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You continue to demonstrate your fascism, along with the fact that you personify the "low information voter" type who are ignorant and uneducated, and fall for Trump's carnival barking.- RF
REAVER - there are no more Nazis. Hitler isn't telling them what to do (unless they're following the voices in their head). There are, however, NEO-Nazis. I'm sure you think that's splitting hairs, but the reality is that people who are NEO-Nazis are interpreting Nazi ideology differently than the original Nazis, because the circumstances are different. For example, there is no hyper-inflation (yet), our economy hasn't collapsed to nothing (yet); we aren't paying war reparations; there is no Communist or Socialist party struggling for the soul of the workers; and there isn't the possibility of an entire nation rising up to adopt the Nazi philosophy, which was as much of an economic program as it was a racial/ ethnic one. (BTW "Nazi" - "national socialism").
On a different point, do you have a comment on being accused of potentially making terrorist threats (above)? Yanno, this is an anonymous site, and probably nobody is going to report you, but I sure hope your FB page isn't more of the same!
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
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THE RIGHT WING
Trump and Terrorism: Why Is the White House Ignoring the Real Danger of Homegrown Extremism?
Ask the FBI—the biggest danger comes from white supremacists, "sovereign citizens" and other homegrown nuts.
http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/trump-and-terrorism-why-white-house
-ignoring-real-danger-homegrown-extremism?akid=15195.1144919._KgL6L&rd=1&src=newsletter1072022&t=22
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Quote:Let's see.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
You continue to demonstrate your fascism, along with the fact that you personify the "low information voter" type who are ignorant and uneducated, and fall for Trump's carnival barking.- RF
REAVER - there are no more Nazis. Hitler isn't telling them what to do (unless they're following the voices in their head). There are, however, NEO-Nazis. I'm sure you think that's splitting hairs, but the reality is that people who are NEO-Nazis are interpreting Nazi ideology differently than the original Nazis, because the circumstances are different. For example, there is no hyper-inflation (yet), our economy hasn't collapsed to nothing (yet); we aren't paying war reparations; there is no Communist or Socialist party struggling for the soul of the workers; and there isn't the possibility of an entire nation rising up to adopt the Nazi philosophy, which was as much of an economic program as it was a racial/ ethnic one. (BTW "Nazi" - "national socialism").
On a different point, do you have a comment on being accused of potentially making terrorist threats (above)? Yanno, this is an anonymous site, and probably nobody is going to report you, but I sure hope your FB page isn't more of the same!
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
035581#1035581
You walk around with swastikas and Nazi flags, doing Nazi salutes, spewing hate and racism, but you're not a Nazi because the only Nazis were from WWII.
Riiiight...
Nazi is just short for neo-Nazi, or do you deny they exist, too?
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You walk around with swastikas and Nazi flags, doing Nazi salutes, spewing hate and racism, but you're not a Nazi because the only Nazis were from WWII. - REAVERFAN
I said they were NEO-Nazis. Just like NEO-liberals aren't liberals. You DID learn to read with comprehension, right?
The original Nazis were responding to an economic crisis: hyperinflation under the Weimar Republic, massive unemployment, starvation in the streets. I'm sure you've heard of the story where a man took out his life savings, went to a deli to buy a cup of coffee with it, and then shot himself? Hubby used to work for an ethnic Hungarian who was a young boy during that time - that man recalled his family boiling and eating shoe leather to stay alive. That's one of the reasons why the Nazi (National Socialism) message found such fertile ground: many people bought into the economic message first.
The current NEO-Nazis don't have any similar economic program of nationalized industries, a new currency, and nationalized banks. They don't have to appeal to people who are getting a different set of promises from Communists and Socialists, so THEIR message is primarily racial.
I wouldn't be so quick to call ANYone a "low information" voter, if I were you.
By the way .... how do you feel about having potentially made criminal terrorist threats?
The law is funny in that regard - it cuts both ways.
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Let's see.
You walk around with swastikas and Nazi flags, doing Nazi salutes, spewing hate and racism, but you're not a Nazi because the only Nazis were from WWII.
Riiiight...
Nazi is just short for neo-Nazi, or do you deny they exist, too?
I call them clowns, just like you antifa idiots.
When they (or you) escalate to violence, I call them (or you) threats to society.
When they (or you) further escalate to murder, I call them (or you) criminal scum that should be locked away or put to death.
You're a mirror image of these people. There is some subtle differences, but on the whole there isn't any real difference between these asshats you're calling Nazis and you antifa jokers.
You're both just a couple of rag-tag hate groups and I for one can't wait until you all just go away.
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Quote:Yep, I know.... everyone is stupider than you.
I know I write a lot about people and how stupid they are, but if you add JSF's, and Rappy's, and 6ix's IQ's all up together...you'd get 3.
I have never been more convinced of the stupidity of this country than I am right now. The three of you have made me a true believer.
Holy Hell. On Earth.- WISHY
Feel better now?
You haven't answered this question, I think it got buried in the shuffle:
Quote:I'd really like to know what you meant.
Control over our future?
So .... what's the problem? - SIGNY
You just answered your own question.- WISHY
I have absolutely no idea what you mean. Please explain. - SIGNY
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By the way, GSTRING, I predicted your response PERFECTLY
* ... and then you'll say I'm "too wordy". And then you will - as always- refuse to address the pertinent points, and respond with even more lies and even more bullshit personal attacks.*
And voila! Here it is http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61835&mid=1
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KKK Celebrates Heather Heyer’s Murder, Promises More Violence
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2017/08/kkk-ce
lebrates-heather-heyers-murder-promises-violence/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=BRSS&utm_campaign=Nonreligious&utm_content=367
"Nothing makes us more proud at the KKK than we see white patriots such as James Fields Jr, age 20, taking his car and running over nine communist anti-fascist, killing one [expletive]-lover named Heather Heyer. James Fields hail victory. It’s men like you that have made the great white race strong and will be strong again."
This is who you're supporting and defending, Nazi boy. How are you NOT a complete piece of shit?
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I've never once supported or defended any of that.
Show me what you're talking about, or fuck off clown.
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Trump launched a defense of the Robert E. Lee statue that compared Lee and Jefferson Davis, president of the Confederate States, to Washington and Jefferson.
But there is something wrong with Trump's argument: We celebrate the good things the founders did. Confederates didn’t do anything good.
As part of Tuesday afternoon’s bizarre remarks on the white supremacist demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia, President Donald Trump suggested that removing monuments to Confederate military and political leaders could put the United States on a slippery slope.
“Was George Washington a slave owner?” he asked, rhetorically. “So will George Washington now lose his status ... are we going to take down statues to George Washington? How about Thomas Jefferson?”
Tucker Carlson sought to further muddy the waters on his Fox News show Tuesday night, by observing that figures such as Plato and Mohammed also owned slaves.
These arguments aren’t exactly offered in good faith. But even then, they reflect a profound misunderstanding of the nature of the Confederacy as a project — and of the difference between commemorating its leaders compared to America’s Founding Fathers.
Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and the other politicians and generals who served the Confederate States of America aren’t noteworthy historical figures who also happened to benefit from the institution of slavery. They are historical figures who are noteworthy almost exclusively because they led an insurrection against the United States of America, an insurrection whose primary purpose was to perpetuate slavery.
Owning human chattel — and offering intellectual and political defenses of the institution of American slavery — is an important and dishonorable part of Thomas Jefferson’s legacy. But it’s the entirety of Davis’s legacy.
We celebrate the good things about the founders
Historiographical arguments about the relative merits of the different Founding Fathers are a staple of American intellectual life, playing out in scholarly works and popular histories and even Broadway musicals. The reputations of individual founders wax and wane over time. Jefferson’s reputation is currently in something of a slump, thanks to revelations about Sally Hemings and “Cabinet Battle No. 1.”
Still, Jefferson’s contributions remain largely celebrated today. That’s in keeping with another staple of American life: The big-picture point of the pantheon of American founders is to celebrate the good things about them.
Jefferson is in the pantheon because he wrote the Declaration of Independence and because of his wartime diplomatic service. Alexander Hamilton is in the pantheon because he wrote the Federalist Papers and laid the foundations of the American political economy. Washington is in the pantheon because he was the military leader of the successful war of independence and because he established the peaceful transfer of power from president to president.
It’s true that the real historical figures at work were more complicated than the storybook heroes conventionally presented to young children. But the storybook hero version of Washington makes sense because Washington really did participate in great acts worth celebrating, even if he also did terrible things like own human beings as personal property or sleazy things like pick the location for the nation’s capital to maximize the value of his own landholdings.
Confederate leaders, by contrast, are being celebrated purely for doing something bad.
There are no good parts to the Confederacy.
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/16/16154738/lee-davis-washingto
n-jefferson
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Hey! Check it out! It's the blubbering Nazi!
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/im-terrified-neo-nazi-blubbers-like-a-
baby-in-video-reporting-hes-wanted-for-arrest-in-charlottesville/
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