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Friday, February 16, 2018 6:47 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

So, you clarify that Nixon did not announce that he was guilty.
And Ford also did not announce that Nixon was guilty.
Logic fail much?
You failed. Twice.

Incorrect, JewelStaiteFan, you stupid fucker. Nixon quite elegantly declared himself guilty with his resignation, the moment when he boarded Marine One and waved goodbye forever. The speech the night before his helicopter ride was simply the misdirection used by a great magician to confuse the audience. Nixon's assistant in this magic act, Gerald Ford, would finish the trick by pardoning Nixon. See how clever the two are? Convincing the audience that a upstanding and innocent man left Washington D.C. for the good of the country, not because Nixon was covered from head to toe with guilty shit.

And who can forget the greatest Nixon magic trick of all? Converting treason in 1968 into election day victory:
www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-viet
nam-treason


Believe me, I'm not a crook.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, February 16, 2018 8:12 AM

lol. Another F Bomb by Second.

Somebody should start keeping score.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 16, 2018 9:26 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, you clarify that Nixon did not announce that he was guilty.
And Ford also did not announce that Nixon was guilty.
Logic fail much?
You failed. Twice.

Incorrect, JewelStaiteFan, you stupid fucker. Nixon quite elegantly... waved goodbye forever.

And who can forget the greatest Nixon magic trick of all? Converting treason in 1968 into election day victory:
www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-viet
nam-treason


Can't get past your paywall. No idea what you are on about for 1968, when Nixon held no public office.

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Friday, February 16, 2018 4:43 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
So, you clarify that Nixon did not announce that he was guilty.
And Ford also did not announce that Nixon was guilty.
Logic fail much?
You failed. Twice.

Incorrect, JewelStaiteFan, you stupid fucker. Nixon quite elegantly... waved goodbye forever.

And who can forget the greatest Nixon magic trick of all? Converting treason in 1968 into election day victory:
www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-viet
nam-treason


Can't get past your paywall. No idea what you are on about for 1968, when Nixon held no public office.

I see no paywall, JewelStaiteFan. Since you're too stupid to click a link, I will post it. And then I expect the standard Republican responses from you will be to deny it happened or minimize it as nothing or to not even understand it:

George Will Confirms Nixon's Vietnam Treason

by Bob Fitrakis, Harvey Wasserman

Richard Nixon was a traitor.

The new release of extended versions of Nixon's papers now confirms this long-standing belief, usually dismissed as a "conspiracy theory" by Republican conservatives. Now it has been substantiated by none other than right-wing columnist George Will.

Nixon's newly revealed records show for certain that in 1968, as a presidential candidate, he ordered Anna Chennault, his liaison to the South Vietnam government, to persuade them to refuse a cease-fire being brokered by President Lyndon Johnson.

Nixon's interference with these negotiations violated President John Adams's 1797 Logan Act, banning private citizens from intruding into official government negotiations with a foreign nation.

Published as the 40th Anniversary of Nixon's resignation approaches, Will's column confirms that Nixon feared public disclosure of his role in sabotaging the 1968 Vietnam peace talks. Will says Nixon established a "plumbers unit" to stop potential leaks of information that might damage him, including documentation that he believed was held by the Brookings Institute, a liberal think tank. The Plumbers' later break-in at the Democratic National Committee led to the Watergate scandal that brought Nixon down.

Nixon's sabotage of the Vietnam peace talks was confirmed by transcripts of FBI wiretaps. On November 2, 1968, LBJ received an FBI report saying Chernnault told the South Vietnamese ambassador that "she had received a message from her boss: saying the Vietnamese should "hold on, we are gonna win."

As Will confirms, Vietnamese did "hold on," the war proceeded and Nixon did win, changing forever the face of American politics—with the shadow of treason permanently embedded in its DNA.

The treason came in 1968 as the Vietnam War reached a critical turning point. President Lyndon Johnson was desperate for a truce between North and South Vietnam.

LBJ had an ulterior motive: his Vice President, Hubert Humphrey, was in a tight presidential race against Richard Nixon. With demonstrators in the streets, Humphrey desperately needed a cease-fire to get him into the White House.

Johnson had it all but wrapped it. With a combination of gentle and iron-fisted persuasion, he forced the leaders of South Vietnam into an all-but-final agreement with the North. A cease-fire was imminent, and Humphrey’s election seemed assured.

But at the last minute, the South Vietnamese pulled out. LBJ suspected Nixon had intervened to stop them from signing a peace treaty.

In the Price of Power (1983), Seymour Hersh revealed Henry Kissinger—then Johnson’s adviser on Vietnam peace talks—secretly alerted Nixon’s staff that a truce was imminent.

According to Hersh, Nixon “was able to get a series of messages to the Thieu government [of South Vietnam] making it clear that a Nixon presidency would have different views on peace negotiations.”

Johnson was livid. He even called the Republican Sena

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Friday, February 16, 2018 4:56 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. Another F Bomb by Second.

Somebody should start keeping score.

Score this one: Which is easier to believe?

A) Trump is innocent and there's a massive conspiracy involving nearly every news outlet on the planet, 17 U.S. intel agencies, countless foreign intel groups, and even a few of Trump's appointees.

OR

B) Trump is a crook.

6ixStringJack, living is a series of probability contests. Call it gambling with your life. If your choice is often the least probable, A) in this example, you're not gonna win the jackpot or even break even. Where's your jackpot, Jack? I got mine.

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Friday, February 16, 2018 5:47 PM

lol. No you don't. Nobody believes you're rich, Second.

But I've already got mine. I can work part time minimum wage for the rest of my life and I'll survive.


Maybe you're right about Trump. Too bad you brought up every stupid and meaningless little thing along the way for the last 400+ days to detract from what might actually be a huge problem. Nobody wants to listen to you or the news anymore. Only the 2-3 million CNN/MSNBC nightly viewers even give a shit. The other 300+ million people in America are more concerned with what movies are coming out this weekend.

Maybe pick your battles better next time, twerp.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 16, 2018 7:11 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol. No you don't. Nobody believes you're rich, Second.

And nobody believes you are struggling in a crap job. Oh, my mistake, they do believe your stories and do believe Trump is a crook, even if he never goes on trial for felony tax evasion.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption

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Friday, February 16, 2018 7:22 PM

Yeah. They do believe me. Who would lie about that?

It's easy to lie to everybody online and pretend your rich. Nobody believes you anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 16, 2018 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. They do believe me. Who would lie about that?

It's easy to lie to everybody online and pretend your rich. Nobody believes you anymore.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Can you believe what you wrote? Do you actually know what you wrote means?
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Too bad you brought up every stupid and meaningless little thing along the way for the last 400+ days to detract from what might actually be a huge problem. Nobody wants to listen to you or the news anymore. Only the 2-3 million CNN/MSNBC nightly viewers even give a shit. The other 300+ million people in America are more concerned with what movies are coming out this weekend.

I think you placed your finger on why only 2-3 million are doing really well (20-30 million doing okay) in the US while the rest of Americans are fat, dumb and drunk. The losers think they are smart, but struggling in an unfair world which doesn't recognize their inherent worth. Except there are a million clues available to make their lives ten time more worthy, but they remain clueless. The losers smoke, drink, over-eat, borrow at high interest rates, incompetently perform their hated jobs, won't move to a better state, beat their children, etc., etc. and it doesn't matter how many public service messages the losers see, they never get the clue and they continue to fail and it is never their fault. It's those crooked politicians' fault, the same politicians that a majority of losers voted for. I believe you when you said you voted for Trump. How is that decision working out for you? It's great for me; maybe not so much for you. I didn't vote for Trump, by the way. There were thousands of clues that Trump would be no good for the job and 6ixStringJack ignored them all because it was too much information for him, calling the clues "stupid and meaningless little things".

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Friday, February 16, 2018 8:11 PM

lol

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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