaten to nuke Russia? Did she make a Fire and Fury declaration like Trump did against N Korea? She did not. American politics are ridiculous because the majority of American voters are ridiculous people.









https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/nov/26/susan-sarandon-i-thought-
hillary-was-very-dangerous-if-shed-won-wed-be-at-war




Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, November 23, 2018 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by second:I have been following politics for about 66 years.


How old are you? I'v seen 70 sumthing mentioned, but wuz skeptical. The vage quazi-imaj I hav uv you iz in the 'upper midl ajed hed uv spy ajensy' stereotype wich can be male or female.

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...On 9/11 I was reminded that the majority of voting Americans, obviously NOT me nor everybody, are a bunch of panicky idiots, prone to getting angry but completely confused when directing it at the correct target. The majority ABSOLUTELY CANNOT figure out the correct people to blame...but I have since lowered my expectations.


Even tho I realized humanz are idiots way bak in grammar skool, I seem to need to re-ajust my expectationz downward several timez a yir az new stooopid events happen.

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It is why Republican Congressmen can teardown progress made by Democrats. The majority of voters are too stupid to understand what happened and who to blame. The GOP knows that the Democratic Congressmen will get as much blame as the GOP Congressmen for what only the GOP did.


The GoPs hav tapped into the power uv stupid. Even tho it iz horrendously inefficient, its about 1,000 timez more massiv than the power uv intellijens, so usually winz the boxing match.

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Saturday, November 24, 2018 12:00 AM

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Originally posted by JO753:

The GoPs hav tapped into the power uv stupid. Even tho it iz horrendously inefficient, its about 1,000 timez more massiv than the power uv intellijens, so usually winz the boxing match.



But! But! Hillary won the popular vote!!!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

But! But! Hillary won the popular vote!!!

But! But! Obama killed Muammar Gaddafi (except he didn't) which means Obama gave birth to ISIS (except he didn't). Ask a Trump voter about who is responsible for what wicked people worldwide do and the answer is Obama! Obama! making the point that Trump voters understand the State Department and Pentagon and CIA as poorly as they do the Federal Reserve Board and HUD and FDIC.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:06 PM

There is a divergence in health care destinies, depending on states’ political orientation.

www.nytimes.com/2018/11/22/opinion/democrats-obamacare-states.html

In 2013, before Obamacare went into effect, California had an above-average rate of uninsurance: 17.2 percent of its population was uncovered. North Carolina did somewhat better, with “only” 15.6 percent uninsured. But as of last year, the uninsured rate in California had fallen 10 points, to 7.2 percent, while North Carolina’s rate was still above 10 percent.

What made the difference? Solid-blue California, with a Democratic governor and Legislature, did all it could to make Obamacare work: It expanded Medicaid, operated its own marketplace and made major efforts to get people signed up. North Carolina, under Republican rule, did none of these things.

And the importance of state-level action has only increased in the past two years, as the Trump administration and its congressional allies, unable to fully repeal Obamacare, have nonetheless done all they can to sabotage it. They eliminated the individual mandate, which pushed people to sign up while they were still healthy; they eliminated reinsurance that helped insurance companies manage their own risk; they cut back drastically on outreach.

All of these measures acted to drive premiums up and enrollment down. But states can, if they choose, fill the Trump-size hole.

The most dramatic example of how this can be done is New Jersey, where Democrats gained full control at the end of 2017 and promptly created state-level versions of both the mandate and reinsurance. The results were impressive: New Jersey’s premiums for 2019 are 9.3 percent lower than for 2018, and are now well below the national average. Undoing Trumpian sabotage seems to have saved the average buyer around $1,500 a year.

Now that Democrats have won control of multiple states, they can and should emulate New Jersey’s example, and move beyond it if they can. Why not, for example, introduce state-level public options — actuarially sound government plans — as alternatives to private insurance?

The point is that while the new House majority won’t be able to do much beyond defending Obamacare, at least for now, its allies in the states can do much more, and in the process deliver on the agenda the whole party ran on this year.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:10 PM

New report says Climate change will cost the U.S. economy hundreds of billions of dollars. Per Year.

"Believe me, it won’t." – Trump’s response.

Just this week, he mocked the science of climate change because of a cold snap in the Northeast, tweeting, “Whatever happened to Global Warming?”

www.reuters.com/article/us-climate-change-usa/clashing-with-trump-u-s-
government-report-says-climate-change-will-batter-economy-idUSKCN1NS19D


Trump has been rolling back Obama-era environmental and climate protections to maximize production of domestic fossil fuels, including crude oil, already the highest production in the world, above Saudi Arabia and Russia.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:20 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

But! But! Hillary won the popular vote!!!

But! But! Obama killed Muammar Gaddafi (except he didn't) which means Obama gave birth to ISIS (except he didn't). Ask a Trump voter about who is responsible for what wicked people worldwide do and the answer is Obama! Obama! making the point that Trump voters understand the State Department and Pentagon and CIA as poorly as they do the Federal Reserve Board and HUD and FDIC.



He made a bunch of promises he didn't keep. You can't deny that.

Nobel Peace prize. What a laugh.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, November 24, 2018 6:47 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

He made a bunch of promises he didn't keep. You can't deny that.

Nobel Peace prize. What a laugh.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Obama made promises. The GOP listened closely and did their worst to make him fail.



Remember Guantanamo? Obama promised to shut it down and the GOP fought him every step.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/01/why-obama-has-failed-to-close-gu
antanamo


If Obama wanted to kill fewer people? The GOP wanted more civilians dead, and fought Obama every step against killing less. If he had tried to completely shutdown the stupidest wars in history, the GOP would ignite a political firestorm that would burn forever. All Obama's GOP Generals would eventually be voting for Trump. Did you notice how many delighted Generals were placed on Trump's staff? Trump is working toward justifying an invasion of Iran, as Bush worked for invading Iraq.

www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-22638533


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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THG
Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:16 PM

On the money SECOND, on the money. We have had to live in the world of propaganda as far as the republicans go. In the courts though they've convicted none of those they've accused. They've overturned none of the laws they have promised if it takes a favorable court ruling to do so. Why, because lies don't win court cases.

Then there's now. The courts have been convicting the accused because you win court cases with the truth. We hear fake news until Mueller indicts. Have you noticed that that is Stones defense now. Before charges are even filed he is saying it's all fake.

tick tock

T


Hey, you guys know what white supremacist hate more than Jews, Polaks. Who here fits that description? kiki and sig to name two. Who loves the Polak hater Trump, kiki and sig to name two.

Fucking dummies

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