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Evidence: So where are we now(II) ?

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Friday, February 2, 2018 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence, a day before Memo Release?

We'd have evidence if lawyers would stop filing all evidence under a confidential seal, leaving GOP Congressmen perfectly free to manufacture their own fake "evidence" exonerating Trump.

All three attorneys representing Rick Gates, a former associate of President Donald Trump, abruptly dumped him Thursday, putting a mysterious spin on the investigation into Russian election meddling.

Gates and his business associate Paul Manafort were the first two people to be indicted in special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s probe into possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

On Thursday afternoon, Gates’ three lawyers — Shanlon Wu, Walter Mack and Annemarie McAvoy — informed U.S. District Judge Amy Berman that they’re no longer representing him, effective “immediately.”

The lawyers’ brief filing noted that they wished to withdraw “for reasons set forth in Exhibit 1” — which they noted had been filed under a confidential seal.

Gates, who worked on the Trump campaign, and Manafort, who served as the campaign’s manager, were slammed with a laundry list of federal charges in October.

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lawyers-ex-trump-associate-rick-gate
s-mysteriously-drop-article-1.3793675

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Friday, February 2, 2018 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Still No Evidence, a day before Memo Release?

We'd have evidence if lawyers would stop filing all evidence under a confidential seal, leaving GOP Congressmen perfectly free to manufacture their own fake "evidence" exonerating Trump.

All three attorneys representing Rick Gates, a former associate of President Donald Trump, abruptly dumped him Thursday, putting a mysterious spin on the investigation into Russian election meddling.

Gates and his business associate Paul Manafort were the first two people to be indicted in special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s probe into possible collusion between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

On Thursday afternoon, Gates’ three lawyers — Shanlon Wu, Walter Mack and Annemarie McAvoy — informed U.S. District Judge Amy Berman that they’re no longer representing him, effective “immediately.”

The lawyers’ brief filing noted that they wished to withdraw “for reasons set forth in Exhibit 1” — which they noted had been filed under a confidential seal.

Gates, who worked on the Trump campaign, and Manafort, who served as the campaign’s manager, were slammed with a laundry list of federal charges in October.

www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lawyers-ex-trump-associate-rick-gate
s-mysteriously-drop-article-1.3793675


Federal Charges - all completely unrelated to any pretense of Collusion.
Hallmark of a fishing expedition.

What did that one study find? That the average American citizen commits 3 felony violations every single day, largely unaware.

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Friday, February 2, 2018 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

What did that one study find? That the average American citizen commits 3 felony violations every single day, largely unaware.

Show me that study you found because I'm curious if you've got a real study or if this is only Rush Limbaugh plus Alex Jones giving you a blowjob and you are in ecstasy. www.infowars.com

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, February 2, 2018 11:48 PM

What I heard on NPR was the concept that maybe Mueller's investigation won't uncover anything "illegal" on Trump's part, but that Trump's behavior might represent a "political" problem.

Well. Mueller was handed a bag of shit to investigate. He's doing the best he can to make the rumors/ allegations into something significant, but in reality there's no "there" there, so he's poking his nose into anything he can find. If the worst he can find is Trump being "politically incorrect" ... well, that's not an indictable offense. Demonstrating "collusion" or anything like it is an impossibility. Probably same with "obstruction of justice".

What the NPR reporting sounds like to me is back-peddling/ goalpost moving/ reduction in expectations.


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Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:44 AM

With the release of The Nunes Memo, we see this entire pretense of a justified "investigation" is a complete sham.

The collapse of any justification for the Page FISA Warrant renders it as fruit of the poisoned tree. And all that came from that. AKA the whole "investigation" into Fake Stories clamoring about collusion. Even the casual watcher of TV crime/court/cop shows can follow that.

Small wonder they have not found any evidence, despite gobs of money and man-hours spent chasing their phantom delusions.


How long before Mueller performs Justice and ends the charade?

And then Trump can pardon those who were caught up.

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Saturday, February 3, 2018 12:57 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What did that one study find? That the average American citizen commits 3 felony violations every single day, largely unaware.

Show me that study you found because I'm curious if you've got a real study or if this is only Rush Limbaugh plus Alex Jones giving you a blowjob and you are in ecstasy. www.infowars.com


Try reading the book "Three Felonies a Day" by Harvey Silverglate, from 2009.
Read it and get back to us with the answer. As I recall, Harvey gives entertaining interviews.

I believe that "decriminalize the common man" is the call.

I don't know from Alex Jones, and am not sure if Rush covered it. But since Rush is the purveyor of facts and truth, I wouldn't be surprised if he did cover it, like 8 or 9 years ago. At that time I was in a radio market devoid of such illumination, so would not have heard him.

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Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:07 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What I heard on NPR was the concept that maybe Mueller's investigation won't uncover anything "illegal" on Trump's part, but that Trump's behavior might represent a "political" problem.

Well. Mueller was handed a bag of shit to investigate. He's doing the best he can to make the rumors/ allegations into something significant, but in reality there's no "there" there, so he's poking his nose into anything he can find. If the worst he can find is Trump being "politically incorrect" ... well, that's not an indictable offense. Demonstrating "collusion" or anything like it is an impossibility. Probably same with "obstruction of justice".

What the NPR reporting sounds like to me is back-peddling/ goalpost moving/ reduction in expectations.

I was thinking Malicious Persecution was a crime. Throw Mueller in prison. Along with Hilliary, McCabe, Comey.

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Saturday, February 3, 2018 1:12 AM

The FBI needs to be investigated for its deliberately shoddy "investigation" of the Hillary server, where they violated literally every investigative procedure.

The FBI also needs to be investigated for its biased FISA warrant affidavit.

There should be at least one Special Prosecutor if not two, handling these investigations.

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America is an oligarchy
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Saturday, February 3, 2018 2:08 AM

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
What did that one study find? That the average American citizen commits 3 felony violations every single day, largely unaware.

Show me that study you found because I'm curious if you've got a real study or if this is only Rush Limbaugh plus Alex Jones giving you a blowjob and you are in ecstasy. www.infowars.com


Try reading the book "Three Felonies a Day" by Harvey Silverglate, from 2009.
Read it and get back to us with the answer. As I recall, Harvey gives entertaining interviews.

I believe that "decriminalize the common man" is the call.

I don't know from Alex Jones, and am not sure if Rush covered it. But since Rush is the purveyor of facts and truth, I wouldn't be surprised if he did cover it, like 8 or 9 years ago. At that time I was in a radio market devoid of such illumination, so would not have heard him.

I got the book at https://thepiratebay.org/search/Harvey%20Silverglate/0/99/0
JewelStaiteFan, you jumped to a weird ass conclusion based only on the title of the book.

Page 255-256 The statutes enacted by the Congress were not sufficiently all-encompassing and onerous for the taste of federal prosecutors. So they have proceeded to do precisely what former Attorney General Robert Jackson, in 1940, warned his U.S. attorneys against: “pick people that he thinks he should get” and “then search the law books…to pin some offense on him.

The book is simply pointing to prosecutors that needed their dumb asses fired, exactly the same as cops who stop cars based on a hunch, kill the driver, then drop a throw-down gun to make the innocent look guilty. The book "Three Felonies a Day" is NOT ABOUT EVERYBODY committing 3 hypothetical felonies a day.

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Saturday, February 3, 2018 3:52 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Still No Evidence, a day before Memo Release?



We'd have evidence if lawyers would stop filing all evidence under a confidential seal, leaving GOP Congressmen perfectly free to manufacture their own fake "evidence" exonerating Trump.




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