Iranian mother of two to be stoned to death
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UPDATED: Monday, August 10, 2026 16:30
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Originally posted by kaneman:
I'm not sure how I feel about this. For the sanctity of marriage maybe all adulterers should be stoned. Think about it if you knew you were going to get rocks for getting your rocks off. What would you do? It is all about keeping the family intact...It's all about the children.
It's not a bad argument that I can see, but in the case of a divorce where there are children, would that also count as adultery? Or would divorce be also unacceptable, unless the divorce is for the safety of the children (like one of the parents is a child abuser or something)?
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Okay, so it's degenerated into bullshit, but BEFORE that...some interesting comments. I don't know about the veracity of the story, but checking on line I foundQuote:
(UK Guardian)
Louise Arbour, condemned the stoning last Thursday of Jafar Kiani in a village 130 miles north-west of Tehran.
The punishment was an apparent snub to judiciary chief, Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi, who ordered the suspension of the stoning verdicts against Mr Kiani and his partner, Mokarameh Ebrahimi, last month following protests from Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.
Stoning sentences - the standard punishment for adultery under Iran's Islamic law - have rarely been implemented since Mr Shahroudi ordered a moratorium in 2002. But Mr Jamshidi suggested Mr Kiani's sentence had been upheld on the order of higher authorities to send a signal to the west. "We are not obeying pressure from human rights groups. We are obeying religious regulations and our own laws," he said.
There's a video of a stoning at http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm I didn't watch.Quote:
http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7011676032#ixzz0svUhkTHo
Nine criminals will soon face execution by stoning. Eight of the nine people, age from 27 to 43, are women. They were convicted of adultery, prostitution and incest.
The only man, a 50-year-old music professor, was convicted for having sex with a student.
In accordance with the Iranian law, men who are convicted of adultery will be buried up to the waist, while women will be buried up to their chest for stoning.
Iranian judiciary chief Ayatollah Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi ordered a moratorium on stoning in 2002, since then, three persons have been executed.Quote:
BBC
Iran has fiercely denied that it executes juvenile criminals or stones people to death.
"In the Islamic republic, we do not see such things being carried out," said judiciary spokesman Jamal Karimirad.
The UN General Assembly recently censured Iran for "continuing violations of human rights".
It condemned the country's record on torture, public executions, floggings and discrimination against women.
Iran said the sentence was deferred for consideration by the pardons commission.
But there have been recent executions of people under the age of 18. Iranian law specifies exactly how stoning should be carried out, saying stones must be small enough not to kill instantly.
But Mr Karimirad said that even if such sentences were passed by lower courts, they were overruled by higher courts and "no such verdicts have been carried out".Quote:
Wikinews
Like many other Islamic countries, Iran enforces the religious sharia law, which allows for the execution of children, including girls aged nine or older and boys 15 and older.
I tried to avoid obvious sites which from human-rights organizations or which were obviously anti-Iran in particular, and there's tons pro and con, both explaining, denying and accusing, on the net.
I certainly don't think invasion of Iran “is of course the point of the story”, or that “such stories were part of the rationale used to obtain support for what is now the current US policy towards those two nations.” If that were true, there wouldn’t be, in my opinion, so many different reports of various human-rights violations from so many different parts of the world; plus I don’t see such things being covered by the MSM, which surely would be part of the “plan”.
I can tell you that when we were in Afghanistan, cutting off of hands and feet and stoning for adultery were common place and part of the law. Cultures differ, and what we consider impossible in a “civilized” nation might be considered differently in other places, many of which don’t consider US “civilized”.
It's possible the verdicts weren't carried out and the reports of the verdicts left that out--by the way, the woman in the initial report had her sentence lifted after she repented of her crime and begged for mercy. Certainly u
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
My first guess would be that there are probably people in that corner of the govt. who would love to see us invade, which is of course the point of the story.
I think that's an interesting observation. Your take is more along the gov conspiracy vein though, where I would put it all on the news media and the way news is being distributed more and more via the web. Not unlike PN you need those punchy, catchy headlines even more than ever, to get people to click. "Stoning" and "Iran" has to have huge pull in the US, people thrive on being outraged - what better than being outraged by an "enemy" we're already outraged with? And a story that shows them as primitive, lesser humans? The clicks that must have generated, the ad revenue for banner placements, the Toyotas that story sold... thank you Iran!
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Per the linked video of stoning in Iran, I watched, up to a point.
The video was shot in 1994.
The accused was wrapped in a white sheet,covering his entire body, placed in a pre dug hole, which was then filled in w/ dirt, roughly to the man's waist.
That was about all I needed to watch.
It was noted in the video that there's a proper size for stones to be thrown.
Pebbles are too small, and rocks which may result in death in the 1st or 2nd throw are too big.
Apparently it doesn't matter if you're Randy Johnson or Nolan Ryan, as long as the size of the rock you through is " just right" .
Any doubt that this is a culture stuck in the medieval period of human history, and that the idea of these folks having a nuclear weapon is a really BAD one, just isn't thinking straight.
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AURAptor, I can understand your initial impression, but you need to read what other people posted.
First, apparently this was a judge coming from a Sunni subgroup in NW Iran intent on making a "statement" against Western intervention in their laws.
Secondly, it really ticked off the Shiite religious leaders who are the real people in charge of the Iranian government, who supposedly banned stonings in 2002. The girl has not and won't be stoned because they intervened.
You might be able to make some case that stonings and punishment amputations and floggings and other deadly examples of corporeal punishment happen all the time in remote, lawless areas of the Middle East, and they probably do, and you could probably safely call them backwards, archaic, and medieval. Unfortunately, these are not the folks who are on the brink of nuclear technology, otherwise the "threat" would be a laughable one.
You can't be nuclear proficient and medieval at the same time.
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That they're in the same country where nukes are being made.... that's enough to concern me.
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I would tend to disagree with that one.
You can't be nuclear proficient and medieval at the same time
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So THAT'S why Excalibur was such a big deal.
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Oh c'mon now.
We act as if stoning a woman for being mouthy is a bad thing.
Its only because we pretend to be civilized that it is.
Back in the day, a woman arguing with a man and constantly berating him would either A. Rob the family of food. or B. Make the entire family look weak (which would then be robbed of food.)
Truth of the matter is: Women, shut your mouth. Yeah, you might have a point in your bitching, but wait till you are at home. This is real life, and your mouth doesnt help.
As Mal would say: "You want to tear me down, do it away from the crew."
I agree that women have good points now and again, and that they should be heard. But to do it in public? Sheesh.
And that folks, is my mysoginistic word of the day.
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