Gender and Violence and Blame
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Byte, the '6 men' story was the story of the Indian rape victim who just died. She and her boyfriend were on a bus when 6 men beat and raped her (on the bus), beat her boyfriend severely, stripped them both, then threw them off the bus onto the street, presumably to die, or ... whatever. It seemed to be of no consequence to those men if either lived or died.
I honestly can understand a man - especially a young man full of testosterone - being significantly driven by sexual urges. I can see one being at the point where he really truly would have a difficult time stopping. However, the line is one of whether or not it's consensual or not. Apparently, a lot of young males think it not being consensual is OK, as long as they feel sufficient urges.
http://articles.latimes.com/1985-11-17/local/me-7004_1_young-women
A survey of 245 female and 194 male students at Washington State University found "an alarming minority of students"--5% of women and 19% of men--do not believe that forcible rape on dates is definitely rape or that the male's behavior is definitely unacceptable, psychologist Gloria Fischer said.
They were students who believed that forcing a date to have sex might be acceptable under any one of nine circumstances, including if the man spent a lot of money on the woman, if she led him on, if she had sex with other men, if she was intoxicated or if she excited him, Fischer said.
http://www.saidit.org/archives/june00/oneway.html
In a survey of high school students, 56% of the girls and 76% of the boys believed forced sex was acceptable under some circumstances.
A survey of 11-to-14 year-olds found:
* 51% of the boys and 41% of the girls said forced sex was acceptable if the boy, “spent a lot of money” on the girl;
* 31% of the boys and 32% of the girls said it was acceptable for a man to rape a woman with past sexual experience;
* 87% of boys and 79% of girls said sexual assault was acceptable if the man and the woman were married;
* 65% of the boys and 47% of the girls said it was acceptable for a boy to rape a girl if they had been dating for more than six months.
In a survey of male college students:
* 35% anonymously admitted that, under certain circumstances, they would commit rape if they believed they could get away with it.
* One in 12 admitted to committing acts that met the legal definitions of rape, and 84% of men who committed rape did not label it as rape.
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You are simply clueless on the subject of rape.
Hello,
Well if so, thank God. And I don't think only rape victims are entitled to opinions.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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1kiki: Ah, I'm sorry. I only knew the story from India about the one woman who was leaving a bar and was attacked. It appears there are multiple stories going on out there.
I suppose I thought it was the woman leaving the bar who had died at the hospital.
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I'm sorry Anthony.
Hello,
I was able to escape the worst of it, Byte.
There are people who weren't. And there are people who weren't over and over and over again. Once you've been in that kind of situation, it's like you have a sense for others who've been there. You find them and if you're lucky you can talk to them and share and help each other move forward.
I disagree with some commentators here that rape is a fate worse than death. I agree it can feel that way at the time and for a long time after. People can survive it and make themselves feel whole again, but it's like recovering from any serious injury requiring difficult rehabilitation.
The hard things to understand are that it's not your fault, you still have value, you aren't powerless, and it's okay to trust people again. If you can get those things back as a part of yourself, you can live a happy and fulfilling life. Easier said than done.
In my experience.
--Anthony
Note to Self:
Raptor - woman testifying about birth control is a slut (the term applies.)
Context: http://tinyurl.com/d6ozfej
Six - Wow, isn't Niki quite the CUNT? And, yes, I spell that in all caps....
http://tinyurl.com/bdjgbpe
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Context: http://tinyurl.com/afve3r9
“The stupid neither forgive nor forget; the naive forgive and forget; the wise forgive but do not forget.” -T. S. Szasz
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I'm still sorry Anthony. :(
Even just saying that I'm glad you're doing better feels like such a cop out in the face of that. I'm so sorry.
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Quote:Neither do I. There's a lot of room for opinion before you get to the pornographic nonsense about inserts and "organic rape."
Originally posted by AnthonyT:Quote:
You are simply clueless on the subject of rape.
Hello,
Well if so, thank God. And I don't think only rape victims are entitled to opinions.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Hey seriously - you are all valuable people here. It hurts to see one so hurt and angry, especially when we're all doing our best to discuss a difficult topic through a very imperfect medium. I know we can't say too many nice things to you or about you Byte b/c it sets your radar off, but my wish for you is you become calm and relaxed soon. OK?
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Originally posted by HKCavalier:Quote:Neither do I. There's a lot of room for opinion before you get to the pornographic nonsense about inserts and "organic rape."
Originally posted by AnthonyT:Quote:
You are simply clueless on the subject of rape.
Hello,
Well if so, thank God. And I don't think only rape victims are entitled to opinions.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Do I stroke myself in the mirror with my fear HK? That kind of pornographic?
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HKC - this seems to be a very important topic for you. I'm on and off the board really erratically so I may have missed something most already know. And I really am not looking for an explanation for things I'm clueless about. I just want to say I think your voice is a valuable one that I really want to hear. That's all.
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Quote:Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, Byte. Was kinda the point.
Originally posted by BYTEMITE:Quote:
People, please, don't talk about rape as if you know what the heck you're talking about unless you know what the heck you're talking about. It's insulting to those of us who have actually lived through the experience.
FUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUU
I'm not talking down to you. You yourself admit to talking about stuff you don't know anything about sometimes. This is just one of those times. AND it's a subject that some folks are better informed on than you are. And, as Anthony pointed out, that's actually good news.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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